OT: All-Purpose Expos Return Speculation Topic -- Part Deux

[Runner77]

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Bring back the Expos Robot!

 

[Runner77]

Wanted to acknowledge the passing of Ron Fairly, one of the original Expos.



The Expos acquired Fairly in a trade with the Dodgers in June 1969 during their inaugural major-league season. Fairly had won three World Series with the Dodgers while earning the nickname “Mr. Clutch.” When the Dodgers beat the Minnesota Twins in the 1965 World Series, Fairly hit safely in all seven games, going 11-for-29 (.379) with two home runs, three doubles and six RBIs. ...

“I have a lot of fond memories from my time with the Expos,” Fairly said in the 2003 interview.
“I remember how great the fans were. You went up to the plate at Parc Jarry and they were right there — right on top of you. You saw their faces and you had the chance to meet some of the people that were regulars.
“I thought the fans were fantastic,” Fairly added. “I wish we could have played a little better.”

RIP.

 

[sandviper]

Man, that 94-95 Expos squad was epic. Sucks what happened.

More sports in Montreal, let alone for Canada is great for everyone.

What I didn't know was this whole split squad thing. Heck no, I want it to be all Expos all the time.

 

[Tighthead]

The split squad thing is just posturing and politics. It's not tenable but it lets MLB and TB ownership save face.

 

[Runner77]

The split squad thing is just posturing and politics. It's not tenable but it lets MLB and TB ownership save face.

Sounds like a cheap stunt for Rays ownership to try and maximize profits while getting around the penalties and remaining term of the Tampa stadium lease.

 

[Tighthead]

Sounds like a cheap stunt for Rays ownership to try and maximize profits while getting around the penalties and remaining term of the Tampa stadium lease.

Also lets MLB say they tried to keep the franchise from relocating.

 

[Pickles]

I think having Rays playing games in Montreal is a foot in the door that hopefully leads to permeate team Montreal.

 

[LeHab]

Nationals Admit World Series Win Would Be Way Sweeter If Franchise Was Still In Montréal

 

[MasterDecoy]

Nationals Admit World Series Win Would Be Way Sweeter If Franchise Was Still In Montréal

I kNow it’s the onion, but ouch. That one hurt a little bit..,

 

[George Lebay]

I guess that pretty much settles it

 

[Runner77]

I guess that pretty much settles it

Never cared for it. A 2-city team would have never worked.

 

[George Lebay]

Never cared for it. A 2-city team would have never worked.

Weird plan indeed...

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

Good!

 

[stanley25]

At this point they should just pay the penalty for leaving the field early. Which is $5 million to demolish the stadium and $4 million for every year left prematurely. It's high but not as high you would think.

If they leave in the year 2020 the penalty is $33 million. It's more likely however that it would take 2-3 even 4 years to build a stadium and set up a team these things take time. So in 2022 the fee would be 29 million and in 2023 it would be $25 million, 2024= $21 million and so on until 2027.

 

[1909]

That's good news. No part-time team in MTL. That was absurd to start with.

 

[George Lebay]

Translation

It is to be expected that Sternberg offers to divest its shares in the real estate project in return for a termination of the lease with the Tropicana Field. The city will proceed to the demolition of the Stadium and Sternberg will be free to negotiate with Montreal the transfer of the club.

 

[1909]

Translation

It is to be expected that Sternberg offers to divest its shares in the real estate project in return for a termination of the lease with the Tropicana Field. The city will proceed to the demolition of the Stadium and Sternberg will be free to negotiate with Montreal the transfer of the club.

Really ?

 

[George Lebay]

Really ?

I don't know... just reporting what he said earlier today.

 

[Runner77]

All those roadblocks until 2027 and now this? How much is Sternberg's share of the real estate worth?

Stephen Bronfman -- time to put up or shut up if this is real.

 

[1909]

I don't know... just reporting what he said earlier today.

So.... The Rays would be sold to Bronfman... Or the actual owner would sell a certain % of the club to Bronfman and his friends and move the club to MTL ?

 

[George Lebay]

So.... The Rays would be sold to Bronfman... Or the actual owner would sell a certain % of the club to Bronfman and his friends and move the club to MTL ?

That's what I understand too..

 

[LeHab]

At this point they should just pay the penalty for leaving the field early. Which is $5 million to demolish the stadium and $4 million for every year left prematurely. It's high but not as high you would think.

If they leave in the year 2020 the penalty is $33 million. It's more likely however that it would take 2-3 even 4 years to build a stadium and set up a team these things take time. So in 2022 the fee would be 29 million and in 2023 it would be $25 million, 2024= $21 million and so on until 2027.

What is your source for this? From what I understand County has veto for any move regardless of what an owner is willing to pay. Owner is not even allowed to explore other opportunities without permission from the County. It is a bit easier to move within Tampa area as they were granted a window to negotiated for a potential new stadium. They were close to getting one but eventually failed and the window was closed.

 

[Burke the Legend]

What is your source for this? From what I understand County has veto for any move regardless of what an owner is willing to pay. Owner is not even allowed to explore other opportunities without permission from the County. It is a bit easier to move within Tampa area as they were granted a window to negotiated for a potential new stadium. They were close to getting one but eventually failed and the window was closed.

They could always threaten some manoeuvre like to fold the club, then the county gets nothing (figure out some loophole to compensate Sternberg). Sure the county could sue or something, and you get a decade of legal fighting. That could get the county to the table.

 

[LeHab]

They could always threaten some manoeuvre like to fold the club, then the county gets nothing (figure out some loophole to compensate Sternberg). Sure the county could sue or something, and you get a decade of legal fighting. That could get the county to the table.

MLB voted to contract the Twins and Expos back in early 2000's. A judge ruled Twins could not contract until end of lease. Don't know how things would unfold here but it may not be an automatic out.

If we are to believe Forbes numbers Rays are actually making a profit thanks to revenue sharing and a low payroll. Don't think they are desperate enough to go for extreme measures.

 

[Chili]

Bring back the Expos Robot!

That picture reminded me of the mascot before Youppi (~1978).

The head was like a baseball covered in aluminum foil, believe it was called Msr. Baseball. It was really bad.

Seem to remember it was scaring kids, that's when they went to the Muppets people who designed Youppi, thankfully.