Adjusted save percentage (regular season, 1956-2022)

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This thread replaces an older post that I made on adjusted save percentage. (I stopped updating that one in 2009 - time flies). I won't repeat the methodology in detail, but essentially each goalie's save percentage is normalized to an environment where the league average is 90.5%. I also normalize the schedule to 82 games, and 30 shots per sixty minutes (otherwise certain seasons would count for more/less for reasons outside of a goalie's control). This is very close to the 2006-07 season.

Self-criticisms of this method:
  • Save percentage is affected - perhaps significantly - by the quality of a goalie's team. Are they playing on a dynasty, protected by three Hall of Fame defenseman and a Selke trophy winner? Or are they playing on an expansion team, full of castaways? We now know that there's a significant difference in save percentage at even strength compared to while shorthanded - goalies on teams that are disciplined will have an advantage.
  • Save percentage is, by definition, an average. Like points per game, it tends to decline over time. A goalie who retires at (or shortly after) his peak will have an advantage relative to others who play long, full careers. (This is why I also present a statistic for "best seven years", to try to remove this distortion).
  • Save percentage doesn't take into account how important or "clutch" a save is. A stop in overtime and a stop during a 7-0 blowout count as the same.
  • Save percentage doesn't take into account consistency. One goalie might stop 28 out of 30 shots every game, while another might allow four goals on half the nights, and get a shutout on the others. I suspect (but can't prove) that the first goalie would be more valuable over the long run, even if their save percentage is the same.
  • Save percentage doesn't take into account goalie skills other than stopping the puck. For example, puckhandling is completely ignored. So are intangibles such as a team being willing to take more risks and (hopefully) generate more offense, since they have confidence in their goalie.
  • As I'll discuss in more detail below, what's average changes significantly from year to year. For example, in 1959-60, 82% of the minutes played league-wide was from a Hall of Fame. In that year, multiple Hall of Famers were below average. Twenty years later (1979-80), only three Hall of Famers appeared in as little as 40 games. Due to expansion, the average quality of a goalie in 1979-80 was likely much lower than it was twenty years before - but both seasons are adjusted to the same scoring environment.
  • I rarely add a disclaimer relating to one specific player, but in this case I think it's warranted. Terry Sawchuk's numbers are, frankly, a huge disappointment. But this excludes his five year prime, where he was the first- or second-team all-star five seasons in a row. Keep that in mind when reviewing his numbers.
 

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TABLE 1 - CAREER SAVE PERCENTAGE (1956-2022)

