Confirmed with Link: Alex Iafallo, Rasmus Kuapri, Gabe Vilardi + 2024 2nd round pick to Winnipeg for Pierre-Luc Dubois

[Statto]

JR is completely on the money there

He is also completely missing any sense of self-awareness

I was so excited when we signed him… such a disappointment.

 

[Sol]

Roenick is absolutely right about everything he said. The entire contract is based upon the fact that PLD stops being a whiny little bitch for once in his career which is a pretty big ask. I know the interviews sound good but he has a habit for being a whining little baby for the entirety of his career for a reason.

I have no doubt he will quit on the Kings if things end up looking bad

 

[johnjm22]

I was so excited when we signed him… such a disappointment.

We didn't sign him

We acquired him via trade with the Flyers. We got Roenick and a 3rd (Bud Holloway) in exchange for future considerations.

 

[Surf Nutz]

Oh man that sweetheart deal for Winnipeg. And all the smearing that’s been done on Vilardi for being greedy. Fans better hope PLD explodes here or this will truly be the nail in the coffin.

Until Vilardi's back acts up. Which it will and is a big reason Blake leveraged Gabe + into PLD

What's baffling is why he initially went for it, realized it wouldn't work and went with the rebuild, then abandoned that and went for it again three years later - and older. And none of it has worked.

They had the currency of a #2 and #5 pick to deal, with cap space which undoubtedly would have brought in better players than Fiala and Dubois had he not waffled from his original bad plan.

Honestly, he is the worst GM in Kings history. Accomplished nothing, his team has been one of the least successful in the league during his tenure, he can't stick to any coherent plan, has butchered drafts and development of what should have been key players, overpaid damn near every contract he has signed and the team is in exactly the same place it was when he was hired.

According to Scotland Yard Wannabees:
The Kings acquired veterans to supplement the youth because:
1, AEG wants to be in the playoffs every year.
2. Youth needed time to develop into an NHL commodity.
3. Youths were unable to transition to NHL commodities in a timely matter.
4. The Kings suprisingly took the Oil to 7 games in 21/22.
5. The Kings win now window is hastend by TMac needing an extension before 24/25
6. Blake needing an extension before 25/26.

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[Surf Nutz]

Roenick is absolutely right about everything he said. The entire contract is based upon the fact that PLD stops being a whiny little bitch for once in his career which is a pretty big ask. I know the interviews sound good but he has a habit for being a whining little baby for the entirety of his career for a reason.

I have no doubt he will quit on the Kings if things end up looking bad

No way he whines as much as the comments from the core, stuck in the mud anti-Blake posters here.
They are in the cry baby comments Hof already.
Speaking of which, I am not even bothering listening to Roenick ever since he strted shaking his butt in pre game warm ups and was able to shake anything during the games.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

When did Dubois whine about being a Jet? His contract was up and he didn’t have any obligation to stay there. This isn’t the first or last time a RFA has expressed his desire to move on. And look at how many players want out of Winnipeg, they have many issues that need to be resolved, and have a few big names turning into UFAs next summer.

And calling Rob Blake the worst GM in franchise history is laughable. Jake Milford and George Maguire and Sam McMaster and Nick Beverley all made far worse deals than whatever the hell you guys consider to be Rob Blake’s worst trade.

 

[johnjm22]

Anytime you sign a player to a significant contract there's a risk.

People are complaining about the contract, but I think 8.5M is pretty damn reasonable and will probably age well considering he's 25.

The Kings are betting his best years are in front of him, not behind him. We'll see. He certainly has the upside.

 

[kingsfan28]

JR is completely on the money there

He is also completely missing any sense of self-awareness

JR is partly correct, but he in no position to throw stones.

See, JR never lived in the south bay, he lived in Beverly Hills. He went out and partied more than he played, was spending more time with acting coaches than his actual hockey coaches. Then when called out, made every excuse in the book to why he's playing so bad. All he needed to do was look in the mirror at the over weight, out of shape player starring back at him who stole 6 mil from AEG. He still still hasn't got the self-aware stuff yet either, judging by his post career low lights.

 

[bland]

When did Dubois whine about being a Jet? His contract was up and he didn’t have any obligation to stay there. This isn’t the first or last time a RFA has expressed his desire to move on. And look at how many players want out of Winnipeg, they have many issues that need to be resolved, and have a few big names turning into UFAs next summer.

