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Rumor: Alexander Nikishin contract dispute?

PatriceBergeronFan said:
No one following. Just an odd assortment of low quality trolling attempts on the Bruins over the years and as a Carolina fan it is most peculiar. Aside from the Scott Walker suckerpunch on Aaron Ward has there been anything memorable between the two teams in the last 20 years?

The Bruins are rather unlikely to be a bottom ten team for 5+ seasons, so add this to the list.
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I lived in Boston for much of the last 2 decades and have seen a ton of the team's games for a non-fan and talk to plenty of friends and colleagues who watch every single game and all of my opinions about the team and organization are based off of what I've seen and are objective, not trolling. I have plenty of strong hockey opinion in general, and yes I'm wrong about plenty just like everyone is, but there are also plenty of things I've been right about. You can disagree with those opinions without constantly following me around and attacking me and accusing me of trolling (not just you but there have been a handful of bruins fans doing so over the years).

Maybe so, but as it sits right now the bruins have very little talent in the pipeline and some bad contracts, not to mention a weak front office that the majority of your own fans are pissed off about ownership keeping around. But hey maybe they get lucky with some top 5 picks the next few years and hit on a few. But more likely is a prolonged stretch of missing the playoffs.
 
Gravity said:
Why? You have an NHL caliber D ready to help in the POs and instead you sit him out and piss him off.
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I don’t understand the Canes’ thinking on this either. But they did get him to sign the contract, apparently. It must be difficult for the player trying to understand what is going on, that’s for sure.
 
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Gravity said:
Why? You have an NHL caliber D ready to help in the POs and instead you sit him out and piss him off.
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There is no guarantee that this guy is ready to jump right into NHL playoffs action right away.
Its a lot easier to hide guys like Demidov while they adjust but a Dman doesnt get the luxury of making mistakes.

That was an immature post by Nikishin camp. Work things out in closed doors without slinging mud publicly at NHL organizations.
 
Draiskull said:
There is no guarantee that this guy is ready to jump right into NHL playoffs action right away.
Its a lot easier to hide guys like Demidov while they adjust but a Dman doesnt get the luxury of making mistakes.

That was an immature post by Nikishin camp. Work things out in closed doors without slinging mud publicly at NHL organizations.
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You'd be hard pressed to convince me in good faith that he isn't better than Ghostisbehere right now.
 
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Gravity said:
You'd be hard pressed to convince me in good faith that he isn't better than Ghostisbehere right now.
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Dont watch much Canes hockey but the fact that Ghost has been playing and practicing with the team all year and has been averaging 20mins/night in playoffs experience gives him an edge over a rookie from overseas.

adding this wildcard to provide the team a jolt after a loss makes total sense though. Maybe as a 7th D instead of trusting him with 18mins TOI in a critical game.
 
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Draiskull said:
There is no guarantee that this guy is ready to jump right into NHL playoffs action right away.
Its a lot easier to hide guys like Demidov while they adjust but a Dman doesnt get the luxury of making mistakes.

That was an immature post by Nikishin camp. Work things out in closed doors without slinging mud publicly at NHL organizations.
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Is it mudslinging? Or is it pointing out the organization is muddy?
 
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Gravity said:
Why? You have an NHL caliber D ready to help in the POs and instead you sit him out and piss him off.
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The only one "pissed off" was the agent in Russia, who hasn't had contact with Nikishin since he came over to the US. The Russian agent wanted the contract signed because he wanted his cut of the money. That's it.

Both Nikishin and his American agent were well aware of the situation the Canes were debating and knew it would get resolved one way or the other when Chicago's season ended...and it did.
 
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Draiskull said:
Dont watch much Canes hockey but the fact that Ghost has been playing and practicing with the team all year and has been averaging 20mins/night in playoffs experience gives him an edge over a rookie from overseas.

adding this wildcard to provide the team a jolt after a loss makes total sense though. Maybe as a 7th D instead of trusting him with 18mins TOI in a critical game.
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If that's the case then why bring him over at all? It's a huge waste of his time.

If you need one of your shitty bottom pairing D to get injured to let your star NHL-ready prospect get a game, then just tell him to stay in the KHL and report to camp in the fall.
 
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Blueline Bomber said:
The only one "pissed off" was the agent in Russia, who hasn't had contact with Nikishin since he came over to the US. The Russian agent wanted the contract signed because he wanted his cut of the money. That's it.

