Player Discussion Alexander Ovechkin (Vol. 4)

[Kuz]

It's got to be a unique streak now going 6 games with a goal while losing all of those games, never-mind the team is on a total 8 game skid. I actually don't even recall a player on a goal streak of 4+ where his team lost every game.

They won over Boston in those games.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Ouch. Thanks for explaining it, guys. Not the answer I WANTED to hear, but thank you! In other words, Ovi gets hot for the 2nd half of the season, conditions like crazy in the off season and plays like he's 30 again this fall. Hey, why not?

First half of your prediction may be coming true. He’s rebounded, and could squeeze 25+ now. I think 30 is a hill too tall, but he’s not the guy I’d bet against for it.

He’s got what, or so games to get 16 more goals?

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

I think people are overreacting a little bit to this hot streak. Not that I’m not loving it. But his shooting percentage was so low earlier in the year. Now pucks that should not go in are. Weird deflection against Vancouver, miss hit one timer against Colorado. Many of these were not going in earlier. Hope the luck continues but I don’t think OV is playing radically different hockey.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I think people are overreacting a little bit to this hot streak. Not that I’m not loving it. But his shooting percentage was so low earlier in the year. Now pucks that should not go in are. Weird deflection against Vancouver, miss hit one timer against Colorado. Many of these were not going in earlier. Hope the luck continues but I don’t think OV is playing radically different hockey.

He had 25 shots in 10 games in Jan. He has 19 in 5 in February…..he’s doing something….

….”radically different“ seems like an exaggeration however….

 

[HTFN]

He had 25 shots in 10 games in Jan. He has 19 in 5 in February…..he’s doing something….

Exactly, and it could be a lot of stuff.

It could be "f*** it, if it's not coming easy I'm working for them", it could be that he got a little respite from his injury (which I've maintained was real for quite some time) or it could be statistics just equalizing because this dude had a lot of posts and offside goals earlier. You take them, and I see good signs overall.

plus he's been weird because this has maybe been the first major blow to his confidence since the Olympics. This streak might just snap that.

Edit: well, Hunter Hockey too

 

[Jags]

It's got to be a unique streak now going 6 games with a goal while losing all of those games, never-mind the team is on a total 8 game skid. I actually don't even recall a player on a goal streak of 4+ where his team lost every game

*shrug* We need more high draft picks and we're living for 895 in the meantime. So a reality where Ovi starts scoring goals again and we're losing doesn't sound so bad to me. That may sound defeatist, but I want us to rebuild this thing the right way.

We might not be in this situation if our top 2 centers weren't in me-first mode this year (Backstrom understandably, Kuznetsov back to the snootjuice). So maybe it's a little bit that Ovi's less in "let's win it all mode" and now more in "Okay, if everyone's quitting I may as well prioritize my goal pace."

He's been very generous all year (and more over his career than he gets credit for). If the fix is in on the tank, I wouldn't blame him for shifting gears and just looking to score.

I think people are overreacting a little bit to this hot streak. Not that I’m not loving it. But his shooting percentage was so low earlier in the year. Now pucks that should not go in are.

Nah, that's just the law of averages. There's ALWAYS the bounces and odd shit that break your way or don't, and sometimes those instances line up into "streaks" that aren't real. In the NHL, real "luck" means putting yourself in positions to be lucky. You have to take the shots, crash the net, create chaos, and take those "maybe I can knock it in off that guy's skate" chances that pop up here and there. Do more of that stuff and you'll be "luckier."

"Bah, that guy gets all the bounces!" No, that guy's just doing all the things.

You want bounces? Get bouncy.

 

[WingsFan95]

*shrug* We need more high draft picks and we're living for 895 in the meantime. So a reality where Ovi starts scoring goals again and we're losing doesn't sound so bad to me. That may sound defeatist, but I want us to rebuild this thing the right way.

We might not be in this situation if our top 2 centers weren't in me-first mode this year (Backstrom understandably, Kuznetsov back to the snootjuice). So maybe it's a little bit that Ovi's less in "let's win it all mode" and now more in "Okay, if everyone's quitting I may as well prioritize my goal pace."

He's been very generous all year (and more over his career than he gets credit for). If the fix is in on the tank, I wouldn't blame him for shifting gears and just looking to score.

Well said. He might hit 30 now.

 

[BallardEra]

8 goals in his first 43 games.

8 goals in his last 8 games.


21 points in his last 18 games. (10 goals, 11 assists)

 

[RedRocking]

So what do we think is his o/u for the year?

With 28 games left @ his career rate of .6, it would be another 16 (32 total). I doubt he hits that though.

I’ll go with a .4 rate, and set it at 27. Though I’d probably still take the under (barely). Prove me wrong, Ovi!

 

[Raikkonen]

So what do we think is his o/u for the year?

With 28 games left @ his career rate of .6, it would be another 16 (32 total). I doubt he hits that though.

I’ll go with a .4 rate, and set it at 27. Though I’d probably still take the under (barely). Prove me wrong, Ovi!

That would be fantastic.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

So what do we think is his o/u for the year?

With 28 games left @ his career rate of .6, it would be another 16 (32 total). I doubt he hits that though.

I’ll go with a .4 rate, and set it at 27. Though I’d probably still take the under (barely). Prove me wrong, Ovi!

I think if he is close to 30, he makes a big push to reach that mark. His yearly objective to reach Gretzky at the time he signed his current contract was to score 33 goals per season, so I imagine he is targeting that number.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Ovie on a heater and the haters are quiet.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Ovie on a heater and the haters are quiet.

But always lurking…..

 

[BallardEra]

Ovechkin beat the statistical model from 2015:

Statistical model predicts Ovechkin could hit 836 by age 39.

Rob Vollman is a pioneer in the field of hockey analytics and the co-author of Hockey Abstract. His innovations include Player Usage Charts on Home Plate Save Percentage. He will contribute a regular column to NHL.com throughout this season. Washington Capitals forward Alexander Ovechkin is...

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[YippieKaey]

I haven't watched any of the last 8 games, so i guess i can never watch again until Ovi scores 895.

 

[ClevelandCapsfan]

Ovie on a heater and the haters are quiet.

Sorry but his skating and defense still leave much to be desired. Not that we ever paid him for his defense, though.

 

[ovikovy817]

I haven't watched any of the last 8 games, so i guess i can never watch again until Ovi scores 895.

I like this commitment

 

[twabby]

I haven't watched any of the last 8 games, so i guess i can never watch again until Ovi scores 895.

Same

 

[g00n]

Sorry but his skating and defense still leave much to be desired. Not that we ever paid him for his defense, though.

Do you need a hug?

 

[Fred22406Capsfan]

I haven't watched any of the last 8 games, so i guess i can never watch again until Ovi scores 895.

Way to take one for the chase!

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Sorry but his skating and defense still leave much to be desired. Not that we ever paid him for his defense, though.

You must be fun at parties… lol

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Sorry but his skating and defense still leave much to be desired. Not that we ever paid him for his defense, though.

I can only hope you’re kidding.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Same

Twabby, you don't watch any games! If ya did, then you wouldn't be slobbering all over analytics!

 

[twabby]

Twabby, you don't watch any games! If ya did, then you wouldn't be slobbering all over analytics!

 

[HTFN]

lol wrong thread