PlayerMinSASavesSv%
Ken Dryden*24,10511,30110,559
93.4%​
Dominik Hasek*44,46522,09020,434
92.5%​
Tony Esposito*54,38727,78225,613
92.2%​
Patrick Roy*62,36930,47528,036
92.0%​
Bernie Parent*37,21418,10016,650
92.0%​
Johnny Bower*31,98316,20214,885
91.9%​
Billy Smith*39,46019,61717,988
91.7%​
Glenn Resch33,02316,44215,066
91.6%​
Jacques Plante*51,84224,84622,758
91.6%​
Tim Thomas24,44813,03711,932
91.5%​
Pete Peeters28,39712,73711,644
91.4%​
Andrei Vasilevskiy23,09711,59510,598
91.4%​
Tuukka Rask34,95216,75415,312
91.4%​
Roberto Luongo60,72632,25929,480
91.4%​
Glenn Hall*61,34729,79327,213
91.3%​
Don Edwards26,79713,10011,965
91.3%​
Tomas Vokoun40,42421,54119,670
91.3%​
John Vanbiesbrouck52,35126,20723,927
91.3%​
Ben Bishop24,63412,02410,974
91.3%​
Henrik Lundqvist53,91626,75524,409
91.2%​
Dan Bouchard38,97819,11217,435
91.2%​
Guy Hebert29,28915,90514,508
91.2%​
Reggie Lemelin28,58414,10012,858
91.2%​
Mike Palmateer20,58610,9049,943
91.2%​
Ed Belfour*57,44426,55424,203
91.1%​
Kelly Hrudey39,83921,42819,530
91.1%​
Doug Favell21,78911,76710,722
91.1%​
Denis Herron26,22114,56713,271
91.1%​
Andy Moog41,85220,26018,457
91.1%​
Daren Puppa25,37312,59211,471
91.1%​
Connor Hellebuyck23,68212,23711,144
91.1%​
Gump Worsley*49,64026,38324,024
91.1%​
Robin Lehner21,99111,71110,664
91.1%​
Curtis Joseph55,37028,57726,022
91.1%​
Glen Hanlon26,62413,71712,490
91.1%​
Martin Brodeur*77,17334,26131,192
91.0%​
Cory Schneider24,64812,20911,114
91.0%​
Corey Crawford29,76914,71113,390
91.0%​
Mike Liut39,04919,22117,493
91.0%​
Manny Legace20,1409,5988,731
91.0%​
Sergei Bobrovsky36,97118,69117,001
91.0%​
Jean-Sebastien Giguere34,36017,41315,838
91.0%​
Ron Hextall36,28017,28715,720
90.9%​
Carey Price44,87422,39720,366
90.9%​
Mike Richter39,61220,81418,924
90.9%​
Pekka Rinne42,09320,49618,633
90.9%​
Tom Barrasso44,70722,74620,676
90.9%​
Frederik Andersen26,84413,51712,287
90.9%​
Semyon Varlamov34,87318,19216,534
90.9%​
Sean Burke48,25225,23622,932
90.9%​
Pat Riggin20,3249,5088,640
90.9%​
Jaroslav Halak33,24516,24114,757
90.9%​
Rick Wamsley23,66811,0069,999
90.8%​
Cam Talbot23,87512,09410,986
90.8%​
Niklas Backstrom25,15812,38511,249
90.8%​
Ryan Miller48,39125,23622,920
90.8%​
John Gibson23,12911,75910,680
90.8%​
Felix Potvin38,13019,50917,715
90.8%​
Jon Casey24,07211,55210,488
90.8%​
Marc-Andre Fleury57,19628,14625,547
90.8%​
Bob Essensa24,24712,39611,251
90.8%​
Evgeni Nabokov41,90520,06718,211
90.7%​
Miikka Kiprusoff37,12118,03216,363
90.7%​
Martin Biron28,85214,70413,340
90.7%​
Braden Holtby31,94116,16314,662
90.7%​
Jeff Hackett28,39614,69013,325
90.7%​
Don Beaupre39,40019,72317,890
90.7%​
Rogie Vachon*48,31522,70720,595
90.7%​
Jonas Hiller23,66211,87710,771
90.7%​
Marty Turco30,95713,94812,648
90.7%​
James Reimer25,74913,70312,422
90.7%​
Craig Anderson40,13921,64919,621
90.6%​
Kari Lehtonen38,24519,95218,082
90.6%​
Cesare Maniago34,66018,48916,754
90.6%​
Ilya Bryzgalov28,17814,01412,697
90.6%​
Mike Dunham21,65311,56010,472
90.6%​
Mike Smith40,87320,90518,934
90.6%​
Jose Theodore37,15019,17217,364
90.6%​
Devan Dubnyk34,84717,63515,970
90.6%​
Olaf Kolzig42,18021,69319,643
90.6%​
Jacob Markstrom24,11312,02510,889
90.5%​
Jimmy Howard32,72516,23514,699
90.5%​
Nikolai Khabibulin47,04224,18221,893
90.5%​
Jonathan Bernier23,69312,40711,233
90.5%​
Jonathan Quick44,02620,20418,291
90.5%​
Stephane Fiset23,04512,22811,070
90.5%​
Gerry Cheevers*25,88212,19311,036
90.5%​
Dwayne Roloson34,29717,61515,941
90.5%​
Ed Giacomin*38,41417,75916,069
90.5%​
Chris Osgood43,28120,05318,144
90.5%​
Chris Terreri22,98911,06910,015
90.5%​
Gilles Meloche46,70624,37622,053
90.5%​
Jake Allen21,34710,2189,244
90.5%​
Grant Fuhr*50,11925,18722,783
90.5%​
Jocelyn Thibault33,49316,99515,372
90.5%​
Antti Niemi28,09313,71812,407
90.4%​
Tommy Salo30,69014,83213,401
90.3%​
Byron Dafoe23,60511,74910,614
90.3%​
Bruce Gamble20,52311,09510,023
90.3%​
Bob Sauve24,25411,24510,157
90.3%​
Steve Mason27,71914,09012,725
90.3%​
Trevor Kidd23,13511,69310,561
90.3%​
Roger Crozier31,60015,68014,161
90.3%​
Brian Elliott30,76314,38712,991
90.3%​
Ron Tugnutt29,86315,07513,611
90.3%​
Patrick Lalime25,24112,06410,892
90.3%​
Arturs Irbe33,37516,58914,975
90.3%​
Mike Vernon46,12821,22819,160
90.3%​
Charlie Hodge22,47010,3119,304
90.2%​
Glenn Healy25,07912,62011,387
90.2%​
Cam Ward40,97620,61718,600
90.2%​
Terry Sawchuk*42,55120,63118,609
90.2%​
Richard Brodeur22,45011,13810,041
90.1%​
Ken Wregget33,54617,95116,179
90.1%​
Greg Millen36,18118,31816,504
90.1%​
Brian Hayward20,44610,0009,009
90.1%​
Gilles Gilbert24,38511,24710,129
90.1%​
Martin Jones23,96611,37310,243
90.1%​
Bill Ranford37,66819,44017,506
90.0%​
Kirk McLean36,93818,16816,352
90.0%​
Gary Smith31,08616,00414,400
90.0%​
Phil Myre26,02313,06811,756
90.0%​
Peter Budaj20,6819,7678,784
89.9%​
Ondrej Pavelec24,11012,55611,288
89.9%​
Tim Cheveldae20,37610,1919,147
89.8%​
Johan Hedberg21,54310,6829,578
89.7%​
Eddie Johnston37,55818,69116,754
89.6%​
Jim Rutherford26,73713,32011,899
89.3%​
Ron Low21,03811,36110,100
88.9%​

This table lists all 129 goalies who have faced at least 20,000 (adjusted) minutes from 1955-56 to present. That's the equivalent of around 330 games.

Ken Dryden is in first place by a comfortable margin. But keep in mind the disclaimer I gave before. Dryden played on arguably the best team of all-time (which probably helped his numbers), and he retired during his prime (which definitely helped his numbers - as his career-average save percentage doesn't reflect any declines).

I still see people directly compare Dominik Hasek's numbers to Patrick Roy's, without taking into account the scoring environments. Roy played the first half of his career in a much higher-scoring league, and that resulted in a deflated save percentage. Hasek is still ahead, but it's much closer than the raw numbers suggest.

Tony Esposito performs extremely well here. His playoff struggles are well-known (and overstated, more often than not). But he was an exceptional regular season goalie, performing well above the league average for extended periods of time.

NOTE - this commentary was written in 2018 but I'm not updating it each year going forward.
 
