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Ah correct and hopefully lombardiDon't forget Soderblom and hopefully Mazur.
Ah correct and hopefully lombardiDon't forget Soderblom and hopefully Mazur.
One would hope, but I don't expect much.Ah correct and hopefully lombardi
I feel like we don’t even have a defined “core” yet. Larkin and Raymond? Even if they are, they’re not the caliber of players you build a team around.Yzerman has preached "core" relentlessly.
In the beginning of the season he said he wanted to add to the core and tried to do so in the offseason.
Prior to the trade deadline he said he thinks he knows who the core is, then traded Bert and Hronek. Big message to the guys on the team, you are the core.
At the end of the season he said he would not trade for someone who doesnt add to the core.
The real question is: Does Debrincat add to the core and does he fit the team? I think 100% yes. He grew up playing with Larks and Copp, albeit slightly younger, and (speculation) likely somewhat looked up to Larkin and Copp and saw them as major competition. The three of them immediately bring a Michigan culture, a Red Wings culture, to the room without having won anything as a team yet.
This is very exciting if true.
At this point I feel like it's Larkin and Seider. I think any pre-Yzerman guy outside of Larkin is questionable long term. Ras may be here long term, but he's not like an essential piece or anything along those lines.I feel like we don’t even have a defined “core” yet. Larkin and Raymond? Even if they are, they’re not the caliber of players you build a team around.
Yeah, we certainly hope most of those guys will be core guys. That's what drafting and development is all about. However most of them have far too little if any NHL experience to pencil them in just yet. In 2-3 years we'll know who is part of the core and who is not.Building a core of Seider, Edvinsson, Kasper, Larkin, Raymond, and Cossa + Pick 9 of this draft. If we traded for Debrincat, he would certainly become a part of this nucleus.
We also hope guys like Mazur, Lombardi, Wallinder, Soderblom and Berggren keep getting better.
We’re gonna build a team around guys we still don’t know if they’re any good?Building a core of Seider, Edvinsson, Kasper, Larkin, Raymond, and Cossa + Pick 9 of this draft. If we traded for Debrincat, he would certainly become a part of this nucleus.
We also hope guys like Mazur, Lombardi, Wallinder, Soderblom and Berggren keep getting better.
There is no way we are adding on this deal to get rid of Zadina.
If Yzerman calls all the GMs in the league and tries to off load Zadina, someone will offer up a very late pick to take chance on him. His deal is cheap.
One 1st I'm fine with. Two is a no go for me.
That's how rebuilding works. You hope every high pick becomes part of your core, and maybe 1 or 2 of your later picks. If a pick doesn't work out (Zadina) you may need to trade for someone who can fill that role (DeBrincat).We’re gonna build a team around guys we still don’t know if they’re any good?
That’s the equivalent of saying Zadina was part of the “core” in 2019.
Rasmussen could easily become a part of the core when we make the playoffs and the game suddenly becomes tougher.At this point I feel like it's Larkin and Seider. I think any pre-Yzerman guy outside of Larkin is questionable long term. Ras may be here long term, but he's not like an essential piece or anything along those lines.
Not on HFB. You ice the worst team in history until either you have six HoFers or they relocate the franchise. Anything less is mediocrity (which is now considered worse than relocating the franchise).That's how rebuilding works. You hope every high pick becomes part of your core, and maybe 1 or 2 of your later picks. If a pick doesn't work out (Zadina) you may need to trade for someone who can fill that role (DeBrincat).
from everything we know of Yzerman, why does anyone think this deal is now likely to happen? He hates leaks and has been said to scuttle trade trade talks if information about them starts to leak out. If this was serious and Ottawa wanted this deal to happen we wouldn't be hearing about it.
So, it makes me think the trade is either total guesswork by the publication or ottawa is leaking something hoping to get someone else to up their offer.
I think a healthy Ras on a wing next season becomes a very valuable Red Wing!Rasmussen could easily become a part of the core when we make the playoffs and the game suddenly becomes tougher.
I can't believe you guys are forgetting Jake WalmanBuilding a core of Seider, Edvinsson, Kasper, Larkin, Raymond, and Cossa + Pick 9 of this draft. If we traded for Debrincat, he would certainly become a part of this nucleus.
We also hope guys like Mazur, Lombardi, Wallinder, Soderblom and Berggren keep getting better.
It has a very good chance of happening, Marek and Friedman are legit sources.
I'd bet on SY still being GM when an eight-year-deal signed this summer ends.Why worry about term? That's the next GM's problem and we'll have a couple Cups to ease the pain.
A 2nd, 3rd, and a couple throw-ins does indeed sound more palatable to Detroit than two 1sts, a 2nd, and some throw-ins. I'm not so sure that brain storming things that sound great for Detroit are the best way to come up trade proposals though.Doesn't a 2nd 2023, a 3rd 2024, Kubs, and Zadina sound more palatable? They get some future high picks, a scorer (Kubs), and a possible bonus if Zadina turns things around. I agree with the no first crowd and believe Steve does too.
One other thing I just picked up on was that Steve doesn't like the 8 year term the Cat is looking for, so he has some concerns apparently too.