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Player Discussion Alex Newhook (Part 2) : Book an Appointment with New Look Edition

ChesterNimitz said:
On a team that has a roster filled with too many average , if not mediocre skaters ( Laine, Savard, Xhekaj, Armia, Gallagher, Dvorak, Slafkovsky) Newhook provides the essential element of speed. While he will never be high scorer, Newhook’s 200 foot speed opens up the ice for his line makes as opponents have to respect Newhook’s skating when he’s carrying the puck, breaking for open ice or on the forecheck. Ask yourself: how many other forwards do we have who can play the slingshot role on the power play effectively once Suzuki gets tired? In a couple of years it may be Demidov or, more probably, Hage. But right now, it’s Newhook.
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His speed is burning, he often gets to his own dump in several seconds before the defender to win the puck and start a cycle. That is so invaluable
 
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OneSharpMarble said:
He's the one who gained the zone and forchecked hard enough to create the chance to score the first goal. He was driving the play on his line all night. He also caused Washington to draw a penalty in the first and then another one later.

It makes sense, you're bitter and trying to downplay his game so you look less foolish. Be less salty and try to watch the game without your bias.
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No he didn’t. 😂
He didn’t draw one half way through the second period. Which coincidentally goes with exactly what I’m saying, he had a good second half after a bad first half. Not sure why you’re arguing this since you clearly weren’t paying attention enough to be even having this conversation.
He killed the ozone possession multiple times in the first and took a penalty after a bad giveaway. He started playing better in the second half. You ignoring the reality of the first half his game being the same usual bad play, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Done bickering with you, facts are facts no matter how you try and manipulate them.

Also, I was the first one to come in here and praising him for finally not sucking when he had a good second half. So your argument makes zero sense.
 
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Dagistitsyn said:
No he didn’t. 😂
He drew one half way through the second period. You clearly weren’t paying attention enough to be even having this conversation.
He killed the ozone possession multiple times in the first and took a penalty after a bad giveaway. He started playing better in the second half. You ignoring the reality of the first half his game being the same usual bad play, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Done bickering with you, facts are facts no matter how you try and manipulate them.

Also, I was the first one to come in here and praising him for finally not sucking when he had a good second half. So your argument makes zero sense.
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Wow you were the first one with your backhanded compliment, you want a award or something? You also make up a bunch of nonsense about him killing all these drives is just sad.

Ok have a good day, don't go all Tom Wilson when someone stands up to your nonsense.
 
OneSharpMarble said:
Wow you were the first one with your backhanded compliment, you want a award or something? You also make up a bunch of nonsense about him killing all these drives is just sad.

Ok have a good day, don't go all Tom Wilson when someone stands up to your nonsense.
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Again, presented with facts that go against your claims and you ignore them because you made yourself look dumb, and respond with this random bullshit. 😂

Have a good day, OneSlowMarble
 
The Great Weal said:
How many NHL forwards break out at 24/25 years old?
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I guess it depends on what you mean by ‘break out’.

This guy failed his audition as a top sixer. That’s okay. Put him in a different chair and he might be a lot better. He’s brutal in terms of finish but great at getting plays into the opposing end. He brings creativity but can’t finish. That’s a third line role. Just put him there and hope he can refine his skills.
 
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OneSharpMarble said:
You claiming something as fact doesn't make it a fact, figure it out.
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But reality / the box score does. Take a look if you’re misremembering the game (mod). Figure it out. 😂
You said he drew a penalty in the first and was a driving force. I said he took a bad penalty in the first after his own bad giveaway, didn’t draw one until half way through the second. Had a couple bad giveaways in the first, which were when we had possession until the puck went on his stick. Had good shot opportunities that missed the net.

Had a good second half of the game.
These are all facts whether you try and manipulate them to fit your narrative or not. lol
 
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Andy said:
His speed is burning, he often gets to his own dump in several seconds before the defender to win the puck and start a cycle. That is so invaluable
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This is absolutely correct . He actually blows by defenders on the dump-in like they are stuck in mud.