And calling Rob Blake the worst GM in franchise history is laughable. Jake Milford and George Maguire and Sam McMaster and Nick Beverley all made far worse deals than whatever the hell you guys consider to be Rob Blake’s worst trade.

None of those executives had the benefit of world class training facilities, extensive budgets for amateur and pro scouting, an AHL team sharing facilities, an owner with legimiately deep pockets and none inherited a team that was three years removed from a Cup win with a large percentage of that roster intact.

How many signed a guy who had been out of the league for years to a three year deal then abandoned ship on it within 4 months?

Any of them sign so many players to overpaid deals that they couldn't ice a full compliment of players?

Nobody in Kings history has done less with more.

 

[Fishhead]

None of those executives had the benefit of world class training facilities, extensive budgets for amateur and pro scouting, an AHL team sharing facilities, an owner with legimiately deep pockets and none inherited a team that was three years removed from a Cup win with a large percentage of that roster intact.

How many signed a guy who had been out of the league for years to a three year deal then abandoned ship on it within 4 months?

Any of them sign so many players to overpaid deals that they couldn't ice a full compliment of players?

Nobody in Kings history has done less with more.

What teams had world-class training facilities back then? I remember when those early guys were managing the team, dudes used to smoke and drink and skate around without helmets. And minors were much different prior to the NHL, you know that.

And both Cooke and Buss were loaded.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

None of those executives had the benefit of world class training facilities, extensive budgets for amateur and pro scouting, an AHL team sharing facilities, an owner with legimiately deep pockets and none inherited a team that was three years removed from a Cup win with a large percentage of that roster intact.

How many signed a guy who had been out of the league for years to a three year deal then abandoned ship on it within 4 months?

Any of them sign so many players to overpaid deals that they couldn't ice a full compliment of players?

Nobody in Kings history has done less with more.

I don’t know… was acquiring Dan Cloutier for futures and giving him an extension a better move? The Kings were notorious dumpster divers, bringing relics from the past for first round picks, or for pure rentals who walked away after a very brief stint here.

Blake started with a barren prospect pool, had the team overachieve in their first year, restocked the pipeline (and I’ve lamented about the blown picks), got the team younger, and made moves that accelerated the team’s progression, albeit the development of some prospects has stalled. Excuses aside with regards to Byfield and Turcotte, the biggest victim of this mishandling has been Bjornfot. I don’t like how they’ve handled him, at all.

 

[Statto]

We didn't sign him

We acquired him via trade with the Flyers. We got Roenick and a 3rd (Bud Holloway) in exchange for future considerations.

Yeah… I was getting nagged to put down the iPad. Was typing too quickly

 

[Statto]

When did Dubois whine about being a Jet? His contract was up and he didn’t have any obligation to stay there. This isn’t the first or last time a RFA has expressed his desire to move on. And look at how many players want out of Winnipeg, they have many issues that need to be resolved, and have a few big names turning into UFAs next summer.

And calling Rob Blake the worst GM in franchise history is laughable. Jake Milford and George Maguire and Sam McMaster and Nick Beverley all made far worse deals than whatever the hell you guys consider to be Rob Blake’s worst trade.

I believe he actually said he wouldn’t sign a long term extension in Winnipeg. He didn’t bitch or ask for a trade. Perhaps he would have done 3 years, who knows. The way he handled things in Columbus was wrong and the shift thing was poor but he was 20!!! The 25 year old Statto was not the same guy he was a 20… I can get past that given how young he was and he’s not done anything wrong in Winnipeg. So actually most of the takes on his character focus on two situations blown out of proportion (re-signing in Winnipeg) and lacking the context needed (age + Torts) to accurately assess what happened. He may be a jerk for all I know but so far he seems a decent guy.

 

[Statto]

None of those executives had the benefit of world class training facilities, extensive budgets for amateur and pro scouting, an AHL team sharing facilities, an owner with legimiately deep pockets and none inherited a team that was three years removed from a Cup win with a large percentage of that roster intact.

How many signed a guy who had been out of the league for years to a three year deal then abandoned ship on it within 4 months?

Any of them sign so many players to overpaid deals that they couldn't ice a full compliment of players?

Nobody in Kings history has done less with more.

How much of it is Luc though? I could easily see it being Luc saying ‘right it is time to make the play-offs etc’. Look I’m not delighted with the last two seasons and I agree they started the push too early, however it’s too early to actually judge it IMO, if Byfield and Clarke are impact players it suddenly looks great. However, they have to get out of the first round this year or else all 3 of Luc, Blake and TMac need to go. They need to get out of the second round IMO for it to be considered a truly good season (injuries etc not withstanding) as expecting them to be true contenders yet isn’t realistic unless the goalies get hot in the post season.