Both Nikishin and his American agent were well aware of the situation the Canes were debating and knew it would get resolved one way or the other when Chicago's season ended...and it did.
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You just made up a bunch of motivations and feelings of the involved parties that have not been reported anywhere lol
 
norrisnick said:
Is it mudslinging? Or is it pointing out the organization is muddy?
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saying "at this time we cannot comment because the clubs's actions defy common sense" while posting this comment on twitter is mudslinging. Threatning to 'go back' or demand trade is just dumb from this agent.

imagine if all players agents made their frustrations public like this in every tough negotiation cases.

Good for gossip loving media and us on hfboards but not the best for the players or teams involved
 
RedHawkDown said:
You just made up a bunch of motivations and feelings of the involved parties that have not been reported anywhere lol
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No, I'm doing the opposite, actually. Since the original poster claimed Nikishin was "pissed off" and there's no indication of that. The only one who we know was upset about the situation was his Russian agent.
 
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RedHawkDown said:
If that's the case then why bring him over at all? It's a huge waste of his time.

If you need one of your shitty bottom pairing D to get injured to let your star NHL-ready prospect get a game, then just tell him to stay in the KHL and report to camp in the fall.
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Tell him to stay in the KHL and...not play games there? His team's season was over. He had the option to play more games by coming over to Carolina. He took that option.
 
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Blueline Bomber said:
No, I'm doing the opposite, actually. Since the original poster claimed Nikishin was "pissed off" and there's no indication of that. The only one who we know was upset about the situation was his Russian agent.
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You have abscribed a bunch of motivations and reasons to the agent and insinuated that Nikishin himself is happy without any reports or indication of any of that being true. The ONLY piece of reporting that exists is the KHL guy being upset and the US guy saying "we're sorting things out". The US guy actually didn't say something like "Alex is aware of the situation and has no issue with the front offices' decisions" which he very easily could have if Nikishin wasn't upset at all.

You've simply decided to invent reasons to believe the narrative that there's no issue and come up with reasons ("wants to get paid") to discredit the narrative that there is an issue.
 
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Blueline Bomber said:
The only one "pissed off" was the agent in Russia, who hasn't had contact with Nikishin since he came over to the US. The Russian agent wanted the contract signed because he wanted his cut of the money. That's it.

Both Nikishin and his American agent were well aware of the situation the Canes were debating and knew it would get resolved one way or the other when Chicago's season ended...and it did.
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If I were to believe that, it would be certainly be a very unique situation since many players have come over from the KHL and signed NHL deals or ELCs but this is the first time I hear of such an outcome.

In addition to the Rantanen debacle, you may be right that Carolina's FO issues vis-a-vis disgruntled players/agents are purely correlative and not causative but the more and more such reports come out, I become inclined to believe that FO is shadier/more mismanaged than they appear.
 
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RedHawkDown said:
You just made up a bunch of motivations and feelings of the involved parties that have not been reported anywhere lol
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Actually they have, its been stated several times here that they were holding off registering it because it gave them options. That came from both the Canes and his agents. The only other option they had was playing him in the AHL, but it was a 3 game series and they had already lost one, so it made no sense to do it for one AHL game. Once the AHL team was put out there is only one option, you either register the contract to play him in the NHL or you don't and risk the outcome of that.

Based on the couple of post from the organization and his US agents they knew exactly what was going on. Whether the Russian agent really knew what the details were is anyone's guess at this point.
 
Blueline Bomber said:
Tell him to stay in the KHL and...not play games there? His team's season was over. He had the option to play more games by coming over to Carolina. He took that option.
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Isn’t he practicing with Canes? That’s an important start. He gets to know the players, coaches, and systems. And how they do things.
 
Gravity said:
If I were to believe that, it would be certainly be a very unique situation since many players have come over from the KHL and signed NHL deals or ELCs but this is the first time I hear of such an outcome.

In addition to the Rantanen debacle, you may be right that Carolina's FO issues vis-a-vis disgruntled players/agents are purely correlative and not causative but the more and more such reports come out, I become inclined to believe that FO is shadier/more mismanaged than they appear.
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Oh, don't get me wrong. Carolina's owner is a giant pain in the ass, and there have definitely been situations in the past where he's caused trouble by being too involved. But, just like the Rantanen situation, I don't think the FO is to blame here.

In this one, there's no indication the player is disgruntled in any way. The only report we have of anyone being upset is his agent in Russia, and we had other reports basically saying "That agent is trying to save his job because he didn't get Nikishin over to the US in time to play regular season games".

 
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