All 4 Original Six teams based in the US did not qualify for the playoffs

[Mr grumpy]

Imagine that, four teams having the collectively greater impact than one. I, too, went to college.

Comprehension is obviously hard for some people to understand.

Blue Jackats, Islanders, Buffalo, Flyers, Pens, flames, Vancouver, Utah, Ducks, Seattle, Nashville, and San Jose missing the playoffs is just one of those things.

But Having the 4 American teams that founded the league miss the playoffs? That has far more impact.

 

[rojac]

Comprehension is obviously hard for some people to understand.

Blue Jackats, Islanders, Buffalo, Flyers, Pens, flames, Vancouver, Utah, Ducks, Seattle, Nashville, and San Jose missing the playoffs is just one of those things.

But Having the 4 American teams that founded the league miss the playoffs? That has far more impact.

No American teams founded the league. It was founded but 4 Canadian teams . The first American team came in 1924. The tern Original Six just refers to the existing six teams when they expanded to 12 teams in 1967. Those six teams had been the only teams in the league since the 1942-43 season.

 

[HuGo Sham]

What other sports league even talks in O6-type terms?

there is no 06..only an original one.
Habs

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

You know, maybe that's a sign that the league is capable of growing beyond its roots and the league should realize it, sunset the dumb O6 idea and start to market every team instead of cherry picking big markets and old teams every year.

Of course the league will learn nothing and we'll use this as some kind of reason as to why the league is failing

 

[1989]

Comprehension is obviously hard for some people to understand.

Blue Jackats, Islanders, Buffalo, Flyers, Pens, flames, Vancouver, Utah, Ducks, Seattle, Nashville, and San Jose missing the playoffs is just one of those things.

But Having the 4 American teams that founded the league miss the playoffs? That has far more impact.

Exactly what does bringing Columbus, NYI, Buffalo, Philadelphia, Calgary, Vancouver, Utah, Anaheim, Seattle, Nashville and San Jose have to do with this?
If you say comprehension is difficult for others, perhaps you should endeavour to write statements with clarity in your reasoning.

Is making the playoffs all that matters, or is winning more important?

The most recent Original Six franchise to win a Cup was the 2015 Blackhawks a decade ago.
Since the 2005 lockout, non-Original Six teams Pittsburgh (x3) and Los Angeles (x2) have won 5 Cups, while Detroit, Boston and Chicago have won 5 in the case of Original Six teams. That's not even counting Las Vegas and Tampa.

In the same timeframe, five O6 teams have been losers in the Finals: Detroit, Rangers, Boston x2, and Montreal in the COVID season.

At what point exactly does the "impact" of being an Original Six team become negated by the fact that the league is in a state of parity and that influence is carried by those who win, not those who merely exist?

 

[Vukotal Recall]

Gretzky softly weeping in the hot tub.

 

[StreetHawk]

You know, maybe that's a sign that the league is capable of growing beyond its roots and the league should realize it, sunset the dumb O6 idea and start to market every team instead of cherry picking big markets and old teams every year.

Of course the league will learn nothing and we'll use this as some kind of reason as to why the league is failing

The original 6 also includes 3 of the biggest US markets in NYR, Chi, Bos, so it's a big deal in that regard as they do attract a larger following than other clubs. But, in a 32 team league, you will have ups and downs with the larger markets.

US clubs would be Wash, Car, NJ, TB, FLA, LV, LA, Dal, Col, Min, STL if the current seeds hold on.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

The original 6 also includes 3 of the biggest US markets in NYR, Chi, Bos, so it's a big deal in that regard as they do attract a larger following than other clubs. But, in a 32 team league, you will have ups and downs with the larger markets.

US clubs would be Wash, Car, NJ, TB, FLA, LV, LA, Dal, Col, Min, STL if the current seeds hold on.

I mean count me as one saying that its a good thing that some of the biggest markets are being locked out right now. Its genuinely good for the sport and good for the game that you have all these other markets actively engaged right now, and the best thing the league could do would be to capitalize on it and continue to grow it from there.

