Rumor: All Purpose Trade Proposals, Speculation and Rumours - 2023/24

[snowkiddin]

Denton Mateychuk from Columbus. He was drafted two ahead of Rutger and has also been developing really well.

Mathew Savoie is another one who might be available due to Buffalo being weak at LW amd strong at C and RW.

I am personally hoping for McDavid or Bedard, but either of those two will do.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

Denton Mateychuk from Columbus. He was drafted two ahead of Rutger and has also been developing really well.

Mathew Savoie is another one who might be available due to Buffalo being weak at LW amd strong at C and RW.

I'd be happy with either - assuming CBJ or Buffalo is willing. I have my doubts they would be

I am personally hoping for McDavid or Bedard, but either of those two will do.

Re: McDavid - just what we needed, a player who can't win a cup

 

[Jetabre]

What's the hold up Chevy, just swap him for Matekychuk or Jiricek in Columbus and be done with it.

 

[Daximus]

I'd even make an addition to get one of those guys right now. Lets just wrap this up and get on with the rest of the show.

 

[snowkiddin]

I'd even make an addition to get one of those guys right now. Lets just wrap this up and get on with the rest of the show.

You’re talking about McDavid or Bedard, right?

 

[Daximus]

You’re talking about McDavid or Bedard, right?

No, obviously trading for a time machine to go back in time and kidnap Gretzky.

 

[snowkiddin]

No, obviously trading for a time machine to go back in time and kidnap Gretzky.

Kidnap “One Eyed” Frank McGee while you’re at it. 71 goals in 23 career games, numbers Gretzky could only dream of.

 

[voyageur]

Things are starting to look grim on that front. Chevy seems content on running it back despite us getting caved. Hard to make fun of Toronto when we seem to have the same humiliation fetish.

I think if Chevy stands pat all you can hope for is growth seasons from young players and the UFA crop either plays for good contracts or their contracts become some much needed draft capital.

It's hard to gauge the Central until the free agency period starts. Chevy still has the Mc Groarty chip to play, which could net an interesting return.

 

[WolfHouse]

Wonder what the holdup is.

Montreal wanted Dubois thrown in; wild tried to add Hartman

 

[tbcwpg]

You can't run a successful organization scared.

Nope but it seems like, from the outside, that is where we are right now.

Winning games sells. Unfortunately for anyone who is hoping for a step back type of gameplan, last season when fans only started to show up when they were playing meaningful games and having the Commissioner have to do a press conference relating to "attendance concerns", teams of kids that try hard but lose don't sell, and if you want a San Jose style "We're bad for a few years because we don't even have any kids to play yet" rebuild, that REALLY doesn't sell. And as smaller markets in this league have shown, once you get the perennial loser label it's hard to shake that.

 

[Duke749]

I’ve maintained since the end of our season, that we need to make a youth movement. As in, bring up some guys that are clearly ready and let them have their growing pains. I’m not talking rebuild or anything. I’m talking bring in the young guys now so we can eventually transition from the older core. There’s no need to rebuild or reload. And we’re at a good point with some good talent that this is a great time to do so. Perfetti and Heinola leading the way. We’re not repeating 110 point season. Bring in some youth, make the playoffs, and go from there. We have little to lose and a lot to gain. Low risk, high reward.

 

[HellebuyckOurSaviour]

You think we could snag Stamkos at say 2yr $6.8m per season? Have him as our 2nd line center, so Perfetti can have 2 superstars guide him to becoming a true #1 or #2 center.

 

[10Ducky10]

You think we could snag Stamkos at say 2yr $6.8m per season? Have him as our 2nd line center, so Perfetti can have 2 superstars guide him to becoming a true #1 or #2 center.

No

 

[HellebuyckOurSaviour]

No

No, as in you just don't want him, or we can't afford him, or he might be on the decline?

 

[10Ducky10]

No, as in you just don't want him, or we can't afford him, or he might be on the decline?

No, he won't sign here.

 

[HellebuyckOurSaviour]

No, he won't sign here.

Ohhh ok, I just didn't know which way you were leaning towards. Would be amazing if we somehow could get him over here.

 

[GJF]

I'd be completely shocked If Stamkos would be interested in signing here. Not after playing his whole career in Tampa having won 2 cups.

 

[Daximus]

I'd be completely shocked If Stamkos would be interested in signing here. Not after playing his whole career in Tampa having won 2 cups.

