Confirmed with Link: Alexandre Carrier acquired from the Predators in exchange for Justin Barron

[JoelWarlord]

You would understand the move if your entire opinion wasn't formed on a spreadsheet.

Funny thing is the spreadsheet metrics are pretty kind to Carrier and negative on Barron. I think this is more about scouting by measuring tape

 

[Apoplectic Habs Fan]

I still think his absolute upside is Patrice Brisebois (but he's well behind Brisebois at same age).

Thats if everything goes to his way. I was no fan of PB but somehow Barron plays even more scared

 

[Big Lurk]

Lmao where was all this Lehkonen love back when he was on the team

Where were the 106 points in 129 games?

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


But really there was love. He's the freaking St Jean Baptiste hero ffs.
Just it was time to move on if we wanted to get this rebuild underway. Same thing for Toffoli who has been excellent for us.

Lehkonen Dach Laine?

Lehk wouldve had 5 points and be -42 due to Kirby sucking hard so far (have to admit it as a staunch KD defender)


Sometimes trades dont work out.
And this was one of them.

 

[MXD]

Thats if everything goes to his way. I was no fan of PB but somehow Barron plays even more scared

More scared and definitely inferior when it comes to positionning.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

whoa! big news. time to read 11 pages of discussion on trading Justin Barron

 

[SwiftyHab]

Carrière might be 5’11 175lbs but playing at home, he’s going to be a 6’5 230 lbs clear the crease monster. That’s just what we needed here with the focus on defence

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Barron was Patrick Traverse 2.0

Just did not improve much if at all

He did not. A disappointment for sure. But he also didn’t get much ice and we’re a mess on the right side. Maybe he can turn it around in Nashville.

 

[le_sean]

Don’t like this trade. We need more big punishing dmen not another smurf that can’t handle physicality

And we also take on a lot more salary

really disappointed and confused

We got rid of the softest defenceman on the team who is afraid of his own shadow

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Where were the 106 points in 129 games?

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


But really there was love. He's the freaking St Jean Baptiste hero ffs.
Just it was time to move on if we wanted to get this rebuild underway. Same thing for Toffoli who has been excellent for us.

Lehkonen Dach Laine?

Lehk wouldve had 5 points and be -42 due to Kirby sucking hard so far (have to admit it as a staunch KD defender)


Sometimes trades dont work out.
And this was one of them.

I liked Lekonen. I’m glad he has the success he did. I rooted for him just like I will with Barron. Even though this didn’t work out, we got Hage. So I’d say in the long run it’s a trade I’d do again.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Don’t like this trade. We need more big punishing dmen not another smurf that can’t handle physicality

And we also take on a lot more salary

really disappointed and confused

I fully agree with your sentiment.

However, Barron is one of the softest players in the league. While Carrier is far from being a tough SOB, it's still additon by substraction on that front.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Where were the 106 points in 129 games?

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


But really there was love. He's the freaking St Jean Baptiste hero ffs.
Just it was time to move on if we wanted to get this rebuild underway. Same thing for Toffoli who has been excellent for us.

Lehkonen Dach Laine?

Lehk wouldve had 5 points and be -42 due to Kirby sucking hard so far (have to admit it as a staunch KD defender)


Sometimes trades dont work out.
And this was one of them.

IT DID WORK OUT. They got Hage because of it.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

We got rid of the softest defenceman on the team who is afraid of his own shadow

It will be an immediate improvement.

Down the road? We’ll see.

 

[BigFatCat999]

So would Montreal want the other French Canadian on the Preds, Lauzon?

 

[Big Lurk]

Lehkonen for Barron for Carrier….. Hughes is not winning anyway.

You keep Lehky and Kovacevic and the team is already a .500 team, if not more.

Carrier should be ok. He had a 30 points season two or three seasons ago. Always been in the plusses except this season on a god awful worst team than Habs. His salary is a bit high. I guess they gonna trade Savard soon.

And then do we have Reinbacher and Demidov, Hage etc?

What is it that you people want.

We could've been a playoff team if they kept everyone, eventually. But then that's what you've all crucified the other GM's for.

