OT: All purpose Music thread

So more than ever, what's topping the charts isn't what the radio is pushing, but rather what people are listening to on their devices.
That’s likely true. Listening to music on a phone or tablet seems odd to me though. Its like having a shower with your socks on.

Even when I listen to music videos on YouTube which I do often when I'm picking a song I want to learn, or while learning the song, I connect my laptop to my stereo system which is audiophile level. I use iReal Pro software loaded on to my MacBook which provides backing tracks, so the audio comes out of an audiophile system as well. iReal Pro is a good tool for practicing. I’ll be using it in the next few minutes actually.

But everybody has different ideas I suppose.
 
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That’s likely true. Listening to music on a phone or tablet seems odd to me though. Its like having a shower with your socks on.

Even when I listen to music videos on YouTube which I do often when I'm picking a song I want to learn, or while learning the song, I connect my laptop to my stereo system which is audiophile level. I use iReal Pro software loaded on to my MacBook which provides backing tracks, so the audio comes out of an audiophile system as well. iReal Pro is a good tool for practicing. I’ll be using it in the next few minutes actually.

But everybody has different ideas I suppose.
I don't think they're using the phone or tablet speaker though. Probably connected to a better speaker, or headphones. "Devices" includes laptops and computers connected to expensive systems, though.
 
I don't think they're using the phone or tablet speaker though. Probably connected to a better speaker, or headphones. "Devices" includes laptops and computers connected to expensive systems, though.
Yes, that could be true. Lots of folks seem to like phones for just about everything, but hard to say exactly how or what else they use or connect to.
 
Golden era of jazz was 1930s. I would have loved to been around then.

I’ve known some very talented musicians over the years. Some of these guys are the hired gun guitarists who very popular, well known bands pick up when they tour a certain region. They are at the top of their trade. They can play anything.

But, even a lot of very talented musicians don’t make a lot of money even if they play a fair amount of gigs. They usually teach to supplement their income, and/or have a rich (or better off) spouse LOL.

Any method of learning is good. I use internet videos myself. But, then again, I use a wide variety of methods. Just as long as I’m learning, that’s the main objective. How you do it is less important than just doing it and you are learning & improving regardless of method.

But, if you have a good instructor, there are certain advantages which I've discovered over the 60 years or so that I’ve been playing. They can see you playing and correct mistakes i.e., move your 3rd finger from the 7th fret of the B string to the 7th fret of the G string. Or, if you play this variation of the chord instead, you can just lift your finger off the F on the first string to get an open E note of the 1st string which is the next note in the melody. They can tell you that this section has a ii chord followed by a V chord, but the artist has done a tri-tone substitution of the F dominant 7 to a Bb7. You can save some time when an instructor knows their stuff and explains these kinds of things to you.

I find the best YouTube videos are the ones that also have a tab or the sheet music besides watching them play. You can’t always tell if a specific note is actually being played because fingers that are needed for that chord can block the actual notes being played, so you just can’t tell (in essence, you can’t see all the notes being played). That’s where the tab comes in handy, or the sheet music, but not all videos have that. Tab is good, and actual traditional music notation (sheet music) is the also very good (sometimes, or often better even) because it accurately spells out how long each note or rest is played. I use tab a lot, but often use the sheet music to give me the necessary rhythmic info. That’s why I mentioned the Real Book in a previous post.

One question I asked was if anybody plays chord-melody. A lot of these ideas or concepts I’ve mentioned in earlier posts come into effect if you play chord-melody. I enjoy the challenge of merging, engineering and combining the melody with the chords of a song. It presents the full picture of the song and yet (from a guitar perspective) it's just one person playing guitar that is generating the end result.
I've never heard the expression chord-melody. Im imagining you mean something like Stanley Jordan doing eleanor rigby?
 
I've never heard the expression chord-melody. Im imagining you mean something like Stanley Jordan doing eleanor rigby?
Its the process of combining the melody with the chords of a song. This is very common in certain kinds of music like jazz.

If you play a piano, you use your left hand to play chords and the right hand to play the melody. You can do this simultaneously, or sometimes more or less simultaneously because 2 hands (and five fingers on each hand) are available for this process. This is a little oversimplified, but more or less, this is generally true.

On a guitar, you only have 4 fingers on one hand to play something (either single notes or chords). On a few occasions, you might use your thumb to play a bass note, but I’ll just keep it simple.

So merging the melody together with the chords requires some engineering. One rule is that the melody is always the highest (from a frequency/pitch perspective) note. Another rule is that often the first beat in a measure is where you play the chord. But, here again, I am oversimplifying. There are times you have to do what makes sense versus following rigid rules.

Jazz guitarists do this quite a lot, and I suppose classical guitar as well, although my experience in this genre of music is limited.

