All Bruins Trade Proposals/Rumours XI

[Gee Wally]

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[Fonzerelli]

Where is the Belesky rumour? Sorry

Mike Commodore twitter. He's been nailing these trades ahead of time. Called Burrows, Boyle and Shattenkirk yesterday ahead of official announcements.

He currently has Beleskey to Florida, Ott, Vanek & Doan off to un-named destinations as of now. No confirmed sources, just the word of Commodore, which has been pretty good so far

He also says Halak to Edmonton

 

[ON3M4N]

So the Bruins, who have a 75.5% chance of making the playoffs should be sellers? Is this pick this year in a draft that is being looked at as one of the weakest in more than a decade, where most likely you would be giving away Moore for nothing long term? Riley Nash is terrible, the other 4 have proven they are not ready for the NHL and Boston will probably have to try and find a good fourth line center next year if they don't get Moore to resign. Good on faceoffs, good penalty killer, good in the locker room and supposedly well liked by teammates and management, why move him just to move him?

Trading a 4th line center doesn't make you a seller lol. The pick doesn't have to be this year, maybe its in 2018. All I'm saying is if a team calls offering a 2nd or 3rd or Moore, I'm listening and considering it very hard.

I'm not moving him just to move him, but if I can get a good asset for him I'm going to do it.

 

[Ten Thousand Hours]

I'll re-pose my question on Moore from the closed thread on whether we should consider trading him for a pick, and inserting Czarnik into the lineup.

Again, let's flip the tables. If the Bruins are where we are now, but without Dominic Moore, would you want to trade a 2nd round pick for him?

 

[SPV]

It's not like Moore is gonna carry us to playoff wins. I'm not gonna argue that we can count on Czarnik more than Moore. But Czarnik + a 2nd or 3rd vs. Moore? It's close. I don't know if I'd bother for a 3rd, but if he gets a 2nd, I'd be willing to insert Czarnik.

I'll repost my answer then.


I'd disagree about trading Moore, this is just my opinion, but I think a good bottom 6 carries a lot of weight in the playoffs.

I remember back in 2004, that Joe Thornton got hurt and had a terrible first round against Montreal. But another problem in that series was that our fourth line pivot Teddy Donato also was hurt; I remember he was a big factor down the stretch and I always thought his absence was more the reason we lost that series than Thornton.

It's just my opinion of course, but I think Moore can be that glue type of guy too.

 

[nhldream]

I'll re-pose my question on Moore from the closed thread on whether we should consider trading him for a pick, and inserting Czarnik into the lineup.

Again, let's flip the tables. If the Bruins are where we are now, but without Dominic Moore, would you want to trade a 2nd round pick for him?

Dumb question imo. Of course not, the only reason we consider trading him is because we have a replacement in Nash. If we didn't have a 4c that can kill penalties and were in contention to go deep yeah I'd give a 4th maybe 3rd. Not sure that team exists though

Edit: my bad misread you looks like we agree

 

[Greek_physique]

I personally don't like Czarnik...if they could unload him for someone else (Vrbata) I'd do it.

 

[NDiesel]

I personally don't like Czarnik...if they could unload him for someone else (Vrbata) I'd do it.

Czarnik's a hard worker. I don't see anything special in him though.

 

[Fonzerelli]

I personally don't like Czarnik...if they could unload him for someone else (Vrbata) I'd do it.

I'm with you there. Never been a fan. Would have liked to see some of the other Providence guys get that ice in Boston over Czarnik.

 

[Dr Hook]

I'll re-pose my question on Moore from the closed thread on whether we should consider trading him for a pick, and inserting Czarnik into the lineup.

Again, let's flip the tables. If the Bruins are where we are now, but without Dominic Moore, would you want to trade a 2nd round pick for him?

No. I love the guy on our team and for me he should be the 7th player award winner. That aside, he I also valuable because we signed him as a UFA. I wouldn't rent him for a 2nd. For what we gave for Liles or Stemp, though, Moore would have been a much better value.

I would add this twist: are the Bruins where they are today without him? He's no game breaker, but his contribution has been immense for the minutes he plays and the role. If the team without him got to the same spot, then obviously someone on the 4th line was doing more than they have shown us so far.

 

[Fonzerelli]

I'm just not seeing it as Tampa because of there cap issues. They are trying to cut salaries why would they add Beleskys contract?

A Filppula for Beleskey swap does clear 1.1 million in salary. Plus if Tampa can bring back a young prospect for the system that's a +, plus they can now expose Beleskey in the expansion draft, where they couldn't expose Filppula

 

[Fenian24]

I'll re-pose my question on Moore from the closed thread on whether we should consider trading him for a pick, and inserting Czarnik into the lineup.

Again, let's flip the tables. If the Bruins are where we are now, but without Dominic Moore, would you want to trade a 2nd round pick for him?

In this years draft, with what is assumed to be a pick in the 50's, yes. At that time in this draft class it is pure luck if you get a nhl player, maybe even an nhl/ahl tweener. If it's the 2015 draft no.