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TABLE 2 - GOALS VERSUS AVERAGE - CAREER

PlayerGVA
Tony Esposito*470.3
Patrick Roy*456.2
Dominik Hasek*442.2
Ken Dryden*331.2
Roberto Luongo285.4
Jacques Plante*272.4
Bernie Parent*269.0
Glenn Hall*250.8
Billy Smith*234.9
Johnny Bower*222.0
John Vanbiesbrouck210.2
Henrik Lundqvist195.5
Glenn Resch186.0
Martin Brodeur*185.3
Tomas Vokoun176.1
Ed Belfour*171.2
Curtis Joseph159.6
Tuukka Rask149.1
Gump Worsley*147.6
Dan Bouchard138.3
Kelly Hrudey137.8
Tim Thomas134.0
Andy Moog122.3
Pete Peeters116.8
Guy Hebert114.6
Don Edwards109.1
Andrei Vasilevskiy104.8
Mike Liut98.3
Reggie Lemelin97.7
Carey Price96.2
Sean Burke93.5
Ben Bishop92.8
Tom Barrasso91.3
Denis Herron88.4
Mike Richter86.6
Sergei Bobrovsky85.5
Pekka Rinne84.4
Ryan Miller81.8
Jean-Sebastien Giguere79.0
Glen Hanlon75.9
Corey Crawford75.8
Marc-Andre Fleury75.1
Daren Puppa75.0
Ron Hextall74.9
Mike Palmateer74.6
Doug Favell72.6
Semyon Varlamov70.6
Connor Hellebuyck69.2
Robin Lehner65.5
Cory Schneider64.3
Felix Potvin59.6
Jaroslav Halak59.1
Frederik Andersen53.6
Evgeni Nabokov49.9
Rogie Vachon*44.9
Manny Legace44.8
Miikka Kiprusoff44.4
Cam Talbot41.4
Niklas Backstrom40.3
Don Beaupre39.9
Rick Wamsley38.4
John Gibson37.6
Pat Riggin35.2
Braden Holtby34.6
Jon Casey33.8
Martin Biron33.5
Bob Essensa32.5
Jeff Hackett30.7
Craig Anderson28.6
Kari Lehtonen25.4
Marty Turco25.0
Jonas Hiller22.8
James Reimer21.2
Cesare Maniago21.1
Mike Smith15.3
Ilya Bryzgalov14.4
Jose Theodore13.3
Olaf Kolzig11.1
Devan Dubnyk10.8
Mike Dunham10.2
Nikolai Khabibulin8.4
Jonathan Quick6.3
Jacob Markstrom5.9
Jimmy Howard5.9
Jonathan Bernier4.1
Stephane Fiset3.3
Gerry Cheevers*1.2
Dwayne Roloson(0.0)
Chris Terreri(2.8)
Ed Giacomin*(3.2)
Jake Allen(3.3)
Chris Osgood(3.8)
Gilles Meloche(7.3)
Antti Niemi(7.9)
Jocelyn Thibault(8.0)
Grant Fuhr*(10.8)
Bruce Gamble(18.3)
Byron Dafoe(18.9)
Bob Sauve(19.5)
Trevor Kidd(21.8)
Tommy Salo(22.4)
Patrick Lalime(25.9)
Steve Mason(26.2)
Charlie Hodge(27.3)
Brian Elliott(29.5)
Roger Crozier(30.1)
Ron Tugnutt(32.0)
Glenn Healy(33.6)
Arturs Irbe(38.6)
Richard Brodeur(39.1)
Brian Hayward(40.5)
Gilles Gilbert(49.3)
Martin Jones(49.9)
Mike Vernon(50.8)
Peter Budaj(55.1)
Cam Ward(57.9)
Terry Sawchuk*(61.9)
Ken Wregget(66.6)
Phil Myre(70.4)
Greg Millen(73.9)
Ondrej Pavelec(76.1)
Tim Cheveldae(76.3)
Gary Smith(83.5)
Bill Ranford(87.6)
Johan Hedberg(89.0)
Kirk McLean(89.5)
Jim Rutherford(155.6)
Eddie Johnston(161.3)
Ron Low(181.4)

Goals versus average is a statistic that compares the number of goals each goalie saves/allows, relative to the league average. The nice thing about this statistic is it's designed so that in each season, the total for the league always equals zero. (For the goalies making saves above the league average rate, there are others making saves at below the league average).

Once again, all 129 goalies who have faced at least 20,000 (adjusted) minutes are presented here. For the most part, the results are as expected.

Keep in mind that a player performing at around the league average for an extended period of time is going to have a score of around zero. For example, Chris Osgood was, for the most part, a very average netminder, but he played in close to 750 games. There's clearly value in being an average goalie for long periods of time - we'll see this in the next table I present.

I figured he'd be in the top ten, but I was surprised to see Tony Esposito rank first. Other than that, the top of the list is fairly close to how I would have imagined it.

Terry Sawchuk is near the bottom of the list. There's no question that from 1956 onwards, he wasn't a great goalie. But, as I said in my first post, this ignores his five-year peak, which many claim is one of the best peaks in goalie history.

NOTE - this commentary was written in 2018 but I'm not updating it each year going forward.
 
