All-Purpose Prospect Thread v17.0

[Kurtosis]

Man that is a relief to hear.

 

[Putt Pirate]

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[CallMeShaft]

It is behind a paywall. What is the synopsis if you don;t mind? Hearing not bad perhaps.

There's a quote from the article in my previous post.

Basically, Lardis isn't saying what exactly it is, but he did see multiple medical professionals and was told it didn't require surgery, just a few weeks rest and some rehabbing. He should be good by next season, especially because he's got a long off-season to recover and get back into game shape.

 

[Putt Pirate]

There's a quote from the article in my previous post.

Basically, Lardis isn't saying what exactly it is, but he did see multiple medical professionals and was told it didn't require surgery, just a few weeks rest and some rehabbing. He should be good by next season, especially because he's got a long off-season to recover and get back into game shape.

Great news!!!! Looking forward to training camp already.....

 

[Kevin Musto]

thank the hockey gods

 

[Hattrick Kane]

So he probably sprained one of his ligaments (MCL, ACL). And as most everyone knows, sprains hurt like an absolute bitch still, but glad surgery isn’t required.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Kitchener got swept, so no more Hawk prospects in the CHL Playoffs

 

[Hawkaholic]

Kitchener got swept, so no more Hawk prospects in the CHL Playoffs

London is insane. Did it without their captain and arguably best player too. (Although he played most of Game 1)

 

[hawksfan50]

Yup London is insanely deep in experienced talent this year...Yet Oshawa with their own starvpkayers beat then I Game 1 s of thecOHL Final series...IN LONDON in front of the Jnights' big crowd.

TSN here inCanada is showing g games from the OHL,WHK and QNJHL Championship Finals..

Saw the Knights lose last night to Oshawa in a close game... and saw the
Medicine Hat win4-1over Spikane in Game 1 of their WHL Final series...

Get to see Drsnoyers and Monctin pkay Rinouski today...then Gane 2 of London vs Oshawa..

So saw McKenna get 2a lsst night..but hecwas not that impressive...His 2nd assistwas on an en goal ...he wss NOT the bestnpkayer on the ice this game...BTW...CaydebKibdstrim pkayed his first game for MedicibecHat in over a year...and MH also got Basha back(out since late Decenber)..Basa had a goal for them..butcdespute tfe 4-1win NH did not dominate the game...grossly out-shot.

To me the play this gane looked slow and junior amaturish vs the hoih level fast and physical game I sW Londonand Oshawa play .

Put it this way.. of McKemna can't be that brilliant or outstanding maybe hebisvover-rated rated for 2026?

Sure could have had an "off" game..but was honestly not blown away by hom THIS game ...nice to get 2a on an "off" performance game where he did not stand out.

 

[hawksfan50]

Then there was Game 3 kast night on the WHL Finals .series tied 1-1 after 2GP in Medicine Hat ...first of 3 straight games in Spokane...

Medicine Hat dominated and won 6-0 WITHOUT GAVIN MCKENNA IN THE LINEUP!

Only revealed he was UNABLE TO PLAY...so do not know if sick or an injury cause

However ...if tge deep and talented MH squad coukd do this without him,makes you question of he reakky is as goidcas his hype or bebefitsxfrom anotgervobevoftgese privileged situations where tge team he pjayscon is so good that he has a lotvof talent surrounding him.

Again this is tge chicken and egg question...Do es pkaying on top level or hogher stNdibgs teans enhance one's stats or not..

If so you ought to Discount high stats from such pkayers to sone degree..but need to project augmented stats for players on teams low in the standings if instead they played for a top level or much higher standibgs finish team.


You put Misa Martone Desnoyers on a poir team 7thbot 8th in their Conference instead of 4-78 spots higher in te Conference and maybe they do not rank as high...You put Brady Martin into a better situation with a #1to a #6 team in their league and you get higher stats from homand he shoots up to easily top 3 consideration.

It is this Rekative weighting to account for good teM vs. Bad team surrounding a pklyer that Never seems to get considered by the people out
Scouting lists..

I do not know how to resolve this sort of unfair relative performance grading.. SITUATION...what I call Piviledged vs. Unproviledged.if

Woukd Misa get 134 poibts and be +45 if he playedin the SOO?

Woukd Martine get 98 points in57 GPf he playedvin the Soo this sesson?Woukd He still be +16 or be negative?

Woukd Desnoyers putvup 84 pints and be +54 if he pjayex inthe Soo this sesson instead of tge #1team i the Q?

How many more liibts woukd Brady Martin have if he pkayex inMoncrton instead of the Soo..
Or if he pkayex for Medicine Hat in the Dub ..

I seriously doubt McKenna gets ax54 game pibtvstreak if he had to pkay in the Soo this srsson.

So Relative Situation...Priviledgedvor Unprivikidged SHOULD be used for adjusting performance ratings.

