Speculation: All Bruins trade proposals/rumors VIII: Over the Holiday Freeze

[RussellmaniaKW]

He doesnt unless you know you cant re-sign Yeti.

if Yeti won't re-sign and the Bruins look for outside help instead of playing Spooner or Koko then I'm going to flip my ****

 

[Highatop308]

My money is on Vermette mainly because he has ties to Ottawa and Chiarelli has proven he can't go a season without acquiring somebody from Ottawa or someone he is familiar with from his days in Ottawa

Chara, Kelly, Schaeffer, Hnidy, Redden, Meszaros..who else am I missing? I feel like there are more

 

[neelynugs]

He doesnt unless you know you cant re-sign Yeti.

i dunno, i'd disagree with that. first, there's no way vermette is on the bruins next year. he's gonna get a lot of money thrown at him in free agency. at least 5M per season (whether he's worth that or not). second, i see him filling the peverley role on that third line. put him on the wing next to yeti and another trade pickup and he can take every key faceoff from the left dot in every game. i'd assume if they go that route, it means they will fill the 1st line with either loui or someone acquired for loui (oshie, etc).

 

[Latrappe]

Still evaluating.....

 

[bb_fan]

unless Chia is trading an impending UFA for Stuart, don't want to bother.

same with Stafford, I didn't realize he was a UFA as well (and I would prefer him, but not as a rental)

 

[Ice Nine]

Ha.

If this team starts getting into that they'll have more problems than they'll know what to do with.

You do what you need to do to get better.

 

[bb_fan]

i dunno, i'd disagree with that. first, there's no way vermette is on the bruins next year. he's gonna get a lot of money thrown at him in free agency. at least 5M per season (whether he's worth that or not). second, i see him filling the peverley role on that third line. put him on the wing next to yeti and another trade pickup and he can take every key faceoff from the left dot in every game. i'd assume if they go that route, it means they will fill the 1st line with either loui or someone acquired for loui (oshie, etc).

nope, Loui is back to the third line in practice today:

Julien has clearly decided Eriksson stays on the third line after they produced a goal for Chris Kelly on their first shift together, and then allowed Erikson to net the overtime game-winner.

“These are just challenges that we’ve been through all year,†said Claude Julien. “You saw last night that I had to put [Loui] Eriksson back with his line, then all of a sudden in the first shift together they score a goal. That’s the challenge I’ve been dealing with all year: trying to find guys on certain lines to help certain guys.

“It seems like when you’re helping one line then you’re weakening another. I’m doing my best to balance lines, and insert different players in with different things. I don’t have the answer right now. I’m not satisfied with what I’m seeing, so I need to continue working on t. That’s my job.â€

 

[neelynugs]

Considering it doesn't address a need, on a cash strapped team, yes.

Theoretically it would be a swap with Kelly and that doesn't make sense, especially where you are trying to save some $$ in that slot from current state. Better player, sure, but not enough of a delta to add salary in that spot.

it does make them a much deeper team, putting kelly in the middle on the 4th line. i'd rather see them bring in a stud RW to play top line, but don't see it happening. i think vermette might be the best option in a sea of mediocre options (fit-wise)...i'd prefer that they sold off some assets and positioned themselves for 2015-16 but we all know that's never happening (unless they lose 13 in a row or something crazy).

 

[Gee Wally]

i dunno, i'd disagree with that. first, there's no way vermette is on the bruins next year. he's gonna get a lot of money thrown at him in free agency. at least 5M per season (whether he's worth that or not). second, i see him filling the peverley role on that third line. put him on the wing next to yeti and another trade pickup and he can take every key faceoff from the left dot in every game. i'd assume if they go that route, it means they will fill the 1st line with either loui or someone acquired for loui (oshie, etc).

Maybe youre right brother.
I still would like to see Loui with an extende ( 6 to 10) games on the first line before hes shown the exit.
Although today at practice hes right back on third.

 

[neelynugs]

nope, Loui is back to the third line in practice today:

Julien has clearly decided Eriksson stays on the third line after they produced a goal for Chris Kelly on their first shift together, and then allowed Erikson to net the overtime game-winner.

“These are just challenges that we’ve been through all year,†said Claude Julien. “You saw last night that I had to put [Loui] Eriksson back with his line, then all of a sudden in the first shift together they score a goal. That’s the challenge I’ve been dealing with all year: trying to find guys on certain lines to help certain guys.

“It seems like when you’re helping one line then you’re weakening another. I’m doing my best to balance lines, and insert different players in with different things. I don’t have the answer right now. I’m not satisfied with what I’m seeing, so I need to continue working on it. That’s my job.â€

clode to chia: get me someone better than seth griffith to play on the 1st line.

 

[Ice Nine]

Considering it doesn't address a need, on a cash strapped team, yes.

Theoretically it would be a swap with Kelly and that doesn't make sense, especially where you are trying to save some $$ in that slot from current state. Better player, sure, but not enough of a delta to add salary in that spot.

*exactly.* 100%.

I'm not opposed to Vermette; he's just not what is needed on this team right now.

If some of the existing grinders were waived tomorrow, I'd be open for it. If they swapped Kelly/Campbell for Vermette -- fantastic.