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TABLE 3 - GOALS VERSUS THRESHOLD - CAREER

PlayerGVT
Patrick Roy*1,145.7
Tony Esposito*1,098.9
Roberto Luongo1,015.3
Martin Brodeur*960.5
Dominik Hasek*942.0
Glenn Hall*924.9
Jacques Plante*834.5
Curtis Joseph806.1
John Vanbiesbrouck803.1
Henrik Lundqvist800.8
Ed Belfour*772.0
Gump Worsley*744.5
Marc-Andre Fleury711.9
Billy Smith*678.7
Bernie Parent*678.5
Sean Burke664.4
Tomas Vokoun663.5
Ryan Miller652.8
Kelly Hrudey622.7
Tom Barrasso605.9
Carey Price602.9
Johnny Bower*588.5
Ken Dryden*586.9
Andy Moog580.7
Dan Bouchard570.7
Grant Fuhr*559.1
Rogie Vachon*558.6
Glenn Resch558.0
Mike Richter557.6
Nikolai Khabibulin555.5
Pekka Rinne548.1
Gilles Meloche544.2
Mike Liut533.2
Tuukka Rask528.2
Craig Anderson518.4
Sergei Bobrovsky508.4
Evgeni Nabokov503.9
Olaf Kolzig501.9
Felix Potvin501.0
Mike Smith488.3
Don Beaupre486.1
Semyon Varlamov482.2
Kari Lehtonen476.8
Guy Hebert474.4
Jean-Sebastien Giguere473.0
Ron Hextall466.0
Jonathan Quick463.4
Miikka Kiprusoff452.3
Chris Osgood449.9
Jose Theodore447.0
Cesare Maniago439.4
Mike Vernon429.5
Tim Thomas429.0
Jaroslav Halak426.5
Denis Herron418.0
Reggie Lemelin416.7
Devan Dubnyk409.8
Corey Crawford408.7
Cam Ward408.5
Don Edwards405.4
Pete Peeters405.0
Terry Sawchuk*404.9
Braden Holtby400.3
Ed Giacomin*398.6
Dwayne Roloson398.5
Glen Hanlon386.3
Jocelyn Thibault376.5
Jimmy Howard373.2
Andrei Vasilevskiy367.1
Martin Biron366.2
Ben Bishop364.9
Jeff Hackett363.0
Daren Puppa359.9
Frederik Andersen359.5
Bill Ranford352.3
Connor Hellebuyck346.0
Marty Turco340.6
Cory Schneider340.5
Greg Millen340.5
Ken Wregget339.6
Doug Favell338.9
Arturs Irbe336.7
Ilya Bryzgalov331.4
James Reimer331.2
Robin Lehner330.4
Roger Crozier324.7
Kirk McLean321.5
Mike Palmateer321.3
Niklas Backstrom320.5
Cam Talbot315.0
Tommy Salo313.2
Bob Essensa312.9
Ron Tugnutt309.1
John Gibson303.6
Antti Niemi302.5
Brian Elliott296.0
Jon Casey295.2
Steve Mason292.6
Jonas Hiller291.5
Rick Wamsley287.4
Jonathan Bernier284.8
Stephane Fiset279.9
Gary Smith278.6
Jacob Markstrom278.0
Gerry Cheevers*277.1
Mike Dunham271.7
Manny Legace262.0
Eddie Johnston261.6
Glenn Healy251.9
Pat Riggin250.3
Chris Terreri247.6
Patrick Lalime247.0
Byron Dafoe247.0
Trevor Kidd242.8
Bob Sauve234.9
Bruce Gamble232.7
Jake Allen227.9
Phil Myre225.3
Richard Brodeur212.9
Ondrej Pavelec208.0
Martin Jones207.4
Charlie Hodge206.0
Gilles Gilbert205.2
Brian Hayward185.7
Peter Budaj165.8
Tim Cheveldae154.3
Johan Hedberg152.7
Jim Rutherford145.8
Ron Low75.6

Goals versus threshold compares the number of goals each goalie saves/allows, relative to a theoretical borderline NHLer. I've arbitrarily set the threshold save percentage in each season at 97.5% of the league average. This isn't scientific, but it looks about right. The theory is any goalie who's about 97.5% as good as the league average is just below the cusp of being an NHL player. If they're playing in the NHL, they're most likely a prospect who the team is trying to develop; an old veteran with an expensive contract; or an injury replacement. Since there are plenty of goalies in the minor leagues who are roughly at this level, a GM should be able to get a netminder of this quality for minimal consideration.

The reason I like this statistic is it shows that there's value in being an average (or even below-average) goalie. Even a below-average goalie has value in the sense that the coach isn't force to play someone who isn't even NHL calibre.

This statistic tends to reward players with longer career. Ken Dryden dominated the first two tables, but he fares much worse here.

Martin Brodeur, who spent a long stretch of his career stopping the puck at close to league average level, skyrockets to 4th place, as there was significant value in him playing so many games, even if it was at a lower level than, say, Dryden or Hasek.

Henrik Lundqvist - a remarkably consistent, dependable goalie - ranks particularly well here. He's in 10th place, just above Ed Belfour, which feels about right (at least when looking at the regular season).

NOTE - this commentary was written in 2018 but I'm not updating it each year going forward.
 
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TABLE 4 - PEAK SAVE PERCENTAGE (1956-2022)

