Rumor: Alexander Nikishin contract dispute?

[Nikishin al Gaib]

It's amusing how many comments have been made to try and clown the front office when this all got finalized in exactly the timeline that Tulsky publicly stated would happen.

It wasn't registered because we wanted to leave open the option to play in the AHL to get him experience before throwing him out there at the NHL level.

The Wolves were eliminated last night, so that option is no longer viable. As such, the signed contract was registered today.

But yes, obviously the complete transparency and timelines aligning is proof of a dysfunctional front office, lol

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

Excellent! Now we get to see him play.

Yep, would expect to see him in the lineup tomorrow, especially after the 2OT game last night

 

[Armourboy]

How exactly lol?

We're simply amazed by how amateurish the Carolina Hurricanes looked like in that whole process

Didn't see anything amateur about it. I saw a team working through its options. What I also saw was once again people from the great land of hockey thinking they knew exactly what was going on when they had no clue and blowing up something way out of proportion once again in a non-traditional market.

Notice Canes fans, Preds fans, etc. didn't even bat an eye at it? We've all seen this mess a hundred times.

 

[bleedgreen]

I mean…you should care? Shipachev came over for a year and then bolted back when he didn’t get the type of role he wanted. He could demand a trade or just go back to the KHL if he feels his talents aren’t being used properly.

You are acting like this is a 19 year old rookie signing his ELC. Niki shin is the same age as Sanderson and Faber and I’m sure he wants to be trrated accordingly.

Lol Ship was much older wasn’t he? Even if he wasn’t I just don’t see the connection. Ship got legitimately screwed over and never really used right. Nikishin is in the top four starting next season for an unknown length of time. He’s going to be used plenty. There’s no threat of him going back because the Canes are his way back in unless he really wants to stay in Russia. Which he obviously doesn’t.

If he can’t handle sitting back for one week to let the team that got us here have their chance then who would want him? That attitude wouldn’t last five minutes with RBA anyways, I’d trade him for any of these good players people are offering for him. It’s not that I don’t really care about the guy, I’m just not remotely concerned about any of these issues you’re coming with. They clearly went over all the options with the guy. He knew what was going on when he got here.

Y’all are acting like he’s being treated cruelly. He’s with the team just waiting for his chance.

 

[bleedgreen]

It seems the issue is contract status.

Nikishin didn’t travel half-way around the world for Carolina to not register his contract. Nobody wants to sit around in limbo, with their thumb up their rear-end, with no contract, not knowing if they’ll be sent to the AHL or play in the SC playoffs.

And even if he doesnt play, register his contract and treat him like he’s a valuable member of the team.

You have to be not paying attention to the details at all, not follow the canes, and just want to be someone who wants to shit on the Canes for funsies to think this is about the contract when everyone available is saying it’s not. He’s not in limbo, he’s practicing with the team. I’m sure he feels like a valuable member of the team, as much as he can at this point. My lord, you know he’s been making probably more money in the KHL than he’s going to get on his elc, right?

While I don’t blindly agree with what the Canes or RBA does all the time, there’s nothing wrong here. There’s no secrets. People want to believe the click bait. Go ahead. Personally I have zero concern that the guy is being mistreated or left in limbo. I feel comfortable the team is in pretty constant communication with him and making him as welcome as they can. He’ll play when the coach thinks it’s the right time. Which I’m fine with in this case.

 

[bleedgreen]

Coaches make horrible choices all of the time. Just because someone won a Jack Adam’s means nothing

Again, multiple posts about the Jack Adam’s comment with no context or reply to the actual issues.

What’s your point?

 

[bleedgreen]

Didn't see anything amateur about it. I saw a team working through its options. What I also saw was once again people from the great land of hockey thinking they knew exactly what was going on when they had no clue and blowing up something way out of proportion once again in a non-traditional market.

Notice Canes fans, Preds fans, etc. didn't even bat an eye at it? We've all seen this mess a hundred times.

No no, knock it off with your common sense.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Again, multiple posts about the Jack Adam’s comment with no context or reply to the actual issues.

What’s your point?

