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Alex Galchenyuk Vs Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

If Galchenyuk was Canadian instead of American or Russian, would the media be crazy over him? Had RNH been American, would we even care?
 
jedimyrmidon said:
For myself and what I can see, RNH's ability to slow down the game (I think he is the epitome of it) and find the passing lanes in traffic is terrific especially on the PP. His style is being slippery and slowing things down (which is how he played at the World Juniors), which isn't how Galchenyuk obtained many of his points in the NHL last season. I don't think many players possess that ability so young so that's what makes RNH stand apart. I think that Galchenyuk may be better than RNH doing things at top speed. He also stated that he wants to control the puck better this year as he did in junior so we'll see how that ends up.

As for posters here taking aim at Galchenyuk's Russian roots and previous injuries, I guess I give the average poster here more credit. I can see people taking aim at Galchenyuk's knee, but not his Russian roots when he's been exceptionally clear about it and by choosing to play for Team USA internationally has more than backed up his claims that NA is where he wants to play.
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Big mistake! :laugh:

Hopkins is definitely the better of the two at playing at top speed also. He is a superior skater to Galchenyuk in every sense and is equally as good with the the puck.

The only advantage that Galchenuk has at this point is his ridiculous wrist shot but RNH has a very good one himself that he is being urged to use more often. At the end of the day they both have srardom written all over them. I believe RNH has potential super stardom in his future but I would feel more comfortable with Galchenuk due to Hopkin's wonky shoulder.
 
Estimated_Prophet said:
Big mistake! :laugh:

Hopkins is definitely the better of the two at playing at top speed also. He is a superior skater to Galchenyuk in every sense and is equally as good with the the puck.

The only advantage that Galchenuk has at this point is his ridiculous wrist shot but RNH has a very good one himself that he is being urged to use more often. At the end of the day they both have srardom written all over them. I believe RNH has potential super stardom in his future but I would feel more comfortable with Galchenuk due to Hopkin's wonky shoulder.
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Galchenyuk is better than RNH in a lot of departments. Of course, not hockey IQ, because very few beat RNH at that, but to me its obvious he is better physically. RNH gets tossed around and its not funny, he has very little physicallity to his game, but he compensates with smart and shifty plays. Galchenyuk also has better hands.

RNH is better at top speed, but is not that good in puck protection. I think teams are starting to figure out how to play against him, very aggressive and physical. Galchenyuk is built for playing in the nhl, and I agree that RNH has that playmaking ability to put up a ton of points like MSL or Giroux, but for now he is not handling the Nhl play too well.
 
rockjngo said:
Some would argue Galchenyuk could easily be the #1 overall pick had he played more than 3 games his draft year. Chucky has size, hands, vision, he might lack explosiveness in his skating. I highly doubt Columbus will take Ryan Murray if we redo the draft :)
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columbus was scared of the Russian factor plain and simple

THEY ARE ONE Pejorative SlurED FRANCHISE TO BUYPASS GALCHY FOR A 15 YEAR NICE CHRIS PHILLIPS ( AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PHILLIPS )

BUT....:shakehead:huh::razz:
 
Bourdon101 said:
Galchenyuk is better than RNH in a lot of departments. Of course, not hockey IQ, because very few beat RNH at that, but to me its obvious he is better physically. RNH gets tossed around and its not funny, he has very little physicallity to his game, but he compensates with smart and shifty plays. Galchenyuk also has better hands.

RNH is better at top speed, but is not that good in puck protection. I think teams are starting to figure out how to play against him, very aggressive and physical. Galchenyuk is built for playing in the nhl, and I agree that RNH has that playmaking ability to put up a ton of points like MSL or Giroux, but for now he is not handling the Nhl play too well.
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You couldn't be more wrong about RNH's physicality. He has actually been more physically assertive than Galchenyuk so far and both of these players are getting pushed around at this point in their careers.

Neither one of these players will be a bruiser and both are willing to fight for space in the dirty areas.........that part of their respective games is a wash. Teams are not figuring out how to play against RNH, he just hasn't been healthy enough to play the way that he is capable of.
 
Estimated_Prophet said:
You couldn't be more wrong about RNH's physicality. He has actually been more physically assertive than Galchenyuk so far and both of these players are getting pushed around at this point in their careers.