PlayerAdj Sv%
Ken Dryden*
93.4%​
Dominik Hasek*
93.2%​
Tony Esposito*
92.9%​
Patrick Roy*
92.9%​
Bernie Parent*
92.6%​
Glenn Resch
92.3%​
John Vanbiesbrouck
92.2%​
Jacques Plante*
92.1%​
Ed Belfour*
92.0%​
Roberto Luongo
92.0%​
Dan Bouchard
91.9%​
Martin Brodeur*
91.9%​
Glenn Hall*
91.9%​
Tom Barrasso
91.9%​
Curtis Joseph
91.8%​
Johnny Bower*
91.8%​
Tomas Vokoun
91.8%​
Henrik Lundqvist
91.7%​
Tuukka Rask
91.7%​
Rogie Vachon*
91.7%​
Sean Burke
91.7%​
Kelly Hrudey
91.7%​
Andy Moog
91.7%​
Carey Price
91.5%​
Pekka Rinne
91.5%​
Mike Liut
91.5%​
Sergei Bobrovsky
91.5%​
Tim Thomas
91.5%​
Ron Hextall
91.5%​
Guy Hebert
91.4%​
Cesare Maniago
91.4%​
Grant Fuhr*
91.3%​
Jean-Sebastien Giguere
91.3%​
Marc-Andre Fleury
91.3%​
Gump Worsley*
91.3%​
Ryan Miller
91.3%​
Semyon Varlamov
91.3%​
Nikolai Khabibulin
91.3%​
Evgeni Nabokov
91.3%​
Felix Potvin
91.2%​
Corey Crawford
91.2%​
Dwayne Roloson
91.2%​
Don Beaupre
91.2%​
Gilles Meloche
91.2%​
Devan Dubnyk
91.2%​
Jose Theodore
91.2%​
Jonathan Quick
91.1%​
Mike Smith
91.1%​
Ed Giacomin*
91.1%​
Mike Richter
91.0%​
Olaf Kolzig
91.0%​
Craig Anderson
91.0%​
Kari Lehtonen
91.0%​
Braden Holtby
91.0%​
Miikka Kiprusoff
91.0%​
Chris Osgood
91.0%​
Mike Vernon
91.0%​
Gerry Cheevers*
90.9%​
Jonas Hiller
90.8%​
Jimmy Howard
90.8%​
Kirk McLean
90.7%​
Marty Turco
90.7%​
Cam Ward
90.7%​
Jocelyn Thibault
90.6%​
Tommy Salo
90.5%​
Steve Mason
90.5%​
Greg Millen
90.4%​
Terry Sawchuk*
90.3%​
Bill Ranford
90.2%​

As I mentioned before, save percentage is a career average, and therefore it can be significantly distorted when comparing players who had careers of significantly different lengths. To adjust for this, the next three tables are based on a goalie's seven best years. (There's no magic to seven, but I figured it's long enough to capture a goalie's prime, without falling into their declining years).

In order to qualify, the goalie needed to play 2,400 (adjusted) minutes, otherwise the season is excluded entirely. As an example, Miika Kiprusoff's brilliant 2004 campaign fell just below this threshold, so it's ignored. After filtering out the short seasons, save percentage is re-calculated as a weighted average. Only the 69 goalies with enough seasons to qualify are presented here.

Remember what I said before about Dryden's career being all peak? Peak versus peak, Dryden is still in the lead, but it's very close between him and Hasek.

Bernie Parent, with a fairly short but very high peak, moves into 5th place. If I used a shorter time frame (top three or top five years), he'd rank even higher.

NOTE - this commentary was written in 2018 but I'm not updating it each year going forward.
 
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TABLE 5 - GOALS VERSUS AVERAGE - PEAK (top 100)

Dominik Hasek*369.3
Tony Esposito*325.1
Ken Dryden*319.9
Patrick Roy*274.4
Bernie Parent*244.4
Jacques Plante*241.2
Roberto Luongo210.1
Glenn Resch208.4
Glenn Hall*200.2
Curtis Joseph198.8
Billy Smith*198.6
John Vanbiesbrouck194.1
Johnny Bower*189.6
Martin Brodeur*186.2
Ed Belfour*183.3
Tomas Vokoun169.3
Henrik Lundqvist167.7
Kelly Hrudey152.8
Dan Bouchard150.8
Tom Barrasso150.0
Sean Burke146.9
Tim Thomas143.2
Mike Liut139.2
Tuukka Rask137.6
Don Edwards136.6
Rogie Vachon*135.6
Denis Herron134.8
Carey Price134.7
Gump Worsley*132.2
Guy Hebert131.8
Mike Richter130.7
Andy Moog130.7
Miikka Kiprusoff128.4
Pete Peeters125.3
Reggie Lemelin124.9
Pekka Rinne124.5
Sergei Bobrovsky121.0
Grant Fuhr*118.3
Don Beaupre116.5
Ron Hextall115.3
Doug Favell112.4
Jean-Sebastien Giguere111.5
Roland Melanson110.3
Ryan Miller109.1
Andrei Vasilevskiy107.8
Felix Potvin107.7
Daren Puppa106.8
Craig Anderson105.0
Gilles Meloche104.4
Glen Hanlon103.6
Semyon Varlamov102.2
Ben Bishop101.9
Nikolai Khabibulin101.2
Mike Palmateer100.3
Cory Schneider98.2
Jose Theodore97.1
Marc-Andre Fleury96.7
Olaf Kolzig95.4
Bob Froese94.8
Evgeni Nabokov93.9
Jeff Hackett90.1
Cesare Maniago90.0
Manny Fernandez89.2
Corey Crawford88.2
Dwayne Roloson86.4
Mike Smith84.4
Robin Lehner84.1
Devan Dubnyk83.6
Bob Essensa80.9
Jon Casey79.0
Rick Wamsley78.4
Juuse Saros77.7
Braden Holtby77.4
Jaroslav Halak76.2
Jonathan Quick74.2
Ed Giacomin*74.1
Niklas Backstrom73.9
Darcy Kuemper73.8
Clint Malarchuk70.7
Marty Turco70.3
Connor Hellebuyck69.2
Cam Talbot67.4
Kari Lehtonen67.0
Frederik Andersen66.3
Igor Shesterkin65.4
Jimmy Howard65.3
Mark Fitzpatrick64.7
Roman Cechmanek63.5
Ilya Bryzgalov63.2
Anton Khudobin62.2
Gerry Cheevers*61.9
Manny Legace61.8
Philipp Grubauer60.7
Mike Vernon60.4
Chris Osgood59.8
Martin Biron59.3
Bruce Gamble58.2
Murray Bannerman57.5
Pelle Lindbergh56.3
Antti Raanta55.6

Under this method, Hasek clearly had the best peak in NHL history (dating back to 1956 anyway). It's a combination of his high level of play relative to the average goalie, combined with a solid workload.