You’re the one implying just because he’s the coach it’s the right decision big guy. That is far from the case in many situations

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

You have to be not paying attention to the details at all, not follow the canes, and just want to be someone who wants to shit on the Canes for funsies to think this is about the contract when everyone available is saying it’s not. He’s not in limbo, he’s practicing with the team. I’m sure he feels like a valuable member of the team, as much as he can at this point. My lord, you know he’s been making probably more money in the KHL than he’s going to get on his elc, right?

While I don’t blindly agree with what the Canes or RBA does all the time, there’s nothing wrong here. There’s no secrets. People want to believe the click bait. Go ahead. Personally I have zero concern that the guy is being mistreated or left in limbo. I feel comfortable the team is in pretty constant communication with him and making him as welcome as they can. He’ll play when the coach thinks it’s the right time. Which I’m fine with in this case.

It is so weird to watch you comment so positively about the decisions of the franchise and how we view it.

I need a shower

 

[bleedgreen]

You’re the one implying just because he’s the coach it’s the right decision big guy. That is far from the case in many situations

I don't agree with a lot of his decisions. I just dont think i'm a better coach than him, and a lot of this thread has been directed at the Canes organization in general when it should be about RBA and his decision to not play the guy. The amount of success he's had as our coach goes pretty far beyond that one title which should be inherent and obvious but sure....coaches who only had one good season have also won the award. Strong point?

If you follow the team or the coach at all it was obvious the guy wasnt going to just jump in was the actual point and that the coach has earned that right. Even if the mob disagrees.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

obviously this signing was gonna happen

 

[bleedgreen]

It is so weird to watch you comment so positively about the decisions of the franchise and how we view it.

I need a shower

Lol why?

 

[MoneyManny]

Tell him to stay in the KHL and...not play games there? His team's season was over. He had the option to play more games by coming over to Carolina. He took that option.

Yeah and 99% of the time, the team signs the contract and burns a year off the ELC regardless instead of dicking the player around and possibly burn bridges with them for extremely dubious gains.

That's how asshole GMs treat career AHLers with few options, because they can. Not the best hockey talent outside the NHL.

 

[Garbageyuk]

Montreal should be all over this

Would be incredibly expensive for a guy who’s still a mystery box at the end of the day. Too risky for me.

Guarantee they’d be asking for one of the following:

Slafkovsky+
Reinbacher++
Demidov
Hage + both 1st round picks in ‘25

I might consider the last one, but that’s also the one CAR would likely be least interested in. All the others would be a non-starter for me.

 

[bleedgreen]

Yeah and 99% of the time, the team signs the contract and burns a year off the ELC regardless instead of dicking the player around and possibly burn bridges with them for extremely dubious gains.

That's how asshole GMs treat career AHLers with few options, because they can. Not the best hockey talent outside the NHL.

But....he did sign a contract. Today. The day after the Wolves were eliminated. As expected. There's zero reason to think there was any miscommunication between the player and the team. They werent waiting in an effort to not burn a year, they were waiting to see if they needed to get him a game or two in the AHL while RBA isn't playing him yet. Really isnt a tough concept. Tulsky has already said today that the team and agents agreed on this process. No secrets or scheming, everything was straightforward and right out in the open.

 

[MoneyManny]

But....he did sign a contract. Today. The day after the Wolves were eliminated. As expected. There's zero reason to think there was any miscommunication between the player and the team. They werent waiting in an effort to not burn a year, they were waiting to see if they needed to get him a game or two in the AHL while RBA isn't playing him yet. Really isnt a tough concept. Tulsky has already said today that the team and agents agreed on this process. No secrets or scheming, everything was straightforward and right out in the open.

It's pretty obvious they were waiting to register to try and save a year ocf the ELC dude, there's 0 other possible reasons to hold out on registering the contract.

No schemes sure, they were open about it, but still a shitty move imo and more importantly a worse treatment than his peers usually get.

 

[Captain97]

It's pretty obvious they were waiting to register to try and save a year ocf the ELC dude, there's 0 other possible reasons to hold out on registering the contract.