When you have a band with multiple instruments, or a singer, you can have one instrument or the singer handle the melody while other instruments play chords (well except for the drummer & bass player of course). So, with a lot of genres of music, you don’t need to do a chord-melody. You can, but its not necessary.

However, if you have the patience and skill, when you successfully do a chord-melody, it is the most complete picture of the song that can be presented by one single guitarist.

You can have very skilled musicians in any kind of music. The genre doesn’t determine or limit the skill. But, with jazz, there are some additional elements or layers that you must pay attention to.

Maybe that’s why a lot of musicians steer away from playing jazz. Those additional elements make it more complicated. Another complication is that for a jazz solo, the key often changes. In a song I just played, there were 5 keys: A major, C major, Bb major, D major, and A harmonic minor. And the key kept shifting amongst those 5 keys depending on what section of the song was being played. It was actually a relatively simple song relative to others I’ve played.

Another key difference is the chords being used. Most other forms of music (rock, blues, folk) use triadic chords (three notes). So, the chords are mostly major or minor chord, with maybe a dominant 7.

In jazz guitar, it's typically 4 note chords. The basic building blocks are major 7th, minor 7th an dominant 7th. But, there are hundreds of different chords a jazz guitarist (or any other instrument) will use. You’ll see 6th, 9th, 11th, 13th, flat/sharp 5 (with a minor or major 7th in the prefix), flat/sharp 9 (with a minor or major 7th in the prefix), half diminished, diminished, suspended chords, augmented chords, and many others (too numerous to list).

BTW, I took a real quick listen to that Stanley Jordan song. He was playing single notes mostly. He’s a skilled musician though no doubt.
 
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Yes, that could be true. Lots of folks seem to like phones for just about everything, but hard to say exactly how or what else they use or connect to.
Depends what you grew up with. If im chilling in my basement I will throw on some vinyl or a CD and just listen to albums. I like podcasts in the car because the radio is trash but I do listen to Elmnt FM from time to time.
 
Depends what you grew up with. If im chilling in my basement I will throw on some vinyl or a CD and just listen to albums. I like podcasts in the car because the radio is trash but I do listen to Elmnt FM from time to time.
Yes, I have hundreds of vinyl records or CDs as well, and a great audiophile level stereo system to listen to them on.
 
I listen to reggae...I put my reggae playlist...and then it will predict songs that are similar to that list...but I haven't been impressed, which is why I asked if anyone knows any new popular reggae artists that isn't the list I provided above....because I've heard all their popular stuff and already have what I like on my reggae playlist.
I don't listen to much reggae myself, but in my experience RateYourMusic is a good resource for finding new artists you might like. Either that or Last.fm, which can recommend you music based on what you listen to.

Here are some more recent reggae releases:

And some more general ones:

And there's a list of reggae artists listed here:
 
I don't listen to much reggae myself, but in my experience RateYourMusic is a good resource for finding new artists you might like. Either that or Last.fm, which can recommend you music based on what you listen to.

Here are some more recent reggae releases:

And some more general ones:

And there's a list of reggae artists listed here:

How do they know what you're listening to? Or to you just type in some songs or artists and they'll name comparables?

Or can you share access to your Spotify stats and they use those?
 
Its the process of combining the melody with the chords of a song. This is very common in certain kinds of music like jazz.

If you play a piano, you use your left hand to play chords and the right hand to play the melody. You can do this simultaneously, or sometimes more or less simultaneously because 2 hands (and five fingers on each hand) are available for this process. This is a little oversimplified, but more or less, this is generally true.

On a guitar, you only have 4 fingers on one hand to play something (either single notes or chords). On a few occasions, you might use your thumb to play a bass note, but I’ll just keep it simple.

So merging the melody together with the chords requires some engineering. One rule is that the melody is always the highest (from a frequency/pitch perspective) note. Another rule is that often the first beat in a measure is where you play the chord. But, here again, I am oversimplifying. There are times you have to do what makes sense versus following rigid rules.

Jazz guitarists do this quite a lot, and I suppose classical guitar as well, although my experience in this genre of music is limited.

When you have a band with multiple instruments, or a singer, you can have one instrument or the singer handle the melody while other instruments play chords (well except for the drummer & bass player of course). So, with a lot of genres of music, you don’t need to do a chord-melody. You can, but its not necessary.

However, if you have the patience and skill, when you successfully do a chord-melody, it is the most complete picture of the song that can be presented by one single guitarist.

You can have very skilled musicians in any kind of music. The genre doesn’t determine or limit the skill. But, with jazz, there are some additional elements or layers that you must pay attention to.

