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Player Discussion Alex Newhook (Part 2) : Book an Appointment with New Look Edition

The Great Weal said:
Didn’t last long, guy whiffed on a million chances after a goal that a 4 year old could score. It's almost as if his linemates have very little to do with him sucking as he's getting plenty of chances on a consistent basis. He's got nobody to blame but himself.
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He still scored and was in the right position despite not being a centre. I know it hurts when players you hate succeed.
 
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HabsCowboysOwn said:
Big L trade for Hughes just like the Dach one, I hope he learned his lesson. No more wasting quality picks on reclamation projects and busts please.
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The 31st pick is not a quality pick. Newhook right now is better than like 90% of the players picked in that range. Your expectations being too high is the issue, not the price paid.
 
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bcv said:
The 31st pick is not a quality pick. Newhook right now is better than like 90% of the players picked in that range. Your expectations being too high is the issue, not the price paid.
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Newhook brings not enough to a top6 and not enough to a bottom6. COL are in Win Now mode and dumped him as soon as they could.

It’s not about the statistical value of the two pick handed out but the overall feeling that we could’ve had another two Michael Hages in our system or another swing for a potential Lane Hutson but instead we have this guy Newhook on a 26pt season with a team worst -21 +/-. He doesn’t play the PK either.

Surely we could have found a player to get 26pts and -21 with 15min TOI (playing on our 2nd line) for free somewhere instead of paying through the nose for it.
 
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bcv said:
The 31st pick is not a quality pick. Newhook right now is better than like 90% of the players picked in that range. Your expectations being too high is the issue, not the price paid.
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I expect a young player in the Top 6 to produce more than a 4th liner. It’s not unreasonable. Whether we paid a 1st or got him off waivers is irrelevant.
 
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Newhook is playing better create a bit more chances but it mostly individual effort he doesn’t create anything for is teammates and he isn’t cashing in on is opportunities. He is will be perfect with Anderson and Gallagher next year. He can be a useful player using is speed but this isn’t a player we are building on.
 
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I don't understand the "he whiffed on so many chances yesterday". So many players do. That is why you get a handful of players who score 40 a year, and like 1 or 2 that score 50.

And at the end of the day, he did score yesterday. The idea that a player has to score on all the chances they are set up with is just setting an expectation someone will not meet.

As the dust settles, it looks like Newhook will have an anderson like role without the physicality: generating a ton of offense and creating odd-man rushes, to score 15-18g a year and oscillating between 30-40 points.

Kerfoot is another good example of the kind of impact Newhook will have.
 
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Andy said:
I don't understand the "he whiffed on so many chances yesterday". So many players do. That is why you get a handful of players who score 40 a year, and like 1 or 2 that score 50.

And at the end of the day, he did score yesterday. The idea that a player has to score on all the chances they are set up with is just setting an expectation someone will not meet.

As the dust settles, it looks like Newhook will have an anderson like role without the physicality: generating a ton of offense and creating odd-man rushes, to score 15-18g a year and oscillating between 30-40 points.

Kerfoot is another good example of the kind of impact Newhook will have.
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Agreed, It's tough to see him miss so many prime chances , but he's getting these chances for a reason.

Yesterday is not the best example because Demidov generates basically free slot chances and will probably not play with Newhook next year , but there's a reason Newhook is wide open in the slot alot and it's because he gets open from his checker , can't say the same thing about half the roster.
 
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Tyson said:
Newhook is actually a really good player with decent upside.
He has been bounced around from wing to center and he has been placed with difficult players to develop chemistry with.
His speed alone is vital to this team.
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He made multiple fantastic defensive plays last night. Even the one where he failed the pass for a Demidov breakaway, he made multiple good plays in a row on a shift.. but gets chirped for barely missing a 3 line pass.

He's a very good two way player. If he develops offensively... GREAT. If he doesn't? We sign him cheap and have a good bottom 6 player who gives teams headaches for years with his speed like Cogliano did.
 
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Natey said:
He made multiple fantastic defensive plays last night. Even the one where he failed the pass for a Demidov breakaway, he made multiple good plays in a row on a shift.. but gets chirped for barely missing a 3 line pass.

He's a very good two way player. If he develops offensively... GREAT. If he doesn't? We sign him cheap and have a good bottom 6 player who gives teams headaches for years with his speed like Cogliano did.
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He’s not a “very good two way player.” He’s a smallish, very fast skater, who can’t put a puck in the Atlantic Ocean if his life depends on it.
 
The Last Red said:
He’s not a “very good two way player.” He’s a smallish, very fast skater, who can’t put a puck in the Atlantic Ocean if his life depends on it.
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Disagree. He creates lots of chances with other 3rd line linemates. He's also improved significantly defensively. His work ethic is fantastic.

I agree his accuracy needs work, but I don't think that's really a Newhook only issue if you're watching this team.
 
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Dude is 24 and has played 4 full seasons in the NHL. He could get a bit better but he's not some kid with upside, at this point he is what he is: not good enough for the top 6 and doesn't have the right tools for the bottom 6.

Plenty of players like him play in Europe.
 
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I made a Newlook appointment for Newhook :cool:

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When he scored yesterday and played it off like he was amazing... bro.. Demidov skooled 3 people and set you up so good even I could have scored, you putz. I was shocked he never put it over the glass.
 
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Habs said:
When he scored yesterday and played it off like he was amazing... bro.. Demidov skooled 3 people and set you up so good even I could have scored, you putz. I was shocked he never put it over the glass.
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So easy to hate. Isn't it... Maybe Newhook was ecstatic and lost himself in the moment?
 
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