LightningStrikes
Champa Bay Lightning
- Nov 24, 2009
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Poor souls.#h0sed
Well, I guess you're entitled to your wrong opinion.Stamkos is not very good and we will never win with him as the Captain.
Like most people I wanted to move on from him but honestly it should be Johnson. Killorn has a lower cap hit and is consistent. Johnson has been underwhelming for most of the year.
I think these playoffs will pull a lot of people one way or another.
What return do you think Killorn will get (bearing in mind both Tampa's internal cap situation and the flat cap league wide)?I'm pretty sure that Killorn is gone this offseason, especially if the cap is going down. I'm going to miss him a lot, especially because he was having quite a breakout season, but there's the silver lining. He's had the best year of his career, so Tampa could get a good return for him.
What return do you think Killorn will get (bearing in mind both Tampa's internal cap situation and the flat cap league wide)?
Thanks for your reply, much appreciated.He’ll get a 1st easily. He’s an excellent two-way player and penalty killer, can play either wing and on any line, is a workhorse who is rarely injured, and is coming off a career year. He’s also on a very good contract which makes him more valuable given the expected flat cap, and while he has a limited NTC we’ll still have half the league as potential trade partners. Just as it did with JT Miller last summer, supply and demand will favor us in moving Killorn.
Now if it’s a bargain you’re looking for you’d have a better chance with one of Gourde, Johnson, or Palat. They have full NTCs which they would have be willing to waive, meaning that even if we can manage to convince one of them to agree to a trade, he would be able to call all the shots regarding where he goes. In that scenario we would pretty much have to take what we can get, which would depend on how many teams the player in question would be open to going to and whether he’s the only one open to being traded or if one of his teammates is also willing to waive.
I don't think too many people ever had a problem with the money on his contract but rather the term. 7 years for a middle 6 forward seemed scary.I thought Killorn's contract was considered a not-so-great one by Tampa fans. Has that perception just changed this season with his career year? Do you think it's likely that he can continue this level of production, or is it a one-off/career high sort of thing?
What return do you think Killorn will get (bearing in mind both Tampa's internal cap situation and the flat cap league wide)?
I didn't mean that you had an internal cap structure, I was just referring to your individual cap situation.Internal cap? We don't have an internal or external cap. We are paying to win right now. As for Killorn he's most likely gone because of the flat cap but it won't be in a fire sale or any kind of discount. I would much rather get Stamkos or McDonagh off the roster with their cap than Killorn but that's much harder to do.
Timmons + 2nd?
I didn't mean that you had an internal cap structure, I was just referring to your individual cap situation.
Timmins isn't going anywhere. How about 2nd + 3rd, or Jost+?
It would be disappointing to get anything less, though. Especially after giving up a first for GoodrowWe would be lucky to get a 1st for Killer. Especially with the flat cap
We would be lucky to get a 1st for Killer. Especially with the flat cap
Before this season I would have agreed, but he really stepped his game up and showed what he is capable of given consistent time with skilled players. The flat cap will be interesting: on the one hand it will likely reduce the number of buyers and increase the number of sellers, but on the other hand it also makes his sub-$5M contract very attractive. A lot is going to depend on which players will be hitting the market that otherwise would not have in the absence of the Wuhan virus.
I get that. I just see a slow cap for a few years and 1st round picks will have increased value.