I'd be extremely shocked if Stammer doesn't sign in Tampa. If you have seen him and Hedmans setup... its like why even leave?

 

[ps241]

Winning games sells. Unfortunately for anyone who is hoping for a step back type of gameplan, last season when fans only started to show up when they were playing meaningful games and having the Commissioner have to do a press conference relating to "attendance concerns", teams of kids that try hard but lose don't sell, and if you want a San Jose style "We're bad for a few years because we don't even have any kids to play yet" rebuild, that REALLY doesn't sell. And as smaller markets in this league have shown, once you get the perennial loser label it's hard to shake that.

Its tough. Mark C will not endorse any form of step back and I do understand that. I agree winning hockey does sell when it comes to in season game to game. We have been a reasonably effective regular season team lately. On the flip side one of the most sales damaging aspects of this team and organization is how inept we are in the playoffs. We are basically what the Minnesota Wild were for a decade or more. Respectable team that is good enough to make the playoffs most seasons but always first round cannon fodder. That level doesn’t help sell season ticket packages.

We can and will continue to compete for the playoffs while tinkering for the next 3 or 4 seasons but it’s not a pathway to a cup with this core in this era IMO.

With where this core is at I think what the org will have to count on is luck. We need one bad season where we get very lucky and hit on a franchise altering draft pick. Colorado and Cale Makar comes to mind as an example. Not a full bottom out just one unintentionally bad season and a great pick. Teams do have off seasons so fingers crossed on luck coming out of that if it happens.

This core badly needs the injection of a young superstar and that won’t happen through free agency or by design.

Its a bit of a Catch 22

 

[Daximus]

Its tough. Mark C will not endorse any form of step back and I do understand that. I agree winning hockey does sell when it comes to in season game to game. We have been a reasonably effective regular season team lately. On the flip side one of the most sales damaging aspects of this team and organization is how inept we are in the playoffs. We are basically what the Minnesota Wild were for a decade or more. Respectable team that is good enough to make the playoffs most seasons but always first round cannon fodder. That level doesn’t help sell season ticket packages.

We can and will continue to compete for the playoffs while tinkering for the next 3 or 4 seasons but it’s not a pathway to a cup with this core in this era IMO.

With where this core is at I think what the org will have to count on is luck. We need one bad season where we get very lucky and hit on a franchise altering draft pick. Colorado and Cale Makar comes to mind as an example. Not a full bottom out just one unintentionally bad season and a great pick. Teams do have off seasons so fingers crossed on luck coming out of that if it happens.

This core badly needs the injection of a young superstar and that won’t happen through free agency or by design.

Its a bit of a Catch 22

You nailed it. We either need a unintentionally bad season or a complete stroke of luck getting someone great in the draft. Sometimes both helps.

Tampa hit on both being bad enough to draft Drouin which turned into Sergachev and hitting on Kucherov, Vasi and Point.

The trouble is even if we hit on some guys soon they are still likely 2-3 years out before they can step in and likely another 2-3 years before they became major contributors.

 

[snowkiddin]

You nailed it. We either need a unintentionally bad season or a complete stroke of luck getting someone great in the draft. Sometimes both helps.

Tampa hit on both being bad enough to draft Drouin which turned into Sergachev and hitting on Kucherov, Vasi and Point.

The trouble is even if we hit on some guys soon they are still likely 2-3 years out before they can step in and likely another 2-3 years before they became major contributors.

And then 2-3 years before leaving in free agency or asking to be traded …

 

[Daximus]

And then 2-3 years before leaving in free agency or asking to be traded …

We can cross that bridge when we get there.

 

[Weezeric]

You nailed it. We either need a unintentionally bad season or a complete stroke of luck getting someone great in the draft. Sometimes both helps.

Tampa hit on both being bad enough to draft Drouin which turned into Sergachev and hitting on Kucherov, Vasi and Point.

The trouble is even if we hit on some guys soon they are still likely 2-3 years out before they can step in and likely another 2-3 years before they became major contributors.

It would be equivalent to Lambert and Chibrikov becoming Point and Kucherov. I’m not sure you can count on that happening too often.

 

[Daximus]

It would be equivalent to Lambert and Chibrikov becoming Point and Kucherov. I’m not sure you can count on that happening too often.

No but even if they just become top 6 NHLers I think we aren't looking to bad,

 

[gojetsgo]

today is the last day to place players on waivers for a buyout at 11 am, the next window would open up if a player elects arbitration