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Carlo has proven he can play in the NHL ... it drives me nuts to think that the bruins can be considering dealing for a FWD and weaken the D even more (as if it's not weak enough).
Proposal: All Bruins trade rumors/proposals: 16/17 Part VI
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Tim Vezina Thomas
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Bye bye Carlo.
If EJ were part of the deal I'd like to make it a bigger deal. Acquiring, for instance, Landy and EJ makes us contenders IMO.
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Way too much money coming in and enough going out. Maybe Beauchemin with Landeskog?
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Serious money needs to be shipped out. Taking on 11.57m in hits without major money going out will cause issues this deadline and onward.
I think a lot of us are showing a Bruins bias here. Not to say you guys are wrong, but I think we need to pump the brakes a bit on Carlo.
McAvoy was the higher rated prospect up until day 1 of this season, and I don't hear anyone who's changed their opinion on him. So while surely Carlo has proven himself already, he still looks every bit the 3/4 he was projected to be. Which is great, but should we really get that carried away about him because he stepped in without much of a hiccup?
On the other side, Landeskog was drafted #2 overall and is a 25 goal scorer with grit and solid two-way play. He's a top 6 forward, easily. To say there's no way we can trade a #3/#4 for a 24 year old top 6 winger on a good contract when we have a supposedly better prospect in McAvoy who might be a month away, plus 3 or more top 4 d prospects like 1-2 seasons away, seems a little shortsighted to me.
Don't get me wrong I was banging the drum about our awful D and I like Carlo a lot. Moreover I'm not even sold on Landeskog. But if the Bruins felt Landeskog was going to give them two excellent lines for several years and McAvoy was going to be ready in a matter of weeks, it could easily be the right move. This isn't about this year...it's about the next 3-5 years.
McAvoy was the higher rated prospect up until day 1 of this season, and I don't hear anyone who's changed their opinion on him. So while surely Carlo has proven himself already, he still looks every bit the 3/4 he was projected to be. Which is great, but should we really get that carried away about him because he stepped in without much of a hiccup?
On the other side, Landeskog was drafted #2 overall and is a 25 goal scorer with grit and solid two-way play. He's a top 6 forward, easily. To say there's no way we can trade a #3/#4 for a 24 year old top 6 winger on a good contract when we have a supposedly better prospect in McAvoy who might be a month away, plus 3 or more top 4 d prospects like 1-2 seasons away, seems a little shortsighted to me.
Don't get me wrong I was banging the drum about our awful D and I like Carlo a lot. Moreover I'm not even sold on Landeskog. But if the Bruins felt Landeskog was going to give them two excellent lines for several years and McAvoy was going to be ready in a matter of weeks, it could easily be the right move. This isn't about this year...it's about the next 3-5 years.
Are we sure this is even real? Sounds like Sakic making a play only so he can driving up prices for other teams.
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Agree 100%
Make the deal bigger and get them both.
Carlo, 1st, 2 more prospects not named McAvoy, Bjork, JFK
1 of McQuaid/Kevan
1 of Belesky/Hayes (unless of course Colorado was willing to take both of these guys and leave us our xtra Dmen)
Boston get EJ and Landy
Time to contend again.
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The kid is playing 21 minutes a game in his 1st year in the pros. I'm not exactl sure how you would consider that projecting as a long term 3/4 guy?
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Yes and no for this year. If you took both in it would be just under $6 million for a cap hit. We have $3.5 million in cap space and would have to imagine we'd dump a contract like Hayes whose another $2.3 million. Either that or Maybe Colorado is willing to retain a little bit to make it work for Boston.
Well mostly because I don't see the game of a future #1. I'd attribute the minutes due to the fact the rest of our D isn't very good.
This is tough because I'm being forced to criticize the kid and that's not my intent. I think he looks excellent and I'd hate to move him. I'm just noting that scouting reports had him pegged as more of a defense-first, potential minutes eater. Not a top-pairing guy. Typically that's not the kind of guy you'd call untouchable. Whereas McAvoy has been touted as something more, and his progress also hasn't slowed. I'm trusting if the B's make this kind of trade it's because they are relying more on what they've always projected than what they saw from Carlo in the first few months.
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1) EJ is hurt
2) If we are getting EJ and Landeskog, you'd be looking at a huge haul of assets you don't want to give up. Not Spooner. Not 2nds, Not Hayes. I mean 4 or 5 prime assets.
It's just not happening.
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I wonder if Sakic was actually scouting someone like Spooner, or another minor piece like Cehlarik to add to Zboril + 1st.
One can dream
One can dream
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totally agree, but i also think it will have to take 1 of those 2 to get either Av F. I'd rather the B's walk away.
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Lando & Zadorov seems like a more reasonable ask and even that is going to cost them.
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Colin Miller is another legit option here.
Like Patty said, if it was going to be Carlo wouldn't it be done already? The Avs can get their Carlo analog in the Duchene deal. That seems like a more reasonable price for that player. I'd pay it, for that player, but not Lando.
It also makes a lot of sense from the Bruins perspective. Carlo and McAvoy are the future on the right side here. We have McQuaid and Kevan. If one of them stays then they can be the 3rd pair anchor and mentor to whatever left side prospects are left after the deal. Gryz-McQuid or Lauzon or Zboril...
Colin Miller, Zboril, 1st for Landeskog.
Like Patty said, if it was going to be Carlo wouldn't it be done already? The Avs can get their Carlo analog in the Duchene deal. That seems like a more reasonable price for that player. I'd pay it, for that player, but not Lando.
It also makes a lot of sense from the Bruins perspective. Carlo and McAvoy are the future on the right side here. We have McQuaid and Kevan. If one of them stays then they can be the 3rd pair anchor and mentor to whatever left side prospects are left after the deal. Gryz-McQuid or Lauzon or Zboril...
Colin Miller, Zboril, 1st for Landeskog.
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