Neither one of these players will be a bruiser and both are willing to fight for space in the dirty areas.........that part of their respective games is a wash. Teams are not figuring out how to play against RNH, he just hasn't been healthy enough to play the way that he is capable of.
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Well when I see RNH play, he is getting tossed around and his frame is much smaller than galchenyuk, he is much more lanky too. I have seen RNH play last year and in his rookie seasons and he is definetly not the kind of player who will be creating space with his body. Galchenyuk does have that aspect, not that he will hit, but protect the puck and is tougher to knock off than RNH.

There is a reason other than his shoulder for his sophomore slump.
 
Estimated_Prophet said:
You couldn't be more wrong about RNH's physicality. He has actually been more physically assertive than Galchenyuk so far and both of these players are getting pushed around at this point in their careers.

Neither one of these players will be a bruiser and both are willing to fight for space in the dirty areas.........that part of their respective games is a wash. Teams are not figuring out how to play against RNH, he just hasn't been healthy enough to play the way that he is capable of.
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I don't see how RNH could be at the same time appear to be very lanky and play a slippery game while also being more physically 'assertive' (do you mean that he is able to play more physical effectively?). Galchenyuk definitely has more mass and a better build for playing a physical game even if he is a year younger.
 
Both players are my favourites. Yet, I must give edge to RNH. His style is the style of - Gretzky.
 
MaxHabs24 said:
How good/bad is RNH's shot?
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Very good imo. Deceptive, quick and accurate. Don't think it's as hard as Galchenyuks though.

Can anyone tell me where they think Galchenyuk will lineup this year? and will he be on first unit pp? I'm thinking about keeping him in my keeper league and at $6 is very very cheap.
 
Nuck This said:
Very good imo. Deceptive, quick and accurate. Don't think it's as hard as Galchenyuks though.

Can anyone tell me where they think Galchenyuk will lineup this year? and will he be on first unit pp? I'm thinking about keeping him in my keeper league and at $6 is very very cheap.
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2nd unit PP most likely. His line will be getting 2nd toughest matchups and a lot of defensive starts. Not sure what your league counts, if it's only points or whatever, but he won't be put in a primary offensive role.
 
overlords said:
2nd unit PP most likely. His line will be getting 2nd toughest matchups and a lot of defensive starts. Not sure what your league counts, if it's only points or whatever, but he won't be put in a primary offensive role.
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Thanks I think I'm still going to keep him as hell still be cheap in two-four years. My league is goals, assists, pp points, +/-, pims and game winning goals
 
onemorecup said:
columbus was scared of the Russian factor plain and simple

THEY ARE ONE Pejorative SlurED FRANCHISE TO BUYPASS GALCHY FOR A 15 YEAR NICE CHRIS PHILLIPS ( AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PHILLIPS )

BUT....:shakehead:huh::razz:
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Apparently Galchenyuk is American, didn't Columbus get the memo?
 
Nuck This said:
Very good imo. Deceptive, quick and accurate. Don't think it's as hard as Galchenyuks though.

Can anyone tell me where they think Galchenyuk will lineup this year? and will he be on first unit pp? I'm thinking about keeping him in my keeper league and at $6 is very very cheap.
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Galchenyuk's wrist shot reminds me of Stephanie Richer's slapper, twice as hard yet 1/2 the effort.
 
rockjngo said:
Galchenyuk's wrist shot reminds me of Stephanie Richer's slapper, twice as hard yet 1/2 the effort.
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Nobody's shot is twice as hard as Richer's was. I've never seen Galchenyuk demonstrate anything of the kind shot you're talking about either. If he's got anywhere near Richer's shot he should be using it a lot more. Richer had as good a slapshot as I've seen any player have. That includes McInnis or whoever else you want to come up with.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
Nobody's shot is twice as hard as Richer's was. I've never seen Galchenyuk demonstrate anything of the kind shot you're talking about either. If he's got anywhere near Richer's shot he should be using it a lot more. Richer had as good a slapshot as I've seen any player have. That includes McInnis or whoever else you want to come up with.
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Alls I got from this is memory of Richer coming down the wing and ripping a slapper past the goalie. Also, he's our last 50 goals scorer.
If anything, Galchenyuk has a crazy snaped shot...yet to see his slapper.
PS:One timers don't count.
 
Now that RNH signed a $42 million contract, what does this mean for Galchenyuk in a year or two?
 
Beaker said:
2 years, 2.5 mill per- bridge contract. Right Bergevin?
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With bonus' his ELC is 3.2 million per. He won't be getting less than that especially since he's developing so nicely. If he gets a bridge contract (not sure that he will) it will be probably 2 years 8 million or 9 million.

I'd rather lock him into a Tavares type deal though 5x5.5.
 
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