Trenton's arena is much nicer, the arena in Binghamton is a throwback to the early 1980s. The larger capacity at Trenton would allow for solid crowds when they play the nearby PA teams. Quite certain they could better Binghamtons average attendance by 1000 fans for the season, no doubt. No room to grow in Binghamton, they haven't played to near capacity crowds in many years. Trenton's arena is AHL perfect, that's the size arena Albany should have had or maybe just a tad smaller.
And the population base in the Capital Region is much larger than cities like Utica and Bingo.
Hartford I've been told has been treated poorly by the nyr organization.
I would think their FB follower count would be higher since Hartford is a larger city.
What is it for Bridgeport?
Bridgeport 15,026
Providence 60,187
Lv 22,084
Swb 61,704
Funny how WBS gets such strong local support in an area that is considered flyers or rangers territory and they even use the rival Penguins name.
probably because Pittsburgh owns the rights to that market? isn't Allentown (LV) Flyers country since when is WBS Ranger territory?
I'm not sure what you mean by "Pittsburgh owns the rights to that market"? It does seem clear that others are referring to is the fact that many hockey fans in the WBS market are Rangers fans. Check the map, WBS is closer to NYC than it is to Philly, and Pittsburgh is more than twice as far away. In fact Scranton is actually north of NYC, and very close to both the NY and NJ borders.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.1712293,-75.8708401,9.22z
Funny how WBS gets such strong local support in an area that is considered flyers or rangers territory and they even use the rival Penguins name.
and Allentown isn't Flyers country, maybe we ought to move the Phantoms again, royals
check your map again, Moosic PA (IS where the WBS Penguins actually play)IS NEPA? AND Hershey, then by your definition is Rangers territory too
Binghamton's arena totally reminded me of the pre-2005 Dunkin Donuts Center or the old Cumberland County Civic Center.
It's the same basic design as Cumberland County and the arena in Wheeling.
and Allentown isn't Flyers country, maybe we ought to move the Phantoms again, royals
check your map again, Moosic PA (IS where the WBS Penguins actually play)IS NEPA? AND Hershey, then by your definition is Rangers territory too
For the record, if you check the map you'll find that the Mohegan Sun Arena at Casey Plaza is located at 255 Highland Park Boulevard in Wilkes-Barre.
It's PNC Field, where the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders play, that's in Moosic (235 Montage Mountain Road, to be precise).
Alternative facts.
and Allentown isn't Flyers country, maybe we ought to move the Phantoms again, royals
check your map again, Moosic PA (IS where the WBS Penguins actually play)IS NEPA? AND Hershey, then by your definition is Rangers territory too
I didn't say anything about Allentown. I live just outside Reading, which is about 30 minutes south of Allentown, 2 hours southwest of WBS, 90 minutes northwest of Philly and an hour east of Hershey.
The point I was making is WBS is closer to NYC than to Pittsburgh by a factor of three. There are more local Rangers fans than Pittsburgh fans up that way. Reading and Allentown are predominately Philly fans. Hershey is getting closer to the middle of the state, so you will encounter more Pittsburgh fans there than in the other cities mentioned. Probably 70/30 Flyers/Pens. Obviously some folks will start following the parent team of their local minor league team, so you will find Caps jerseys in Hershey and Pens fans in WBS, but that is more a factor of watching players move up, and keeping track of the parent team which affects the local team. Used to see some Kings jerseys in Reading back in the day too, but those have mostly faded away now.
Can't see how Hartford can support 3 hockey teams at the same time if this happens. Wolfpack could potentially be on the move.IF Albany does get another team like the Rangers, I'm assuming they would just take Hartford's spot in the Atlantic Division. Much less travel going to New England and Eastern PA, than Western NY, Quebec and Ontario.
Can't see how Hartford can support 3 hockey teams at the same time if this happens. Wolfpack could potentially be on the move.
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Malloy-Asks-NY-Islanders-to-Move-to-Hartford-412712783.html
pre-renovation or post-renovation, on CIA, Disengage, is my response to that issue
I would guess that is why the Penguins put their AHL team in Wilkes Barre. To try and capture a larger fan base. It's just natural than fans of an AHL team will follow those same players in the NHL.
There prob were not many Pens fans in the WB area until they got their AHL team.
Closest NHL team to WB is the NJD.
There are fans of NJD/Nyr/Philly in addition to Pens fans in the WB area.
When people in Albany and other cities say they need the local NHL team as their AHL squad in order to draw well, the WB Pens squashes that theory.
WB draws well and the folks in that community have embraced the Pens as their team.
The reason why the Penguins put their AHL team in Wilkes-Barre is because there are no markets in western Pennsylvania, northern West Virginia, or the portions of eastern Ohio not clearly in the Cleveland sphere of influence that are large enough to support an AHL team. Putting a team in Wilkes-Barre did help the Penguins expand their fanbase in an area where they had very few fans.
The bolded part was most definitely true. Quite honestly, NE PA in general didn't follow hockey closely prior to the introduction of the WBS Penguins, but among sports fans in that region who followed hockey prior to the late 1990s, my sense is the Flyers were almost definitely the most popular NHL team with the Rangers a relatively distant second. The Penguins were barely on the radar at that time.
I haven't lived near NE PA for over 15 years at this point, but my guess is the Flyers are still the most popular NHL team in the region, though by a much smaller margin over the #2 team (now Pittsburgh), and the Rangers are now third.