NOTE - this commentary was written in 2018 but I'm not updating it each year going forward.
 
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TABLE 6 - GOALS VERSUS THRESHOLD - PEAK (top 100)

Dominik Hasek*691.5
Tony Esposito*650.1
Ken Dryden*570.9
Glenn Hall*565.0
Patrick Roy*546.6
Roberto Luongo546.4
Jacques Plante*536.9
Curtis Joseph526.2
Bernie Parent*517.6
Martin Brodeur*487.7
Henrik Lundqvist472.8
Tomas Vokoun469.2
Ed Belfour*464.9
Gump Worsley*461.9
Johnny Bower*460.2
John Vanbiesbrouck452.5
Carey Price426.0
Sean Burke425.3
Kelly Hrudey418.2
Guy Hebert418.0
Miikka Kiprusoff416.6
Glenn Resch415.7
Felix Potvin411.5
Rogie Vachon*410.9
Ryan Miller407.4
Pekka Rinne405.0
Mike Liut403.1
Tim Thomas402.8
Olaf Kolzig401.8
Tom Barrasso400.2
Sergei Bobrovsky397.8
Billy Smith*397.2
Dan Bouchard386.1
Tuukka Rask385.0
Grant Fuhr*380.2
Mike Richter378.6
Evgeni Nabokov377.9
Ron Hextall372.7
Nikolai Khabibulin372.4
Don Edwards364.4
Jean-Sebastien Giguere363.1
Denis Herron362.9
Devan Dubnyk359.2
Marc-Andre Fleury356.7
Andrei Vasilevskiy356.2
Jose Theodore354.9
Kari Lehtonen354.3
Semyon Varlamov350.6
Connor Hellebuyck346.0
Ed Giacomin*342.2
Andy Moog341.5
Braden Holtby339.9
Mike Smith338.6
Ben Bishop338.4
Jonathan Quick338.4
Dwayne Roloson334.0
Craig Anderson333.5
Gilles Meloche332.0
Corey Crawford329.2
Mike Palmateer324.4
Frederik Andersen323.9
Cesare Maniago323.7
Reggie Lemelin321.9
Niklas Backstrom319.3
Daren Puppa318.4
Arturs Irbe317.6
Doug Favell314.6
Don Beaupre314.6
Jeff Hackett309.5
Cory Schneider308.8
Cam Ward308.4
Jimmy Howard307.7
Ilya Bryzgalov303.6
Martin Biron299.2
Glen Hanlon297.1
Tommy Salo296.7
Chris Osgood294.4
Bill Ranford294.1
Pete Peeters292.6
Mike Vernon291.8
Terry Sawchuk*291.8
Jocelyn Thibault290.5
Marty Turco288.4
Antti Niemi288.1
Kirk McLean284.3
John Gibson283.1
Cam Talbot282.6
Jon Casey280.0
Jonas Hiller275.3
Roger Crozier275.2
Jaroslav Halak273.5
Bob Essensa273.1
Robin Lehner272.1
Clint Malarchuk265.4
Steve Mason265.2
Jacob Markstrom264.6
Manny Fernandez263.7
Byron Dafoe256.1
James Reimer253.6
Mike Dunham252.3

Not a huge difference compared to the previous table. Generally the players who rank higher here tend to be workhorses (Roberto Luongo, Olaf Kolzig, Miikka Kiprusoff) and thus are able to put more distance between themselves and the theoretical threshold/marginal goalie.

NOTE - this commentary was written in 2018 but I'm not updating it each year going forward.
 
