Syckle78
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lol No. His defensive play is overrated and when you need to fill in the majority of your post with team accomplishment fluff you should just stop.
Alex Ovechkin hits 700 career NHL goals!
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crosby is not the 5th best player of all time. team stats are just that- the guys around you. Pittsburgh has had better talent around crosby than Washington has had under ovechkin. hence 3 cups to 1. but we're not comparing pittsburgh to Washington. we';re comparing crosby as an individual to Ovechkin as an individual. If we compare them on Goals ovechkin has a solid lead of 242 goals. Assists Crosby has 794 Ovechkin 570. basically Crosby;s assist lead cancels out the Ovechin lead in goals to the point where crosby is only 18 points behind Alex. Neither of them are approaching 2000 total points. someone might pass Gretzky in goals but his total points of 2857 and the assists record of 1963 are untouchable. Thorton is the active assists leader, and hes still nearly nine HUNDRED assists away. Gretzky has more assists than anyone else has points.
Nah. It was a different time for everyone, even the athlete fitness. Plus they knocked your ass down back then.
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Capitals have better talent, difference is that Ovechkin over the past 10 years needs an elite linemate to be successful. Caps would have several cups if they ran Ovechkin, Backstrom, Kuznetsov as their 3 lines over the past few years. Penguins have stonewalled the Caps several times because Crosby had been able to manage 2 of the Caps big weapons by himself, leaving Malkin to clean up the garbage.
SealsFan4Life
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Lol they still knock your ass down, that's why Crosby and Malkin can't string together a full season if their lives depended on it
Ovechkin would still be the highest tank in the 80s just as he is now
Caught the Caps Coyotes game. Think the Caps need to worry more about winning games and less about feeding O the puck.
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Considering I saw Ovi drop the puck backwards while in the slot against COL, I don't think 700 is the only thing he (or they) care about. They know their season is currently in a funk the last 20 games.
I think the media is the one blowing 700 up, for obvious reasons.
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Just relax. Ovie is saving it for home ice. Ted is planning to have a big celebration and parade after number 700! Having it happen at home is most important now, Ovechkin is very loyal to Ted and vice versa. But Ovie will probably try for 699 on the road to set it up real easy for DC.
Malkin is injury prone. Crosby not so much. Last 6 seasons averaged 79 regular season games. Crosby's injuries clustered earlier in his career, over 2-3 seasons I think. But those seasons he missed a lot of games.
edog37
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Those were teams he lead. Part of the equation. Kinda like Steve Yzerman or Mark Messier. 5th GOAT.
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You're kidding, right? Ovechkin would have been a monster in the 80s at 6'3", 235 lbs. No one would have been knocking his ass down; he would have fought several times and made his space and been the original power forward. Yes, an even better example than oft-celebrated Cam Neely.
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If you really think Sidney Crosby is 5th GOAT in the NHL as of February 16, 2020, you cannot be taken seriously about a number of things hockey-related.
I think if he gets a few goals in Vegas then that would be another top career moment for him at our arena even though it has only been around a few years of his career.
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edog37
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yes he is. Sorry you don’t appreciate greatness when you see it.
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There's a difference between appreciating greatness (I never said he wasn't a great player, I've gone to bat to defend him from detractors in the past) and being delusional (saying he's the 5th-best player ever in the NHL).
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It clearly shows your bias when you decide for all GMs to chose great center regardless their need. A lot of teams have 1/2 legit centers, getting an epic winger would be better for them. With many great centers in the league, great winger is the rare breed today.
If you mean that all Gms will prefer Crosby to start a team, it doesn't prove his better either, because at equal talent, GM picks center over winger. At equal talent, GM will pick Canadian over Russian. You can't really use this argument.
Without saying that picking Ovy or Crosby won't get you stanley cup without champion team. And even if they will get SC in future, it doesn't mean the choice was right since you can't prove if with other one you wouldn't get it faster.
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edog37
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based on accomplishment the argument is valid. Sid checks all the boxes needed.
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Both have different styles of play. that said, If I was building a cup winning team, 87 gets the first nod. And I love Alex.
His peak offensive level of play was arguably just as high as Malkin's level in 11/12 while playing a better 2-way game. That he looked like he was at his peak over multiple seasons is definitely a "check"
If you want to play the "raw numbers only" game, then he has the best Art Ross win since Wayne in 91/92 in 13/14 when he beat 2nd place by over 20%.