 

[funky]

Nothing says I am forcing a trade like this

He was playing solid hockey then got hurt. Took a while to get going again.

 

[Rorschach]

Sure has worked for Byfield, Turcotte, Vilardi and Kupari.

Those guys still need to learn the 100ft game first.

 

[King'sPawn]

Those guys still need to learn the 100ft game first.

So they need to learn the 200-foot game to learn the 100-foot game so they can learn the 200-foot game from Kopitar and Danault. Then maybe they'll be asked to play a 100-foot game like Fiala.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

So they need to learn the 200-foot game to learn the 100-foot game so they can learn the 200-foot game from Kopitar and Danault. Then maybe they'll be asked to play a 100-foot game like Fiala.

If they would just hurry up and turn 25 years old so TM could see them

 

[Surf Nutz]

Seriously? I can't see that happening. He can force a trade when the season is over -- especially with his contract situation. Once the TDL has passed last season, it would be idiotic to tank. They literally can't trade him at that point. If he did personally tank for 32 games and blow his team's chances for the year, then that is a guy NOBODY would nor should want anywhere on their team. If anything, tanking earlier in the season before the TDL would be the move to force a trade (if he wanted to go -- otherwise it's the offseason). The things you say sometimes.

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[kingsfan28]

I don’t know… was acquiring Dan Cloutier for futures and giving him an extension a better move? The Kings were notorious dumpster divers, bringing relics from the past for first round picks, or for pure rentals who walked away after a very brief stint here.

Blake started with a barren prospect pool, had the team overachieve in their first year, restocked the pipeline (and I’ve lamented about the blown picks), got the team younger, and made moves that accelerated the team’s progression, albeit the development of some prospects has stalled. Excuses aside with regards to Byfield and Turcotte, the biggest victim of this mishandling has been Bjornfot. I don’t like how they’ve handled him, at all.

Bjornfot might be the biggest enigma in the org. I still can't get a read on him, is he good and needs time or is he going to bounce from one team to the next for his entire career. You saw flashes of potentential, then you saw him get turned around on back to back shifts and go huh, this was a first round pick?

 

[Vote4Lubo]

Bjornfot might be the biggest enigma in the org. I still can't get a read on him, is he good and needs time or is he going to bounce from one team to the next for his entire career. You saw flashes of potentential, then you saw him get turned around on back to back shifts and go huh, this was a first round pick?

Agreed. Im betting on him to have a breakout year as others have said on here. Hopefully he can be a mini roy on the left side. But im usually wrong on these things so he will be our next Denis "garbage goal" Grebeshkov.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Am I the only one that thought Bjornfot looked really really good--top 4 dman good--until he got hurt?

He's had a hard time in recovery that's for sure but he's also not gotten a real opportunity since he lost his job to injury, which would never happen to anyone over 25 in this org.

 

[King'sPawn]

Am I the only one that thought Bjornfot looked really really good--top 4 dman good--until he got hurt?

He's had a hard time in recovery that's for sure but he's also not gotten a real opportunity since he lost his job to injury, which would never happen to anyone over 25 in this org.

You're not alone. I thought Bjornfot was pretty solid who just didn't put up big numbers. But he still did a good job activating offensively while minimizing defensive catastrophes.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

You're not alone. I thought Bjornfot was pretty solid who just didn't put up big numbers. But he still did a good job activating offensively while minimizing defensive catastrophes.

I feel like his biggest detriment is size but that's being emphasized because his biggest 'fault' is that this organization runs out 6 dmen exactly his size

anywhere else where all the dmen are 6'2" + he'd be in the lineup nightly

People aren't going to like this because this forum hates that type of non-'specialist' player but he's basically a small Forbort, a guy that will have a long career as a good depth player because he can be plug and play. I'd say this guy nailed his scouting report:

"A mobile two-way defenseman with top four potential. He does not have the high-end skillset to become a first pair defenseman but his smarts and stability make him a good top 4 or top 6 defenseman. Even though he does not have big point producing offensive potential he has good offensive elements. He is a strong passer, a good puck carrier and possesses a dangerous wrist shot."

 

[Sol]

He’s just too boring to stand out unfortunately and he does not do anything to change that