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TABLE 8 - COMPARISON OF VEZINA WINNER AND LEADER IN GVA OR GVT

YearTrophyGVAGVT
1955-56Jacques Plante*Jacques Plante*Gump Worsley*
1956-57Glenn Hall*Glenn Hall*Glenn Hall*
1957-58Glenn Hall*Jacques Plante*Jacques Plante*
1958-59Jacques Plante*Jacques Plante*Jacques Plante*
1959-60Glenn Hall*Johnny Bower*Johnny Bower*
1960-61Johnny Bower*Johnny Bower*Glenn Hall*
1961-62Jacques Plante*Jacques Plante*Jacques Plante*
1962-63Glenn Hall*Glenn Hall*Gump Worsley*
1963-64Glenn Hall*Glenn Hall*Glenn Hall*
1964-65Roger CrozierGlenn Hall*Roger Crozier
1965-66Glenn Hall*Johnny Bower*Glenn Hall*
1966-67Ed Giacomin*Denis DeJordyEd Giacomin*
1967-68Gump Worsley*Bruce GambleBruce Gamble
1968-69Glenn Hall*Jacques Plante*Bernie Parent*
1969-70Tony Esposito*Tony Esposito*Tony Esposito*
1970-71Ed Giacomin*Jacques Plante*Jacques Plante*
1971-72Tony Esposito*Ken Dryden*Ken Dryden*
1972-73Ken Dryden*Ken Dryden*Ken Dryden*
1973-74Bernie Parent*Bernie Parent*Bernie Parent*
1974-75Bernie Parent*Rogie Vachon*Rogie Vachon*
1975-76Ken Dryden*Ken Dryden*Ken Dryden*
1976-77Ken Dryden*Ken Dryden*Tony Esposito*
1977-78Ken Dryden*Tony Esposito*Tony Esposito*
1978-79Ken Dryden*Mike PalmateerMike Palmateer
1979-80Tony Esposito*Tony Esposito*Tony Esposito*
1980-81Mike LiutMike LiutTony Esposito*
1981-82Billy Smith*Grant Fuhr*Grant Fuhr*
1982-83Pete PeetersPete PeetersPete Peeters
1983-84Tom BarrassoRoland MelansonMurray Bannerman
1984-85Pelle LindberghPelle LindberghPelle Lindbergh
1985-86John VanbiesbrouckKelly HrudeyKelly Hrudey
1986-87Ron HextallRon HextallRon Hextall
1987-88Grant Fuhr*Tom BarrassoTom Barrasso
1988-89Patrick Roy*Patrick Roy*Jon Casey
1989-90Patrick Roy*Patrick Roy*Patrick Roy*
1990-91Ed Belfour*Ed Belfour*Ed Belfour*
1991-92Patrick Roy*Patrick Roy*Patrick Roy*
1992-93Ed Belfour*Curtis JosephCurtis Joseph
1993-94Dominik Hasek*John VanbiesbrouckJohn Vanbiesbrouck
1994-95Dominik Hasek*Dominik Hasek*Dominik Hasek*
1995-96Jim CareyDominik Hasek*Dominik Hasek*
1996-97Dominik Hasek*Dominik Hasek*Dominik Hasek*
1997-98Dominik Hasek*Dominik Hasek*Dominik Hasek*
1998-99Dominik Hasek*Dominik Hasek*Dominik Hasek*
1999-00Olaf KolzigOlaf KolzigOlaf Kolzig
2000-01Dominik Hasek*Sean BurkeSean Burke
2001-02Jose TheodoreJose TheodoreJose Theodore
2002-03Martin Brodeur*Marty TurcoEd Belfour*
2003-04Martin Brodeur*Roberto LuongoRoberto Luongo
2005-06Miikka KiprusoffMiikka KiprusoffRoberto Luongo
2006-07Martin Brodeur*Martin Brodeur*Martin Brodeur*
2007-08Martin Brodeur*Martin Brodeur*Tomas Vokoun
2008-09Tim ThomasTim ThomasTim Thomas
2009-10Ryan MillerRyan MillerRyan Miller
2010-11Tim ThomasTim ThomasTim Thomas
2011-12Henrik LundqvistMike SmithMike Smith
2012-13Sergei BobrovskySergei BobrovskySergei Bobrovsky
2013-14Tuukka RaskSemyon VarlamovSemyon Varlamov
2014-15Carey PriceCarey PriceCarey Price
2015-16Braden HoltbyBen BishopBen Bishop
2016-17Sergei BobrovskySergei BobrovskySergei Bobrovsky
2017-18Pekka RinnePekka RinneConnor Hellebuyck
2018-19Andrei VasilevskiyBen BishopAndrei Vasilevskiy
2019-20Connor HellebuyckTuukka RaskConnor Hellebuyck
2020-21Marc-Andre FleurySemyon VarlamovAndrei Vasilevskiy

This table shows the Vezina trophy winner (first-team all-star prior to 1981-82), the best goalie according to Goals Versus Average, and the best goalie according to Goals Versus Threshold.

GVA agrees with the actual trophy winner 37 times (in 65 years), while GVT agrees with the actual trophy winner 33 times. GVA and GVT agree with each other 47 times.

The players who have led the league multiple times based on GVA are Plante (6x), Hasek (5x), Hall (4x), Dryden (4x), Bower (3x), Esposito (3x), Roy (3x), Brodeur (2x), Thomas (2x), Bobrovsky (2x), Bishop (2x) and Varlamov (2x).

The players who have led the league multiple times based on GVT are Esposito (5x), Hasek (5x), Plante (4x), Hall (4x), Dryden (3x), Worsley (2x), Parent (2x), Roy (2x), Belfour (2x), Luongo (2x), Thomas (2x), Bobrovsky (2x), Hellebuyck (2x), and Vasilevskiy (2x).

There have been 26 instances where there's a three-way agreement between the Vezina/FAST winner, the GVA leader, and the GVT leader. This has been achieved on multiple occasions by Dominik Hasek (4x), Jacques Plante (2x), Tony Esposito (2x), Ken Dryden (2x), Patrick Roy (2x), Tim Thomas (2x), and Sergei Bobrovsky (2x).
 
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-Dryden is the best. His backup goalie had a 2% worse save percentage then Dryden. So people can claim Montreal was stacked upon stacked, but the backup goalie for Montreal was garbage in comparison to Dryden on that stacked teams. That needs to sink in.
 

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-Dryden is the best. His backup goalie had a 2% worse save percentage then Dryden. So people can claim Montreal was stacked upon stacked, but the backup goalie for Montreal was garbage in comparison to Dryden on that stacked teams. That needs to sink in.

I'm not going to fact-check the number provided (although your success rate in providing accurate numbers to this forum is inconsistent at best).

Assuming that your number is true, couldn't that also manifest as Dryden's backups not being good?
 
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Terry Sawchuk is near the bottom of the list. There's no question that from 1956 onwards, he wasn't a great goalie. But, as I said in my first post, this ignores his five-year peak, which many claim is one of the best peaks in goalie history.

One of my current projects is an attempt to estimate Sawchuk's save percentages for his prime years. It's been slow going so far.
 

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-Dryden is the best. His backup goalie had a 2% worse save percentage then Dryden. So people can claim Montreal was stacked upon stacked, but the backup goalie for Montreal was garbage in comparison to Dryden on that stacked teams. That needs to sink in.

Lots of goalies could beat Larocque by 2%. In 1980 Denis Herron beat him 2.7%. In 1981 Sevigny beat him by 2.7%. Intra-team comparsions can be a high bar for some and a lower bar for others.
 

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Very interesting data and read. Thanks for putting it together, with explanations.

Tony Esposito ends up looking pretty good here. Dryden and Hasek dominate. Also, Roberto Luongo has fashioned a nice career.
 
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Great job.

