Evilhomer
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After 20 games.......
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conFABulator
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Great summary. I think we would have to include Domi in the elite negative so far, no?
Shesterkin would likely be stopping us in the Conference Final. That would still represent a huge step forward.
Ianturnedbull
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Yeah. He has been off his game. Perhaps injury is taking him off his full ability. He needs to be better. Hopefully he will.
conFABulator
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Yeah, he has been a negative but unlike the other ones there is reason to believe he will get it going soon.
Evilhomer
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That is where I think they will meet. The Leafs will come out of the Atlantic and the Rangers will come out of the Metro.
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It's only 20 games but Stolarz will be nominated for the Vezina
Evilhomer
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I think his biggest risk is his own teammate taking games from him. That said, barring an injury Hellebuyck will win the Vezina again. But Berube will win coach of the year, and Marner will finally win the Selke.
Positives:
*Stolarz and Woll
*McCabe and Tanev pairing, honourable mention, OEL
*Marner and Nylander, or Nylander and Marner...I ain't trying to rank 'em folks
Negatives:
*I'd hoped that Liljegren would pop this year, c'est la vie.
*Robertson, unlike most I believe I see a kid who, while still getting knocked on his ass too much, has substantially cleaned up his game. Far more reliable defensively, but obviously cannot drive his own line. He needs to be playing with someone who can distribute, and another who can power/forecheck, with Nick to finish. His 3.8 shooting % is killing him, but that, should it be here or elsewhere, should revert to career average 10.5%, or hopefully closer to last year's 14.5% avg.
*Secondary scoring has been poor, throughout the bottom six, however constructed.
*Injuries.
Surprises:
*John Tavares, who'd a thunk? I don't go around trashing JT, but he's exceeded my expectations in a big way, huge.
*Culture! Players standing up for each other. Treliving's snot comment finally arriving, player additions, Berube? I don't care, but gosh darn it, I'm happy to see it.
*Conor Timmins and the PK.
Too Early To Say:
*Minten and Grebyonkin, encouraging, but after 1 game? I'll wait a bit on this, but they sure are likeable after that game vs Vegas.
*Stolarz and Woll
*McCabe and Tanev pairing, honourable mention, OEL
*Marner and Nylander, or Nylander and Marner...I ain't trying to rank 'em folks
Negatives:
*I'd hoped that Liljegren would pop this year, c'est la vie.
*Robertson, unlike most I believe I see a kid who, while still getting knocked on his ass too much, has substantially cleaned up his game. Far more reliable defensively, but obviously cannot drive his own line. He needs to be playing with someone who can distribute, and another who can power/forecheck, with Nick to finish. His 3.8 shooting % is killing him, but that, should it be here or elsewhere, should revert to career average 10.5%, or hopefully closer to last year's 14.5% avg.
*Secondary scoring has been poor, throughout the bottom six, however constructed.
*Injuries.
Surprises:
*John Tavares, who'd a thunk? I don't go around trashing JT, but he's exceeded my expectations in a big way, huge.
*Culture! Players standing up for each other. Treliving's snot comment finally arriving, player additions, Berube? I don't care, but gosh darn it, I'm happy to see it.
*Conor Timmins and the PK.
Too Early To Say:
*Minten and Grebyonkin, encouraging, but after 1 game? I'll wait a bit on this, but they sure are likeable after that game vs Vegas.
Positive: best defence and goaltending in decades, three or four legit power forwards, wuss factor lowest in AM era, nice home record.
Negatives: “blue mirage” - a lot of our record is from playing mostly homes games; we are mediocre so far on the road, NR is a veritable bust this year after promising preseason, injuries galore.
Negatives: “blue mirage” - a lot of our record is from playing mostly homes games; we are mediocre so far on the road, NR is a veritable bust this year after promising preseason, injuries galore.
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I think we have a better shot at the Jennings than the Jack Adams.
Not saying they should fight after every hit but seeing scraps after hits like Knies shows this team is at least a little different. This team was so criminally soft against Florida, they got bullied out. Now I’m not sure if it would go that way. The blueline is a lot better too
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Marner Tavares Knies Stolarz all positive. Roberston and Matthews the negatives.
Well, of course, if the playoffs were to begin right now, the Leafs would be facing Shesterkin and the Rangers in round 1. But the playoffs are not beginning right now, so we'll have to wait and see.
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I think you can include the tied for 2nd leading scorer in the NHL as positive, I mean lol. His name is William Nylander.
I like below a lot overall.
Woll
Stolarz
Nylander
Knies
OEL
Tanev
Marner
Timmins
Berube
Dislike a lot to the point I am done with them on the team. The rest is a mix bag of just OK or leaning into the below list.
Robertson
Reaves
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TMLBlueandWhite
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I really hope the Leafs break their regular season points record.
Said no fan ever. Because it's never crossed anybody's mind. I even Googled it just to be sure.
After twenty games they aren't any better than last year.
But their not doing any worse either. If their record is all you went by not much has changed. How they arrived from point A to point B has.
A little more physical and a little less loosey goosey.
The offseason additions for the most part have performed better than I thought they would. The goaltending has been stellar hiding some of the problems. With all the changes I can understand why the team wants fans to focus on the process and not the results.
And while I don't expect them to break their regular season points record if they get past the second round that's good enough for me.
Said no fan ever. Because it's never crossed anybody's mind. I even Googled it just to be sure.
After twenty games they aren't any better than last year.
But their not doing any worse either. If their record is all you went by not much has changed. How they arrived from point A to point B has.
A little more physical and a little less loosey goosey.
The offseason additions for the most part have performed better than I thought they would. The goaltending has been stellar hiding some of the problems. With all the changes I can understand why the team wants fans to focus on the process and not the results.
And while I don't expect them to break their regular season points record if they get past the second round that's good enough for me.
Hey I would love it if we had our best season ever
TMLBlueandWhite
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I would too but only if they had some postseason success as well.
If they went out in the first again after another record breaking regular season it would only magnify the disappointment.
Almost put him as a positive surprise, but I feel more surprised that he's actually being played than the fact that he's doing well.
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Lets keep in mind that Leafs are doing this without their Captain and former Rocket Richard trophy and #1C and best player who eats up $13.25 mil of Leafs cap space.
Auston Matthews has only dressed for 13 of Leafs 20 games.
Leafs sit tied for 6th overall in the standings, and have top 5 goaltending in SV% and GAA.
Willy Nylander tied for 4th in NHL goal scoring at the 1/4 mark has really stepped up his game and filled the goal scoring role lost by the Matthews injury.
Auston Matthews has only dressed for 13 of Leafs 20 games.
Leafs sit tied for 6th overall in the standings, and have top 5 goaltending in SV% and GAA.
Willy Nylander tied for 4th in NHL goal scoring at the 1/4 mark has really stepped up his game and filled the goal scoring role lost by the Matthews injury.
Yeah the playoff season would be depressing, but I would have enjoyed a great 7 months of plenty of victories during the regular season.
Anthrax442
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Great: Vegas game
Terrible: Ottawa game
Like the team's pugnacity. Burkie would approve
Terrible: Ottawa game
Like the team's pugnacity. Burkie would approve
Jimmy Firecracker
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Leafs have two pairings in the top ten here.
Leafs have two pairings in the top ten here.
Tanev and OEL were just what the Leafs needed.
Only 20 games so far but you really couldn't have asked for better results
Evilhomer
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Leafs have two pairings in the top ten here.
So probably the best defensive defenseman in the league is...playing like the best defensive defenseman in the league? Shocking stuff.
