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After McDavid, Who's the Best Peak Player of the Current Generation?

Who's the best peak player?

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69 goals is hard to beat.

Matthews
MacKinnon
Kucherov
Makar

You can make an argument for those 4 in any order
 
Drai/Mack/Kuch/Makar in a tie due to their playoff performances.

Matthews might honestly be near McDavid's talent, but his playoff performances are atrocious relative to the rest of the group.

Honestly you can't go wrong with any of them, but since we're living in a cap era I'm not sure many teams would get rid of guys even if they could get Matthews considering how bad he has been in the playoffs.
 
Three On Zero said:
69 goals is hard to beat.

Matthews
MacKinnon
Kucherov
Makar

You can make an argument for those 4 in any order
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Lol where's Draisaitl. We all know you love the Oilers

Draisaitl easy. His peak regular season is on par with the Others and smokes Matthews,and his playoffs is better than all of them except peak 97s 43 point performance.
 
centipede2233 said:
I guess with that logic, you have mackinnon ahead of Crosby?
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It’s an interesting discussion in terms of single season peak play. Mackinnons 2023-2024 probably tops any of Crosby’s best seasons depending how you look at it. In terms of career, longevity and consistency it’s Crosby obviously.

In terms of Drai vs Mackinnon, Drai has been better in most years, but Mackinnon’s lack of 50 goal and 100 point seasons is because he’d miss multiple games a season that prevented him from achieving those numbers.
 
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Video Nasty said:
Art Rosses;

Draisaitl 1

MacKinnon 0
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Exactly. Just as in centipede’s examples, we can see that only focusing on small criteria can lead us to inaccurate conclusions.

centipede2233 said:
I guess with that logic, you have mackinnon ahead of Crosby?
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I wasn’t using it as an argument, I was showing the flaw in yours. You used very basic criteria to try to suggest that MacKinnon doesn’t have a case so I did the same. MacKinnon’s year last year was clearly better than any of Draisaitl’s, and he has the slightly better points per game over the last 6 years, including Drasaitl’s 19-20 Art Ross, so it’s not like we’re talking about an outlier season. Crosby is irrelevant.

I’m not even saying MacKinnon is the answer just that he clearly has a case to be above Draisaitl.
 
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TheLegend27 said:
It’s an interesting discussion in terms of single season peak play. Mackinnons 2023-2024 probably tops any of Crosby’s best seasons depending how you look at it. In terms of career, longevity and consistency it’s Crosby obviously.

In terms of Drai vs Mackinnon, Drai has been better in most years, but Mackinnon’s lack of 50 goal and 100 point seasons is because he’d miss multiple games a season that prevented him from achieving those numbers.
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I wouldn’t even say that’s true. He’s been healthier most years, but their points per game are near equal since Draisaitl’s first 100 point season (1.44 to 1.43 for MacKinnon), and even in Draisaitl’s best year MacKinnon was a close runner up in Hart voting. Most years they’ve been pretty similar.
 
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Regal said:
Exactly. Just as in centipede’s examples, we can see that only focusing on small criteria can lead us to inaccurate conclusions.



I wasn’t using it as an argument, I was showing the flaw in yours. You used very basic criteria to try to suggest that MacKinnon doesn’t have a case so I did the same. MacKinnon’s year last year was clearly better than any of Draisaitl’s, and he has the slightly better points per game over the last 6 years, including Drasaitl’s 19-20 Art Ross, so it’s not like we’re talking about an outlier season. Crosby is irrelevant.

I’m not even saying MacKinnon is the answer just that he clearly has a case to be above Draisaitl.
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You were using 1 year comparison, I was using career to date, apples to oranges

TheLegend27 said:
It’s an interesting discussion in terms of single season peak play. Mackinnons 2023-2024 probably tops any of Crosby’s best seasons depending how you look at it. In terms of career, longevity and consistency it’s Crosby obviously.

In terms of Drai vs Mackinnon, Drai has been better in most years, but Mackinnon’s lack of 50 goal and 100 point seasons is because he’d miss multiple games a season that prevented him from achieving those numbers.
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As Sam constatine once said, a playersa best ability is their availability :)
 
I voted Kucherov, but it's 1A/1B with MacKinnon. Last season, they were neck and neck, and that's the best any of these guys have ever been. I lean Kucherov because he's better in playoffs than MacK (and I also prefered his season last year), but close.

Draisaitl for playoff peaks has an argument for #1 overall though. But, in his best runs he has these insane stretches, and then goes cold, wihch is annoying. He wasn't good in the finals last year for example. So, I probably have him #3.

Matthews is 4th I guess, but him and Makar are quite close.

Three On Zero said:
69 goals is hard to beat.

Matthews
MacKinnon
Kucherov
Makar

You can make an argument for those 4 in any order
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69 goals wasn't that hard to beat since both Kucherov and MacKinnon did beat Matthews to Hart by an enermous margin last year, despite the 69 goals.
 
i'd give it to MacKinnon over Kucherov just because it's close and he's a Center personally

Pastrnak deserves a mention here, i'd take his 61 goal 110 point season over Matthews 69 goal 107 point one any day considering he lead his team in scoring by 46 points compared to Matthews only leading his by 9
 
McDavid

Kucherov/Mack/Drai

All three guys are in that tier just below. I don't see how you can make a case that one of these guys has separated from the others. The biggest knock on Kuch and Mack is they have had trouble staying healthy. Draisaitl has been consistently healthy and all 3 of them have a Hart trophy. All 3 are among the best in the game in the playoffs.
 
ricky0034 said:
i'd give it to MacKinnon over Kucherov just because it's close and he's a Center personally

Pastrnak deserves a mention here, i'd take his 61 goal 110 point season over Matthews 69 goal 107 point one any day considering he lead his team in scoring by 46 points compared to Matthews only leading his by 9
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Pasta had one great season and a few good ones... every other mentioned had a couple of great seasons.
I see Kuch as Nr.2 on this list and if Drai keeps his season on pace he has a good chance for nr.2.
Every player mentioned has some arguments, so it's close between them.
Matthews also had only one great season same story as Pasta.
 
Pretty tough to pick.. I think MacK, Kucherov and Drai are all right there.

Makar is amazing but a step down with pretender Matthews.
 
bobholly39 said:
I voted Kucherov, but it's 1A/1B with MacKinnon. Last season, they were neck and neck, and that's the best any of these guys have ever been. I lean Kucherov because he's better in playoffs than MacK (and I also prefered his season last year), but close.

Draisaitl for playoff peaks has an argument for #1 overall though. But, in his best runs he has these insane stretches, and then goes cold, wihch is annoying. He wasn't good in the finals last year for example. So, I probably have him #3.

Matthews is 4th I guess, but him and Makar are quite close.



69 goals wasn't that hard to beat since both Kucherov and MacKinnon did beat Matthews to Hart by an enermous margin last year, despite the 69 goals.
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Did they score 70 goals?
 
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