Player Discussion Alex Newhook (Part 2) : Book an Appointment with New Look Edition
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Flipped one to Tampa for Ross Colton and then used the other one to draft a somewhat promising dman currently in the KHL.
26Mats
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Prime ross colton looking better than Newhook will ever be...
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BullLund
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The ice seems to be bad for him every game.
Dagistitsyn
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Watching this guy play for the Canadiens has been insufferable.
One of the most overrated, awful players I’ve been forced to watch continue to get ice time in many, many years. Can not believe the amount of people that get fooled by his speed into thinking he does anything to help the team because he’s flying around out there.
Fumbles every scoring opportunity, can’t hit the net to save his life even when he has time to rip a shot, can’t pass, never has his stick on the ice to receive a good pass, can’t win face offs, not good defensively, no hockey IQ.
Literally just fast skater with no brain. That’s it.
4th line LW at best. Anything else is an unfair punishment to whoever has to play along side him.
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26Mats
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If you look at our current bottom six wingers, can he beat out: Anderson, Gallagher, Armia, or Heineman? I don't think so.
At C, can he beat put Evan's or Dvo? I don't think so.
Dagistitsyn
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Exactly, and we have him centering the second line in playoffs. Brutal. I pray to god they trade him this off season. Package him for Crouse, who looks like he needs a change of scenery too.
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Playoffs are an eye opener for sure , Newhook will have to be moved on from because it's obvious we need to get bigger and he's gonna be the odd man out. I don't hate him as a third line or 4th line wing but I rather have a random 6'2 dude who can skate. The caps seem to have 10 of them lol
Interesting to see if Hughes moves on from newhook , I don't think he will
Interesting to see if Hughes moves on from newhook , I don't think he will
CristianoRonaldo
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A taller Paul Byron, without the breakaway scoring and defensive abilities and the heart...
Theodore450
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Lehky for Barron
followed by #31 and #37 for 2.9m of Newhook
Was questionable then, and hasn't worked out now.
We dumped Lehk for a busting prospect to save 2.3m of cap from our RFA.
a guy that scores the GWG and signed for only 2.2m more.
Then immediately paid a premium for a guy who is way worse and will fill no role when this team was ready to compete. Lehk would've been a great guy to have right now.
Hughes gotta scout before going off draft ranking.
followed by #31 and #37 for 2.9m of Newhook
Was questionable then, and hasn't worked out now.
We dumped Lehk for a busting prospect to save 2.3m of cap from our RFA.
a guy that scores the GWG and signed for only 2.2m more.
Then immediately paid a premium for a guy who is way worse and will fill no role when this team was ready to compete. Lehk would've been a great guy to have right now.
Hughes gotta scout before going off draft ranking.
Pompeius Magnus
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He's much better suited as a bottom 6 center, that much is certain at this point, he can actually be decent in that role IMO. The one thing he absolutely can't do is be a play driver on an offensive line, in any sort of capacity.
DAChampion
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Newhook has a roster spot now because a lot of the prospects are young.
Within a year or two and of Beck, Mesar, Florian, Roy, Hage, or an incoming UFA could take his spot.
Within a year or two and of Beck, Mesar, Florian, Roy, Hage, or an incoming UFA could take his spot.
GlassesJacketShirt
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Bottom six winger. His deficiencies make him an inideal centre on any line, while he has enough speed to work for puck retrievals and pushing pace along the boards in transition. Not saying he's amazing at this either, but it's something.
He's not someone the Habs should dump for the sake of it, but he's not someone I'm penciling into the Habs lineup for 2026-27 either.
Galchenyuk15
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I said the same thing last year: Colorado, in win-now mode, preferred two draft picks over a 23-year-old player with a controllable salary. If he had any real potential, Colorado would have happily kept him at that salary. Instead, in the same year, they traded for or signed eight forwards: Johansen, Mittelstadt, Parise, Drouin, Duhaime, Trenin, Colton, and Tatar. All these guys bring something—faceoffs, physicality, offense, special teams, experience, etc. Newhook brings NONE of that, and that's why we have him.
For Colorado:
A player with some tools but no toolbox. Danault does miracles with a hammer and a saw; some people can't do anything good even with a full hardware store—like Kostitsyn. Newhook can't utilize his tools. He skates like the wind, has a lot of commitment, and a good shot, but he can't put two of those together at the same time. In the playoffs, you want players who can be effective in tight games, not a guy who finds a way to lose against an empty net...
We're starting with a blank slate—or close to it—to build the team we want. Please send Newhook somewhere else where he can't hurt us every freaking night... It was a bad trade from the start, and things have only gotten worse. And I don't give a damn about his production in year one with us; like RHP, he played in the wrong role, and his numbers aren't replicable if he plays where he should be.