Maybe that’s why a lot of musicians steer away from playing jazz. Those additional elements make it more complicated. Another complication is that for a jazz solo, the key often changes. In a song I just played, there were 5 keys: A major, C major, Bb major, D major, and A harmonic minor. And the key kept shifting amongst those 5 keys depending on what section of the song was being played. It was actually a relatively simple song relative to others I’ve played.

Another key difference is the chords being used. Most other forms of music (rock, blues, folk) use triadic chords (three notes). So, the chords are mostly major or minor chord, with maybe a dominant 7.

In jazz guitar, it's typically 4 note chords. The basic building blocks are major 7th, minor 7th an dominant 7th. But, there are hundreds of different chords a jazz guitarist (or any other instrument) will use. You’ll see 6th, 9th, 11th, 13th, flat/sharp 5 (with a minor or major 7th in the prefix), flat/sharp 9 (with a minor or major 7th in the prefix), half diminished, diminished, suspended chords, augmented chords, and many others (too numerous to list).

BTW, I took a real quick lesson to that Stanley Jordan song. He was playing single notes mostly. He’s a skilled musician though no doubt.
So more along the lines of this guy



Probably not the best example, I'm really just reaching for an excuse to post one of his videos.....
 
How do they know what you're listening to? Or to you just type in some songs or artists and they'll name comparables?

Or can you share access to your Spotify stats and they use those?
There is Spotify integration. You will need to create an account on Last.fm first.
If you're not into doing that, you can always go to an artist's page and look under their similar artists. Here's Bob Marley's, for example:
 
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There is Spotify integration. You will need to create an account on Last.fm first.
If you're not into doing that, you can always go to an artist's page and look under their similar artists. Here's Bob Marley's, for example:

Thanks for that. I'll have to give that a try for rap, reggae, party music, etc.

I find a couple years ago, Spotify kept giving me songs I never heard but liked and would add to my playlist...now I find myself going to the recommended songs at the bottom of the playlist and have to remove 90% of the suggestions because they're nowhere near the same type of stuff.
 
So more along the lines of this guy



Probably not the best example, I'm really just reaching for an excuse to post one of his videos.....

Yes, sort of. He was doing some chord-melody in some parts.

Here is an example to look at for a Bossa song. Its the first one I could think of. Scroll a bit into the video to see where he has both the tab and video of the chord-melody showing simutaneously.

Often I create them myself from the sheet music I get from a Real Book. The sheets don’t tell you how to do the chord melody, but the 2 pieces are there (the melody & chords) so that you can figure out and engineer how to construct the chord-melody yourself.

 
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So more along the lines of this guy



Probably not the best example, I'm really just reaching for an excuse to post one of his videos.....

Here’s another one. For some reason, I keep finding bossa tunes to use as an example, although there’s plenty out there that are jazz songs & standards. There’s a bunch of videos that don’t have either tabs or regular music notation, but I skip past them because I know you like good/effective YouTube video instruction.

 
I’ll do a little fishing here and see where it leads?

1. Does anybody play songs that do not consist of triads?

2. Does anybody use the RealBook (or one of the Real Books)?

3. Does anybody enjoy developing solos for songs that have numerous keys in the same song?

Mostly I’m just seeing if anybody has similar focus & enjoys the same challenges in music. I can explain if someone is curious.
1. Yes. I was classically trained (piano) but naturally took to rock and all the fun stuff that goes along with it

2. Nope. I don't even know what that is!

3. Yes. I have played in many bands, and the ones that irritae me the most are bands where they want to mimic the original . I like to change it up, make it more interesting, and turn non piano accompanied songs into piano/jeyboard, whether through the good 'ol ivories or my synth keyboard

How I challenge myself, as my ears are phenomenally good at picking out songs and to play them quickly, is to go back to my old classical pieces to sharpen my technique. Nothing beats the intricacies of Chopin or Beethoven, Mozart, but I typically stay away from Bach
 
Listened and watched a lot of material on Bob Dylan recently.

Last concert was Deep Purple and Yes in Montreal last August... I seldom go to concerts now and had a chance to go to this one.
I was a fan of Yes back in the day.. they were very so/so . I was not a huge Deep Purple fan but they excellent.

I like a lot of music out of NA or Britain including rock, blues, country, metal, folk, punk, R&B... my favorite genre is Blues. I am not a fan at all, will avoid Rap or Hip hop or electronic.
I would go see any of those bands almost as a sign of respect. I would go because it is Deep Purple, even though i know a handful of songs. Same with Yes ( although I am a huge Rick Wakeman fan).

Not a big rap or hip hop guy either, but I still love the rap and hip hop from my teens. Late 80s , early 90s. My kids laugh at them and how squeaky clean they were as far as lyrics and message
 

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