I cringe when I read how so many here want to rid ourselves of this player. As I have said repeatedly over the near quarter of a century that I have been posting here, you trade away elite skating skill like Newhook possesses at your franchise's peril.
 
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But reality / the box score does. Take a look if you’re misremembering the game (mod).
You said he drew a penalty in the first and was a driving force. I said he took a penalty in the first, didn’t draw one until half way through the second. Had a couple bad giveaways in the first, which were when we had possession until the puck went on his stick. Had good shot attempts that missed the net.

Had a good second half of the game.
These are all facts whether you try and manipulate them to fit your narrative or not. lol
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I thought you were done but you're still here crying? You are really desperate to take away any credit from the guy you can. (Mod)

It's ok, you're mad but like I said just because you say he was killing plays and giving away the puck doesn't make it so. Be better.
 
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OneSharpMarble said:
I thought you were done but you're still here crying? You are really desperate to take away any credit from the guy you can. Did newhook bang your wife or something?

It's ok, you're mad but like I said just because you say he was killing plays and giving away the puck doesn't make it so. Be better.
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Again, trying to derail the conversation topic to avoid the fact that you’re wrong and make up some imaginary narrative to suit your dumbass fabricated argument.
I’m not crying at all, sorry I’m proving with actual facts what you said was incorrect and I’m sorry you don’t like it / can’t acknowledge it and need to resort to petty comments to avoid it. (mod)

You got it twisted if you think I want Newhook to fail. I’m just frustrated like countless others with plays dying on his stick, fumbling good scoring opportunities, making bad decisions with the puck 90% of the time. If he starts playing better consistently I’ll happily eat crow and support him.
 
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Dagistitsyn said:
Again, trying to derail the conversation topic to avoid the fact that you’re wrong and make up some imaginary narrative to suit your dumbass fabricated argument.
I’m not crying at all, sorry I’m proving with actual facts what you said was incorrect and I’m sorry you don’t like it / can’t acknowledge it and need to resort to petty comments to avoid it. Doesnt make you look like any less of a dumbass, but you do you.

You got it twisted if you think I want Newhook to fail. I’m just frustrated like countless others with plays dying on his stick, fumbling good scoring opportunities, making bad decisions with the puck 90% of the time. If he starts playing better consistently I’ll happily eat crow and support him.
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You saying he was turning the puck over constantly and killing drives is just you making up garbage, he was counted for 0 giveaways that whole game so how are you not living in a fantasy world exactly?

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Frank Drebin said:
Quite a few
Datsyuk , todd bertuzzi, sedins, nikushkin, hyman, sam reinhart, marchand was almost 30, jt miller same thing

I can probably find a lot more these are all of the top of my head
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Yeah but I don't think we should count on Newhook for anything in the top six. I think in a different chair he might be a lot better though.

Glad we gave him the chance. We had to see if he could do it. This was an audition year for a lot of guys. He clearly isn't somebody to count on offensively. He might improve and that's awesome. But we need to build a 2nd line without him. He can fill in as an injury replacement or something like that. But his chair is bottom six.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Yeah but I don't think we should count on Newhook for anything in the top six. I think in a different chair he might be a lot better though.
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We shouldn't count on Newhook becoming a top-6 player, but we also shouldn't rule out the possibility either. He's got the tools, has shown for stretches that he can be, but has also had a lot of struggles. Nobody knows one way or the other how things will develop so best to just keep an open mind about things.
 
Sorinth said:
We shouldn't count on Newhook becoming a top-6 player, but we also shouldn't rule out the possibility either. He's got the tools, has shown for stretches that he can be, but has also had a lot of struggles. Nobody knows one way or the other how things will develop so best to just keep an open mind about things.
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I think he's a bottom sixer who you bring up when there's an injury.
 
Frank Drebin said:
Quite a few
Datsyuk , todd bertuzzi, sedins, nikushkin, hyman, sam reinhart, marchand was almost 30, jt miller same thing

I can probably find a lot more these are all of the top of my head
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It definitely happens. He’s not a bad candidate for at least a significant bump in production and play. He’s got plenty of tools
 
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