A year ago, I said Newhook + young defenseman (Mailloux) + pick would become the new Ryder + Halak + 2nd, and we're entering that window pretty soon.
For Colorado, it was addition by subtraction. I just hope Hughes realizes the same thing after 130 games.
And stop dreaming this guy will be a good third liner or became a Paul Byron 2.0. The hockey sense of Byron was 10 times better and give him the capacity to play everywhere with some success. Newhook is a Deadpool version of Byron, not a clone. For those who keep putting Dach and Newhook on our third line next year, who gonna replace Dvorak and Armia in PK with this kind of lineup?
My dream :
To Calgary : Mike Matheson + Alex Newhook + Farrell/Primeau/Prospects/Picks
To Montréal : Rasmus Andersson + Martin Pospisil
Thanks for the help in your rough years, we have try but miss the target, it's time to move on from this mistake!
For Colorado:
- Top 6: Not effective enough with the puck (not even close).
- Top 9: Not complete or physical enough to be a role player in a winning team.
- Center: Career faceoff percentage around 41,8% and a tunnel vision.
- Offensive: He struggles. No poise, he handle the puck like a frag grenade.
- Defensive: Not better than anyone else; not good enough for a shutdown role.
- Physicality: Lots of energy but not physical at all.
- Power Play: Good to enter the puck and some success has a bumper but nothing crazy.
- Penalty Kill: He doesn't play.
A player with some tools but no toolbox. Danault does miracles with a hammer and a saw; some people can't do anything good even with a full hardware store—like Kostitsyn. Newhook can't utilize his tools. He skates like the wind, has a lot of commitment, and a good shot, but he can't put two of those together at the same time. In the playoffs, you want players who can be effective in tight games, not a guy who finds a way to lose against an empty net...
- Last 32 games with Colorado: 1 goal.
- First 35 games this year: Got his first assist in game #35.
We're starting with a blank slate—or close to it—to build the team we want. Please send Newhook somewhere else where he can't hurt us every freaking night... It was a bad trade from the start, and things have only gotten worse. And I don't give a damn about his production in year one with us; like RHP, he played in the wrong role, and his numbers aren't replicable if he plays where he should be.
A year ago, I said Newhook + young defenseman (Mailloux) + pick would become the new Ryder + Halak + 2nd, and we're entering that window pretty soon.
For Colorado, it was addition by subtraction. I just hope Hughes realizes the same thing after 130 games.
And stop dreaming this guy will be a good third liner or became a Paul Byron 2.0. The hockey sense of Byron was 10 times better and give him the capacity to play everywhere with some success. Newhook is a Deadpool version of Byron, not a clone. For those who keep putting Dach and Newhook on our third line next year, who gonna replace Dvorak and Armia in PK with this kind of lineup?
My dream :
To Calgary : Mike Matheson + Alex Newhook + Farrell/Primeau/Prospects/Picks
To Montréal : Rasmus Andersson + Martin Pospisil
Thanks for the help in your rough years, we have try but miss the target, it's time to move on from this mistake!
LaP
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Lehkonen would fill no role when this team is ready either. Don't get fooled by MacKinnon/Makar induced Lehkonen he would be FAR less effective here playing with Newhook/Dach and Laine. This team was never going to win a cup this year and next Lehkonen or not. The cup window will start once Hutson, Demidov have 2+ years of exp and the other kids (Guhle, Caufield, Slaf) are all in their prime. By then Lehkonen would be a vet on the decline.
We used the 2nd round pick we got for Lehkonen to move up and draft Hage. And we got Carrier for Barron. Carrier and moving up to draft Hage is not a great return for Lehkonen but it's not terrible either. Lehkonen here was a 30 points guy he was never going to return much mroe than that and we did not have Makar/MacKinnon vitamins to boost those stats much.
Two relatively high picks for Newhook was bad that i agree. Unlike Dach, Newhook (22½) was at the age were he was pretty close to be wysiwyg. He was almost 23 and there was not that much hope for a huge progression at that point unlike Dach who was 21 when we acquired him.
Habitant#1
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Unless this guy learns to kill penalties at an elite level, I don't see a role for him on a contending team. He's not talented enough to be a top 6 player, and he's too small and soft to be a bottom six player.
Dagistitsyn
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Great post. Sums him up perfectly. Hopefully the organization has seen enough of his bullshit this year to realize all this and move him before he has zero trade value, even at a reasonable contract.
It was an awful trade to begin with, and it's aging like milk with every game he plays.
Take the L and trade him asap.
I like Rasmus Andersson and I think he would fill the right side out here nicely.
I was also thinking Crouse needs a change of scenery from Utah and it would be a good move to package Newhook with a pick for him. He would serve a much better purpose on the third line here for us. Maybe Newhook figures out how to hit the net in Utah with no pressure on him
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