Otherwise, no. Too much cap space for another third/fourth line two way forward.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

My money is on Vermette mainly because he has ties to Ottawa and Chiarelli has proven he can't go a season without acquiring somebody from Ottawa or someone he is familiar with from his days in Ottawa

Chara, Kelly, Schaeffer, Hnidy, Redden, Meszaros..who else am I missing? I feel like there are more

Daugavins, josh Hennesy, Joe Corvo, Brandon Bochenski, Patrick Eaves, Brian McGrattan, Jason York

 

[wintersej]

Immediately or longer term?

Personally, if Subban is still in the system going into the 2016-2017 season, I would look at moving Tuukka at the 2016 entry draft. Subban's controlled cost could be very valuable to us by then. If we could move Tuukka to a team that has a young up and coming, cost controlled stud, but with some proven NHL talent (a Monohan type), I would move Tuukka. Maybe we could get that player and a 1st back. I do think I would rather spend Tuukka's salary in other places by that point. Chara will be damn near 40 then.

I might go a year earlier than that, TBH.

 

[Kate08]

it does make them a much deeper team, putting kelly in the middle on the 4th line. i'd rather see them bring in a stud RW to play top line, but don't see it happening. i think vermette might be the best option in a sea of mediocre options (fit-wise)...i'd prefer that they sold off some assets and positioned themselves for 2015-16 but we all know that's never happening (unless they lose 13 in a row or something crazy).

This is where I'm at.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I don't know if there's any (realistic) deal out there that would excite me for this year.

 

[Hali33]

You do what you need to do to get better.

Yeah, it doesn't work like that.

Good luck having players come here if the attitude from management is "Do what I say and give up your rights in the contract I gave you or I won't let you play".

 

[neelynugs]

*exactly.* 100%.

I'm not opposed to Vermette; he's just not what is needed on this team right now.

If some of the existing grinders were waived tomorrow, I'd be open for it. If they swapped Kelly/Campbell for Vermette -- fantastic.

Otherwise, no. Too much cap space for another third/fourth line two way forward.

i don't think campbell is long for this team. if he's not gone by the deadline, he won't be back next year anyway. he's an easy piece to move for a draft pick, and then kelly can be moved to 4th line when they upgrade somewhere.

 

[Stone Clode]

My money is on Vermette mainly because he has ties to Ottawa and Chiarelli has proven he can't go a season without acquiring somebody from Ottawa or someone he is familiar with from his days in Ottawa

Chara, Kelly, Schaeffer, Hnidy, Redden, Meszaros..who else am I missing? I feel like there are more

Eaves, Corvo, McGrattan, Bochenski.


And damn, I forgot Vermette was on that ECF Ottawa team. Yikes.

 

[Gee Wally]

clode to chia: get me someone better than seth griffith to play on the 1st line.

Exactly.
Hes sending a message and has been the last few weeks.

 

[Absurdity]

clode to chia: get me someone better than seth griffith to play on the 1st line.

David Pastrnak.

 

[Ice Nine]

My money is on Vermette mainly because he has ties to Ottawa and Chiarelli has proven he can't go a season without acquiring somebody from Ottawa or someone he is familiar with from his days in Ottawa

Chara, Kelly, Schaeffer, Hnidy, Redden, Meszaros..who else am I missing? I feel like there are more

Corvo was here too!

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

nope, Loui is back to the third line in practice today:

Julien has clearly decided Eriksson stays on the third line after they produced a goal for Chris Kelly on their first shift together, and then allowed Erikson to net the overtime game-winner.

“These are just challenges that we’ve been through all year,†said Claude Julien. “You saw last night that I had to put [Loui] Eriksson back with his line, then all of a sudden in the first shift together they score a goal. That’s the challenge I’ve been dealing with all year: trying to find guys on certain lines to help certain guys.

“It seems like when you’re helping one line then you’re weakening another. I’m doing my best to balance lines, and insert different players in with different things. I don’t have the answer right now. I’m not satisfied with what I’m seeing, so I need to continue working on it. That’s my job.â€

haha Claude putting more stock in the Kelly goal which didn't involve Loui at all than in the Loui OT goal which was a result of a chip pass from Lucic.

 

[neelynugs]

This is where I'm at.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I don't know if there's any (realistic) deal out there that would excite me for this year.

yup. this season has been a pretty huge disappointment from a success and aesthetic standpoint. some of the games have been hard to watch. just hoping their plan (whatever that is) fixes the overall problems.

 

[BMC]

David Pastrnak.

May as well.

 

[Ice Nine]

David Pastrnak.

[ Bruins front office, circa summer, 2016 ]

I like Pastrnak, but I'm concerned about his "compete level".

And I wonder if he's willing to "pay the price" ?

He is going to be a "real good" player, but has not progressed on certain things the way we would have liked (translated: he's not yet digressed from an exciting winger to a two way forward CJ drone)

 

[neelynugs]

David Pastrnak.

even if they deemed pastrnak physically ready, he wouldn't play in the playoffs (or play much). the front office/coaching MO is to sit those young kids. kessel, seguin, hamilton. some of them were forced into duty due to injuries.

i'd prefer they kept pastrnak underneath the 9 game threshold personally - will be a good asset to have him at a 925k cap hit for 3 years.