 

[Be a Hab]

Good trade for us.

For those of you who wanted to be in the mix, he will help.

Not sure what this means for Strubble

 

[Guess]

Why did we not just pick up Fabbro for free? How does Carrier compare?

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I liked Lekonen. I’m glad he has the success he did. I rooted for him just like I will with Barron. Even though this didn’t work out, we got Hage. So I’d say in the long run it’s a trade I’d do again.

I disliked the guy. Maybe not his fault but he would fall down and knock himself out if he had an empty net to shoot at.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

I wouldn't call him a long neck from the pictures. I need to see him in a Habs jersey, but the proportions seem good to above average at a quick glance. He doesn't look like an ex long necker too, so I don't see any worrying personal history there either.

the important analysis i was looking for

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Why did we not just pick up Fabbro for free? How does Carrier compare?

Carrier wanted to be a Hab. Fabbro's contract is expiring. Would he reup?

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

It's insane how badly obvious it is we have to trade Matheson for a RD
Whatever it takes.

targets?

 

[Big Lurk]

IT DID WORK OUT. They got Hage because of it.

"Dvorak shot from the point, deflects on your helmet and Gallagher banks it in garbage style" type of secondary assist.

I guess I'll take it

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I disliked the guy. Maybe not his fault but he would fall down and knock himself out if he had an empty net to shoot at.

He had motor. I liked that about him. Maybe not the most skilled guy but he had heart.

When I look at a player like Joshua Roy, I wish he had more of that. Great skill, cerebral player but he leaves me wanting more. It was his job to lose and he played far too passively. I get that’s his style but he needs to show MORE. Lek may not have had Roy’s talent but he had some and he brought energy. That’s why he was successful on Colorado.

 

[Andrei79]

IT DID WORK OUT. They got Hage because of it.

I think this is the key point and why you try to acquire a pool of assets when you're starting your rebuild, precisely so you can make moves like these. Some will bust, but if you can turn a second into a player like Hage it's definitely a win. The other part of the equation is that Lehkonen made the team better and they needed to finish at the bottom a few years.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

Carrier also has a bomb of a point shot - something sorely lacking on the Habs PP at present

point shot on the PP? what is this, 2008?

Dobson has pretty much a goldilocks morphology. Too little neck and you're likely headed for a coaching career, the bottom lines or chronic unemployment (this risk doubles and sometimes triples depending on studies if you have narrow eyes as well). Too much neck and you'll be cursed with one of the worst "gifts" one can be born into: talented enough to make the pros, but destined to be the fans laughing stock and soon to be out of the league. You won't make enough income to sustain a whole life, you're likely of average intelligence meaning your prospects outside of hockey are, at best, mediocre and you've tasted just enough of the sweet, sweet nectar of professional sports to be able to be nostalgic about what could have been, but which wasn't ever realistic with your cursed morphology.

Then, you have players like Dobson. You measure the neck and it's, quite evidently, of above average length, but still well within what's considered normal. It's imposing without being in freak territory. Think of a magnificent eagle with its long strong neck, compared to a horrible looking animal like an emu with it's abomination of a morphology, unable to fly or do much of anything except be slaughtered.

Just look at this fine specimen:
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Notice the resemblance with one of our prospects, Mailloux. Similar facial structure and features above the filtrum. Where does he differ though ? What makes Dobson a star while Mailloux a player who we fear might become another low IQ player. It's the wide jaw compared to Maillouxs narrower, triangle shaped jaw and chin, highlighting his neck. This triangle shape also appears when you look at him from his profile. Two pieces of evidence to show everyone what I mean:
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Look at the blue lines and sharp angles. The whole facial and head morphology pronounces the neck further.

Meanwhile:
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Just beautiful. A perfect specimen.

please write a book just DM me the Kickstarter

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

As many have said, this is an evaluation year. We have young players coming up and they’re probably stack ranking all these guys.

We needed veteran help and they probably figured that Baron was lesser than RB and Mailloux. And if that’s the case then it makes sense to move on from him.

People here seem to like Carriere… great, I don’t know anything about him. I’d have liked some size though. Not even six feet…