I am not sure what weightscto use to make adjustments up or down..

But to be "fair" some accounting for Sirutation of good surrounding help vs. liitle help on a bad team needs to b incorpirated to adjust rankings properly.

I do not think rankers ever take suruational advantage or dis-advantage ibto account when assessing how good a okayerviscor for his projection to theNHL level.
You can look at each skill and grade them ...but production and +/- numbers should Not Be as influential in rankings as they always are....


You can assess better when tgey pkay peer to peer age class alk-star best on best tournaments to see which players stand out.. but for league games statsvyou need to incorporate situational privilege reality to downgrade
performance or upgrade oerformance depending on the goiod team or bad team situational circumstance.

 

[clydesdale line]

Medicine Hat dominated and won 6-0 WITHOUT GAVIN MCKENNA IN THE LINEUP!

Only revealed he was UNABLE TO PLAY...so do not know if sick or an injury cause

McKenna is injured.

 

[Fingers and Toews]

Aku Räty tekee paluun Kärppäpaitaan - Oulun Kärpät

“Signaukset hoitaa Visma Sign” Hyökkääjä Aku Räty on solminut kaksivuotisen pelaajasopimuksen Kärppien kanssa. 23-vuotias kärppäkasvatti pelasi edellisen kerran keltamustissa kaudella 2021-2022. Kaudeksi 2022-2023 Räty siirtyi Tampereen Ilvekseen. Kyseisellä kaudella hän teki henkilökohtaisen...

karpat.fi

Räty is signing with Kärpät for next season

 

[MHO]

Aku Räty tekee paluun Kärppäpaitaan - Oulun Kärpät

“Signaukset hoitaa Visma Sign” Hyökkääjä Aku Räty on solminut kaksivuotisen pelaajasopimuksen Kärppien kanssa. 23-vuotias kärppäkasvatti pelasi edellisen kerran keltamustissa kaudella 2021-2022. Kaudeksi 2022-2023 Räty siirtyi Tampereen Ilvekseen. Kyseisellä kaudella hän teki henkilökohtaisen...

karpat.fi

Räty is signing with Kärpät for next season

Wow Davidson really got hosed in that deal

 

[Mrfenn92]

Aku Räty tekee paluun Kärppäpaitaan - Oulun Kärpät

“Signaukset hoitaa Visma Sign” Hyökkääjä Aku Räty on solminut kaksivuotisen pelaajasopimuksen Kärppien kanssa. 23-vuotias kärppäkasvatti pelasi edellisen kerran keltamustissa kaudella 2021-2022. Kaudeksi 2022-2023 Räty siirtyi Tampereen Ilvekseen. Kyseisellä kaudella hän teki henkilökohtaisen...

karpat.fi

Räty is signing with Kärpät for next season

Not shocking

 

[Crow]

Wow Davidson really got hosed in that deal

What does it say?

 

[Putt Pirate]

A nothing burger to me.

 

[BHawks77]

What does it say?

Nothing much. Last time Räty played in Liiga he put up 24 goals and 18 assists for Ilves. Previosly he played for Kärpät. Played in NA mostly for Coyotes farm team. Now wants to help Kärpät back to top of the Liiga standings and be leading player for them.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Wow Davidson really got hosed in that deal

Don’t think he got hosed

 

[dj Mahoney]

Wonder If Blackhawks could sneak Felcman into College ?

 

[ColbyChaos]

Wow Davidson really got hosed in that deal

How Ratty was seen as a mediocre AHL player? The real prize of the return is Soderstrom and always has been.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

How Ratty was seen as a mediocre AHL player? The real prize of the return is Soderstrom and always has been.

No it wasn’t. I can’t believe how many of you do not understand the point of this trade.

Raty and Soderstrom are nothing players, moving contracts for the hell of it. The hawks needed Weber’s contract or else they’d be 15 million short of the cap floor and may have to spend dollars where they don’t want to. 9.5 million cap hit 1 million in real dollars.

Who cares about a fifth round pick anyways?

 

[ColbyChaos]

No it wasn’t. I can’t believe how many of you do not understand the point of this trade.

Raty and Soderstrom are nothing players, moving contracts for the hell of it. The hawks needed Weber’s contract or else they’d be 15 million short of the cap floor and may have to spend dollars where they don’t want to. 9.5 million cap hit 1 million in real dollars.

Who cares about a fifth round pick anyways?

They wouldn’t be eying to sign Soderstrom if he was a nothing player…

If they didn’t want to sign Soderstrom they would have just taken Webers contract for free lmao

 

[MHO]

How Ratty was seen as a mediocre AHL player? The real prize of the return is Soderstrom and always has been.

My post was sarcastic

 

[ColbyChaos]

My post was sarcastic

Hard to tell here sometimes apologies