Lizotte and Grundstrom are the most likely to move.
An ideal 4th line would be an enforcer or gritty forward next to JAD and Fagemo.
An ideal 4th line would be an enforcer or gritty forward next to JAD and Fagemo.
Confirmed with Link: Alex Iafallo, Rasmus Kuapri, Gabe Vilardi + 2024 2nd round pick to Winnipeg for Pierre-Luc Dubois
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It would be good to know what the contract discussions were like with him and RB. I'm sure there was an injury concern but there may be other factors that contributed to the decision to not keep him. We just don't know. All that being said, I think we gave up too much.
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Lizotte is a good 4th line center.
Just surround him with wingers that compliment his game.
Winnipeg and Ottawa boards are much more reasonable.
Montreal and Vancouver are the worst.
Somehow Edmonton and Toronto are in the middle.
I reserve my judgment regarding Calgary for now.
P.S. The worst of Toronto fans are going to post directly on main HF board
This is what makes me feel okay about the deal. Vilardi is the player that stings the most in losing, but he in himself is a gamble. I think his hands and hockey sense are better than PLD's but PLD has everything else on him and is a lot healthier. Vilardi is a player that I can see score at a high rate, but will always be at the 20-30g and 50-60 point range due to never playing near 82 games a year.
You look at Eichel and he is the same, he scores 20-some-odd goals and 60 some off points a year but only plays 60 games or so as well. He is capable of 30 goals and 80 points but he will never play that many games... PLD is someone that can guarantee that production but be there every night and impose his size a bit better and be a presence. I mean, if it was between Iafallo and Vilardi for $8M or PLD for $8.5M right now, in a vacuum, I would choose PLD. So, the team is better, the "prospects" are going to get a chance to play and move up, and I guess we will see what happens.
The points speak for themself.
If not injured, Vilardi would have cracked the 30+ goals easily.
Then there is also the eye test of Vilardi's elite playmaking and game reading abilities.
This is stuff PLD can only dream about
This is exactly why we go nowhere. Excuses and pointless participation trophies.
The target is the Stanley Cup and nothing else
I blame Kopitar for not being able to force our game onto the opponent and i blame Doughty
for not being able to keep the opponent top players in check.
Those are the jobs of #1 center and #1 defender.
All this wouldn't be a big issue if both of them wouldn't have ask for the salary paid to people who can do their jobs.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
You mean PLD's career .7 PPG (playing in the NHL since age 19) vs Vilardi's .51 , yeah Kurri it really speaks for itself.
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Vilardi embraces chance for larger opportunity after trade to Jets
The newest member of the Winnipeg Jets understands that trades are part of the business and in his first Zoom call with members of the media, Vilardi was quick to embrace his new situation, which should come with an enhanced role.
PLD was not sidelined for 2 years with a back injury and the Jets have not an insane coach who put PLD on the 4th line with 3 minutes of game time
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Little Psycho
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I don’t think anyone would be happy going from LA to Winterpeg
Always will love Vilardi. Sounds like he wanted to play center in more of a top 6 role, but TMac didn't trust him defensively. But I am glad he is feeling better and hope he gets a good deal, stays healthy, and becomes the player his obvious skill would allow him to be...Vilardi embraces chance for larger opportunity after trade to Jets
The newest member of the Winnipeg Jets understands that trades are part of the business and in his first Zoom call with members of the media, Vilardi was quick to embrace his new situation, which should come with an enhanced role.www.sportsnet.ca
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I wish Vilardi, Iaflao and Kupari the best. Now Hopefully PLD means what he said about being excited to be a King and he digs in and produces at the level he is capable of. Blake will left himself with only 4.5 mill in cp space with only 16 players signed. He has some other players to sign, mainly a goaltender. Will se how he gets that done. Cannot play and compete with only 16 players, including just one goaltender.
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PLD's .7 points/game with his lowest average time on ice on par with Vilardi's highest average time on ice?
Vilardi has never exceeded an average of 16 minutes. PLD was around 14-15+ once, and not-so-coincidentally, it's when he scored 21 points in 46 games. Which is worse than Vilardi's points per game career pace.
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Yeah but there are social problems (like racism) in Manitoba and it's not funny. The lakes are ok. The moskitos are huge and they want to bite you. This is a province in Canada with high crime rate.
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I have zero problem with Vilardi mouthingoff, he's always had his heart on his sleeve and he's busted his absolute ass to make it back this far only to be unceremoniously dumped for a shiny new toy because he dared ask for a raise before age 26.
We're not 'forgetting' about this, it's actually part of the point--you have a guy you KNOW is successful in your system and has some concerns--but you're going to trade him and other significant assets for a guy with arguably MORE maybes.
That's why the trade makes sense for both parties to some degree--they're both assuming some risk around the centerpieces--but one got additional assurances, one didn't.
I want to believe but that's a HUGE 'if' given recent history
We're not 'forgetting' about this, it's actually part of the point--you have a guy you KNOW is successful in your system and has some concerns--but you're going to trade him and other significant assets for a guy with arguably MORE maybes.
That's why the trade makes sense for both parties to some degree--they're both assuming some risk around the centerpieces--but one got additional assurances, one didn't.
I want to believe but that's a HUGE 'if' given recent history
Little Psycho
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TM was afraid of Vilardi’s defensive game but continued to play ticking time bomb Durzi. That’s wild.
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Habs fan here again. Sorry to get here without invitation. First of all, PLD will not retired as an HOF. He's not quite "elite" but he's not a boring player without any drive and skills. He's not a savior and I hope none of you expect that. No way he equals Kopitar in his prime. But he makes your team better by making the center line stronger. Your team is still making sparks of life, unlike other depressing teams. Don't misunderstand what's happening, 3/4 of the league are jealous of you. Even the most vicious and mean comments from other teams posters are jealousy. Well, you know it, right?
My advice is don't get depress or influenced by the negative of the trade. Think about the combos of lines with PLD and figure what could happen. I think your team will be in the PO next spring, well, for sure. PLD is maybe what it takes to beat the Oilers, if you meet them again. Now, it doesn't solve your huge problem of Ds but it's something that can be adressed later in the next years. And what about your goalie situation? I can say you're not the only team with weakness in front of the net, if that's the case for you.
My advice is don't get depress or influenced by the negative of the trade. Think about the combos of lines with PLD and figure what could happen. I think your team will be in the PO next spring, well, for sure. PLD is maybe what it takes to beat the Oilers, if you meet them again. Now, it doesn't solve your huge problem of Ds but it's something that can be adressed later in the next years. And what about your goalie situation? I can say you're not the only team with weakness in front of the net, if that's the case for you.
I am just pissed about the mishandling of assets. Giving away everything to end up in the same spot. Blake seriously is one of the worst GMs in the league.
PLD is a good player but Kings over paid again. Ugh
PLD is a good player but Kings over paid again. Ugh
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11-12 was worse, as that's what started the frauds getting paid by both DL and Blake. Should've been no miracle 13-14 run to keep them from being a one hit wonder. 17-18 was but a symptom of a deeper problem. Pietrangelo was the man to take in 2008. DL messed up everywhere, and sold the farm before winning a round. He never let that rebuild finish. Plus his central player in it was an emotional child, even during the Cup wins. Lasting success is not built that way.
They were the faces of a 2 time winner, so they were going to get paid for that.