No schemes sure, they were open about it, but still a shitty move imo and more importantly a worse treatment than his peers usually get.

This feels like it to me as well. Because the yeat gets burned whether he plays or not.

 

[spockBokk]

It's pretty obvious they were waiting to register to try and save a year ocf the ELC dude, there's 0 other possible reasons to hold out on registering the contract.

No schemes sure, they were open about it, but still a shitty move imo and more importantly a worse treatment than his peers usually get.

While I agree they should have just signed him. How can you say they were trying to delay when they signed him officially the day after their AHL affiliate’s season was done?

Were he signed to a standard NHL SPC, AHL off the table. That’s the reason for the delay, clearly communicated. I don’t agree with it and think that them holding off on registering the contract was stupid, but your accusations against the Canes seem completely unfounded.

 

[Garbageyuk]

It's pretty obvious they were waiting to register to try and save a year ocf the ELC dude, there's 0 other possible reasons to hold out on registering the contract.

No schemes sure, they were open about it, but still a shitty move imo and more importantly a worse treatment than his peers usually get.

In other words, it comes down to penny pinching. Again. Nothing new with them.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

In other words, it comes down to penny pinching. Again. Nothing new with them.

It didn't. You're wrong. The GM told everyone why they handled things the way they did. It had zero to do with money.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

There's little reason to think that they were ever going squeeze him into a 2 year ELC. Not 1 month ago. Not 1 day ago. A prospect of that caliber has that kind of leverage. Given his age, it's not all that beneficial for the organization either. The GM publicly commented on how he would not be eligible for arbitration at the end of an ELC starting this season.

 

[JadedRandom]

Would be incredibly expensive for a guy who’s still a mystery box at the end of the day. Too risky for me.

Guarantee they’d be asking for one of the following:

Slafkovsky+
Reinbacher++
Demidov
Hage + both 1st round picks in ‘25

I might consider the last one, but that’s also the one CAR would likely be least interested in. All the others would be a non-starter for me.

Nikishin would require a lot of value back in a trade, but #16 + #17 + Hage would be a definite overpayment.

Same for all the other proposals.

I figure that Carolina would rather do a 1-for-1 trade for help on D if they can't sign Nikishin, or he asks for a trade and goes back to Russia.

And if it came down to it, I don't know if the Canadiens would be willing to offer a guy like Guhle straight-up for Nikishin.

I would be down for it personally, I'm very high on Nikishin, higher than I am on Guhle.

But I think Habs management might not want to "rock the boat" on a trade implicating a much-loved teammate and big part of the Canadiens' future in Kaiden Guhle.

 

[WarriorofTime]

He needs to play Game 4 imo. I'd recommend they go 11F/7D and sit one of Eric Robinson or William Carrier.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

It's pretty obvious they were waiting to register to try and save a year ocf the ELC dude, there's 0 other possible reasons to hold out on registering the contract.

No schemes sure, they were open about it, but still a shitty move imo and more importantly a worse treatment than his peers usually get.

So you agree that they were open about their intentions and that it played out like they said it would, but it must be because of this other thing that you believe was happening and not that they were telling the truth the entire time?

 

[Garbageyuk]

Nikishin would require a lot of value back in a trade, but #16 + #17 + Hage would be a definite overpayment.

Same for all the other proposals.

I figure that Carolina would rather do a 1-for-1 trade for help on D if they can't sign Nikishin, or he asks for a trade and goes back to Russia.

And if it came down to it, I don't know if the Canadiens would be willing to offer a guy like Guhle straight-up for Nikishin.

I would be down for it personally, I'm very high on Nikishin, higher than I am on Guhle.

But I think Habs management might not want to "rock the boat" on a trade implicating a much-loved teammate and big part of the Canadiens' future in Kaiden Guhle.

They are overpayments (mostly due to the risk/unknown factor), and that’s why I wouldn’t be interested. Nikishin is seen as the best prospect outside the NHL, and has extremely projectable qualities, and as good a resume as a player outside the NHL can have. Why wouldn’t CAR try to capitalize on that if they had to trade him? They would for sure be asking for packages like that.