 

[GoBs]

I'll re-pose my question on Moore from the closed thread on whether we should consider trading him for a pick, and inserting Czarnik into the lineup.

Again, let's flip the tables. If the Bruins are where we are now, but without Dominic Moore, would you want to trade a 2nd round pick for him?

Czarnik not ready his -10 is the red flag. He will get better but he is just not ready.

 

[Ten Thousand Hours]

I'll repost my answer then.


I'd disagree about trading Moore, this is just my opinion, but I think a good bottom 6 carries a lot of weight in the playoffs.

I remember back in 2004, that Joe Thornton got hurt and had a terrible first round against Montreal. But another problem in that series was that our fourth line pivot Teddy Donato also was hurt; I remember he was a big factor down the stretch and I always thought his absence was more the reason we lost that series than Thornton.

It's just my opinion of course, but I think Moore can be that glue type of guy too.

That's fair. And if you like Moore this much, you keep him. I think he's cooled off a bit since that Schaller, Moore, Acciari line was on a brief tear at the beginning of the year and am probably a bigger Czarnik fan than most. But if you think Moore moves the needle in the playoffs, that's reasonable, and not worth moving for a pick.

 

[Fonzerelli]

Czarnik not ready his -10 is the red flag. He will get better but he is just not ready.

And by the time he is ready, so are a handful of other prospects with higher ceilings. If they can get something for him, do it

 

[wintersej]

I'll re-pose my question on Moore from the closed thread on whether we should consider trading him for a pick, and inserting Czarnik into the lineup.

Again, let's flip the tables. If the Bruins are where we are now, but without Dominic Moore, would you want to trade a 2nd round pick for him?

Kuraly perhaps.

 

[BruinDust]

I really like Dominic Moore and wouldn't mind seeing him re-signed at similar money on a 1-year deal.

That being said, if another team offered up a 2nd rounder, he can pack his bags.

He's been a good player for Boston this year, but no team is giving up a 2nd for him. A 3rd is doubtful.

For a 4th, I'd just as soon hold onto him.

 

[wintersej]

If you can get a 2nd for Moore, of course you do it. Wouldn't for a 3rd. Doubt there is a 2nd out there for Moore.

 

[22Brad Park]

Great move for Rangers . Brendan Smith for a 2nd and a 3rd in a weak draft That kid will help them.

 

[Fonzerelli]

I really like Dominic Moore and wouldn't mind seeing him re-signed at similar money on a 1-year deal.

That being said, if another team offered up a 2nd rounder, he can pack his bags.

He's been a good player for Boston this year, but no team is giving up a 2nd for him. A 3rd is doubtful.

For a 4th, I'd just as soon hold onto him.

I agree. Moore is a valuable playoff piece in the room. He's our Thornton/Kelly element. And this years draft is so weak, anything less than a mid 2nd round pick is not worth losing what he brings to us for the post season.

I also like the idea of re-signing him for one year at similar money. Maybe a small raise if he delivers for us this spring. I wouldn't mind seeing Kuraly or Cave (or both) get some time in that spot next year, but if the price difference from those guys to Moore is basically a couple hundred thousand, I'd just as soon let Moore keep the spot warm, as I don't see any of those 3 guys in our long range plans.

 

[wintersej]

Great move for Rangers . Brendan Smith for a 2nd and a 3rd in a weak draft That kid will help them.

I don't feel like I watch him enough. The Detroit fans are jumping for joy that it was an overpayment. Of course, we all know how we fans overreact to hot and cold streaks and don't look at the big picture.

(remember how it was an obvious point here that Sacco was garbage and the PP was all his fault?)

 

[wintersej]

I agree. Moore is a valuable playoff piece in the room. He's our Thornton/Kelly element. And this years draft is so weak, anything less than a mid 2nd round pick is not worth losing what he brings to us for the post season.

I also like the idea of re-signing him for one year at similar money. Maybe a small raise if he delivers for us this spring. I wouldn't mind seeing Kuraly or Cave (or both) get some time in that spot next year, but if the price difference from those guys to Moore is basically a couple hundred thousand, I'd just as soon let Moore keep the spot warm, as I don't see any of those 3 guys in our long range plans.

Is the draft weak all the way down, or just lacking in 1st half of the 1st round guys?

 

[Greek_physique]

If we lose Moore for a pick...we better have another trade lined up to help out 4th line because he's carried that group all year.

If you want to make the playoffs this year; trading him, IMO, is bigger then you think.

 

[GoBs]

And by the time he is ready, so are a handful of other prospects with higher ceilings. If they can get something for him, do it

Agree, unlike some others on the big club Clode gave him a good look
2016-17 Boston Bruins* NHL 47 5 8 13 12 -10
2016-17 Providence Bruins AHL 5 1 4 5 2 -4

 

[Coach Parker]

Is the draft weak all the way down, or just lacking in 1st half of the 1st round guys?

From what I've read, there is a top 1-2 then 3-10 then 11-70. Your mid-first could be worth a 2nd because the range of players being ranked from 10-70 is all over the board.

A draft for scouts to earn their paychecks. Also, I'd take two 2nds over a mid 1st in this draft.