Just one comment - any metric that compares players to the league average tends to overrate star players from the 1970s, who played when the league average was weaker (due to rapid expansion, the WHA, and no European talent).

Thanks! And agreed - I was trying to explain this with my 2nd-last disclaimer in my first post, but you explained it more concisely. That probably explains some of Esposito's higher-than-expected ranking.
 

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Thanks! And agreed - I was trying to explain this with my 2nd-last disclaimer in my first post, but you explained it more concisely. That probably explains some of Esposito's higher-than-expected ranking.
Dryden too???
 

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This thread has been updated for 2019. Not a lot of changes - it was generally a young/inexperienced group of goalies who had top seasons this year.

Lundqvist (slightly) decrease his career GVA this year, but remains in 12th place. Price had a solid season and now ranks 27th (one spot ahead of Rinne, who also had a fairly good campaign). Luongo had a bad season by his standards, but remains in 5th all-time. Quick cut his career GVA in half due to a horrendous campaign. Bishop led the league in GVA and now ranks 38th all-time.

Luongo remains in 3rd place all-time in GVT. Lundqvist climbs to 10th - one more season like this could get him to 8th.

NOTE - I realized there was a methodology error in the previous set of numbers I posted (from 2018), which impacted the calculation of peak GVA and GVT for some netminders. This has now been fixed.
 

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Goals vs Average Career as a per game stat would be interesting.

Thomas really shines on that one being in the top 3rd despite the low # of games played. Wonder how much he would go up the list in a per game look.

Overall interesting to see him so high up on most of the breakdowns. To me it strengthens the case for him in the HOF despite the shorter peak.
 

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This entire thread has been updated for 2020. One interesting note - both GVA and GVT are more accurate at predicting the Vezina than I previously thought (I had a formula error before) - 59% and 51% accuracy, respectively, going back to 1956. Both percentages are higher post-1990.

The three Vezina favourites for 2020 are Rask, Hellebuyck and Khudobin (a distant third) according to GVA, and Hellebuyck, Rask and Vasilevskiy according to GVT.

I didn't make any adjustments to take into account the fact that different teams played different number of games due to the COVID-shortened season. I treated the season as if it was 70 games (even though some teams played up to one extra or two fewer games). So there's going to be some distortion in the peak and career numbers, but it should be minuscule.

Several prominent goalies hurt their career save percentage with poor performances this year (Rinne, Holtby, Bobrovsky). But that's the benefit of looking at peak numbers - Rinne et al can drag down their career average, but it doesn't change how good they were at their best.

This might have been Lundqvist's final season. His performance this year was below the league average (but still well above replacement level). He remains in 10th place in career GVT.
 
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Thanks.
This is an incredible resource.

Is Table 6 mislabelled? It now has the tame title as Table 5 but I believe it should be "GOALS VERSUS THRESHOLD - PEAK" rather than "GOALS VERSUS AVERAGE - PEAK"
 

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Thanks.
This is an incredible resource.

Is Table 6 mislabelled? It now has the tame title as Table 5 but I believe it should be "GOALS VERSUS THRESHOLD - PEAK" rather than "GOALS VERSUS AVERAGE - PEAK"

Thanks! Good catch - Table 6 was mislabeled. I've updated that now.
 

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This entire thread has been updated for 2021. I'll give my standard disclaimer - all data has been presented in good faith, but if you see any errors, let me know.

At age 36, Marc-Andre Fleury had the best season of his career. His career save percentage is only slighly above average, but playing at that level for a long time (nearly 900 regular season games) has resulted in the 15th highest GVT.

Andrei Vasilevskiy is in the middle of a strong four year run - one Vezina, two third-place finishes, and almost certainly being a finalist again this year. He's finished 9th, 2nd, 8th and 2nd in GVA, and 5th, 1st, 3rd and 1st in GVT. (He generally does better in GVT because he's a workhorse).

Braden Holtby, now in Vancouver, had his second consecutive season as one of the worst goalies in the NHL. That drags down his career save percentage to barely above league average. But nothing changes how good he was at his peak; that's the value in showing numbers for a goalie's best seven years.
 

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This entire thread has been updated for 2022. I'll give my standard disclaimer - all data has been presented in good faith, but if you see any errors, let me know.

Igor Shesterkin had an outstanding season. He has the 15th highest adjusted-for-era save percentage going back to 1955-56 (and highest result since Hasek's 1998-99 campaign) - with a minimum of 3,000 adjusted minutes. The downside in looking at adjusted save percentage is a goalie is either over the threshold, or the result gets tossed away. As an example, Tony Esposito's 1972 campaign (where he has an even higher save percentage than Shesterkin, but he only played 2,920 adjusted minutes) gets ignored entirely. That's why I prefer looking at GVA and GVT (which are explained above). There's no arbitrary threshold for a goalie to reach. Shesterkin still does well, but less so than before, because he only played in 53 games.

Andrei Vasilevskiy had another good year. He currently ranks 12th all-time in save percentage (minutes 20,000 adjusted minutes). He's a great goalie, of course, but he's only 27 and he hasn't seen his numbers decline due to age (like Roberto Luongo, who maintained the same adjusted save percentage over more than 2.5x as many games). He already ranks 27th in GVA (that, of course, can increase or decrease over time) and he's 69th in GVT (which is remarkable for a goalie who's only played in 365 games - and GVT can decrease as well, but since a goalie gets credit just for showing up, it's hard).

Marc-Andre Fleury was only slightly above league average but, as I've explained before, there's some value in being average (or even a bit below average), as it ensures your team doesn't need to play a replacement-level goalie. Fleury had 39.4 GVT, which believe it or not pushes him to 13th place all-time.

Both GVA and GVT suggest Igor Shesterkin will be the Vezina winner this year. This appears to be a safe bet.
 

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