After 10 games.......

[francis246]

I'm not a Dubas lover or hater, but the one thing we know Shanahan is responsible for is blocking the trade that would have dealt Knies as part of a package for Hagel and Fleury.

I don’t think that’s how that went down. Dubas just didn’t accept that offer. Then Chicago’s GM leaked it to the media to get Knies upset because he was pissed Dubas rejected the offer. Dubas confronted Kyle Davidson at the GM meetings.

Knies was a non-starter for both Shanahan and Dubas. Friedman reported this on 22 thoughts. The Shanahan blocked the trade ish was just a rumour.

"The Maple Leafs were like 'We never were gonna do that deal, it was presented to us' and basically, I think I can say it now, both Dubas and Shanahan made it very clear, they were like 'how stupid do you think we are that either one of us would consider making that trade?' and they were adamant that neither one of them wanted to do it and they defended each other. They were like 'The other guy didn't want to do it either.' I think the story I was told, if I remember correctly, was I guess Shanahan was asking 'what's going on out there?' And they were talking about their talks with Chicago so Dubas showed it to Shanahan and Shanahan's like 'we're not doing this' and Dubas was like 'of course we're not doing it, I'm just showing it to you' and apparently they both laughed." - Elliotte Friedman on a trade proposed to the Leafs by Chicago

 

[thewave]

I don’t think that’s how that went down. Dubas just didn’t accept that offer. Then Chicago’s GM leaked it to the media to get Knies upset because he was pissed Dubas rejected the offer. Dubas confronted Kyle Davidson at the GM meetings.

Knies was a non-starter for both Shanahan and Dubas. Friedman reported this on 22 thoughts. The Shanahan blocked the trade ish was just a rumour.

Just jumping in on this. Regardless of how that went down we should all be glad he is still here. The new issue at game 10 is if he keeps tracking like this...

How are we going to pay Knies when the time comes? He looks better than Hyman so.

 

[francis246]

Just jumping in on this. Regardless of how that went down we should all be glad he is still here. The new issue at game 10 is if he keeps tracking like this...

How are we going to pay Knies when the time comes? He looks better than Hyman so.

I think Knies is gonna get around Byfield money which I’m totally good with. Knies at 6.2 or 5.6 at 5-6 years is good. Don’t think he’s quite as good as Alexei Laf so he’ll be under 7. Term will be the battle. Do we pay a little more to get him at 8 years or bridge him. Both come with risk.

 

[Nineteen67]

They have an interesting mix in the next 10 games. All winnable but no real gimmes

 

[Da Mash]

After 10 games who is your biggest surprise and biggest disappointment relative to expectations. (You can have more than one.)

For me,
Surprise
1. Stolarz
2. Max Patch
3. OEL

Disappointment
1. Holmberg
2. Woll

I think you nailed the surprises.

Disappointments?

Mathews. I expect better because he is a elite player and needs to be a leader.
Woll because he is wound too tight it seems.
Coaches.....I expected better special teams.
Robertson......preseason means nothing if you cant translate that to the regular season.
Kampf just because he is just a black hole

 

[DarkKnight]

Why do Leafs fans always apologize for good goaltending? Potvin, Cujo, Belfour, it’s part of the mix for success. We’re the first to lament ass goalies here, when we finally get some saves, suddenly it’s a bandaid over bad play. Ummm no, it’s imperative.

 

[ACC1224]

I think you nailed the surprises.

Disappointments?

Mathews. I expect better because he is a elite player and needs to be a leader.
Woll because he is wound too tight it seems.
Coaches.....I expected better special teams.
Robertson......preseason means nothing if you cant translate that to the regular season.
Kampf just because he is just a black hole

Yeah, can't say I'd argue with any of the 'Disappointments'.
I thought of listing more 'Disappointments' but wanted to balance it with the 'Surprises' .

 

[banks]

Disappointments:

Robertson: I'm still a Robertson supporter, but even I'm wondering if he's getting close to the end of the line.

Liljegren: Time for the team to move on. Send him to Utah for their other 3rd rounder.

Special teams: I still think they'll get this figured out. There's too much talent for the powerplay to be this bad.

On the upside, I've been pretty happy with everything else. I'm not one to overreact to some weak losses early in the season. Overall I think they've shown that the Berube style will work, and almost all the moves form Tre have worked out great so far.

 

[wingman75]

This is a more detailed version of my post.

With one addition being, I think Marner just looks off.

He could be. I find he looks the same. Has been good the last couple games.

 

[Fogelhund]

I'm not sure where else to post this.. but here are the lines in today's practice.

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[Clark4Ever]

My biggest concern is the 3rd line as it's currently constructed. They aren't overly physical or defensively sound and haven't been a threat offensively. We need a 3rd line with some sort of identity.

 

[m1ker]

I don't understand the Kampf hate. This year the 4th line has been our best line for many games and just look at what happened the game he was scratched, the line was complete garbage. He's also been a part of many solid lines that went on runs for stretches like kamp-jarkok. Even the playoffs kampf easily becomes one of our better players.

 

[LeafEgo]

I'm not sure where else to post this.. but here are the lines in today's practice.

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So close. Swap Robo and Holmberg. Swap Mitch and Willy.

 

[Fogelhund]

I don't understand the Kampf hate. This year the 4th line has been our best line for many games and just look at what happened the game he was scratched, the line was complete garbage. He's also been a part of many solid lines that went on runs for stretches like kamp-jarkok. Even the playoffs kampf easily becomes one of our better players.

It's his cap hit. We paid him way too much for a 4th line C. If he was paid $1.2 or $1.5, not many people would complain. He's a decent player though. The challenge is often that his line lacks some identity last year. He's not your physical guy, and his line wasn't great defensively. He needs the right type of players, to maximize his value. Guys who are pretty quick, and effective puck carriers. It's been better this year.

 

[ULF_55]

What? If he wasn't getting chances, then I would agree with you.

I don't stress (or even care) about how well Leafs fair in fantasy hockey.

Has there been any analysis on why he's not scoring?

Shooting percentage is a result, not a cause.

Is his velocity off?
Is he shooting from worse positions?
Is he burdened by the weight of 'C'?