But as I said, going into next year we all know the national broadcasts and league marketing will be heavily skewed to the big markets

 

[Grifter3511]

More like a small number lf hockey fans help keep the O6 stuff alive, for ..... reasons. Outside of the O6 teams, most fans couldn't care less about it even if they know about it.

Personally, I think the O6 stuff is just more evidence of the NHL's huge inferiority complex to the other professional sports leagues. "We have tradition!" Ya, ok, whatever.

I think it's a generational thing that is finally starting to become outdated as the majority of fans from the O6 days begin to pass on to the other side.

I was born in 1981 and throughout the 80s and 90s there were countless people born and raised in Vancouver, or Winnipeg, or Calgary (just some of the canadian cities I spent time in) who liked the Jets, Flames or Canucks, but LOVED the Blackhawks or Red Wings, or Bruins, etc. Because these people were fans from before there was local (or closer) representation so they developed life long ties to the team they rooted for as a kid.

But as the O6 days get further behind us, fans outside of the O6 cities have less and less connection to them.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Canada is pinning it's hopes and dreams on Winnipeg and Toronto.

 

[BB79]

I blame Utah. Their first season and we all miss. It's all their fault!

 

[Ezpz]

Cause they're the worst four O6 teams.

 

[BB79]

What other sports league even talks in O6-type terms?

What other leagues allow fighting and checking? We should get rid of those too, right?

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

 

[BB79]

You know, maybe that's a sign that the league is capable of growing beyond its roots and the league should realize it, sunset the dumb O6 idea and start to market every team instead of cherry picking big markets and old teams every year.

Of course the league will learn nothing and we'll use this as some kind of reason as to why the league is failing

Yup. Let's ignore 6 of the league's biggest traditional markets and focus on bringing hockey to Maui. Excellent business strategy

 

[VivaLasVegas]

What other leagues allow fighting and checking? We should get rid of those too, right?

Apples and orangutans.

 

[BB79]

Apples and orangutans.

Blackhawks and Golden Knights

 

[Lshap]

At what point exactly does the "impact" of being an Original Six team become negated by the fact that the league is in a state of parity and that influence is carried by those who win, not those who merely exist?

How was Florida, Colorado or Vegas' Cups affected by the O6's history? I don't see any conflict between past and present.

The NHL's original six are part of hockey's wider story, interesting as an historical reference and as part of its lore. This thread points out an historical oddity relating to four of those teams, but it doesn't interfere in any way with the current playoffs. I have no idea why people would object to pointing this out.

 

[BB79]

Canada is pinning it's hopes and dreams on Winnipeg and Toronto.

Well, Winnipeg won the Presidents Trophy so they might as well go play golf..Ottawa has a good shot as they get a first round bye against Toronto though

 

[HolyGhost]

Throw in a non original six Pittsburgh, and that will be a first time for that too.

You can Vancouver and 8 other team as well, Pens are in no way anyshape or form in the same league as the OG 4

 

[Viqsi]

I would just like to proudly say that my Hawks have held up their end of this proposition quite nicely over the last decade with the only blip in our exemplary record being the bastard Covid playoff format.

You're welcome.

That's nice and all but we kind of need y'all to step up in a different fashion tonight.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

You can Vancouver and 8 other team as well, Pens are in no way anyshape or form in the same league as the OG 4

I'm not comparing. I'm just saying. It's a first time that it's ever happened.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

The 4 OGs have far more impact than the pens.

Not a comparison. Just stating a first in the NHL.

 

[BLNY]

What other sports league even talks in O6-type terms?

None. The O6 is a marketing con.

 

[HanSolo]

I don't know why anyone cares. I've been a fan of this sport for well over twenty years and I respect the history and legacy of the O6 but today, in terms of on ice product, they're NHL teams just like any other. They have their ups and downs. Their legacy has little impact on poor management and coaching.