Adding a D, what are your pairings?

[Jojalu]

Fair enough about giving him fewer minutes. I'd still have to disagree with 22 games being a good sample size though when the player in question has 771 NHL games under his belt.

It's also a little misleading.

The 22 games only cover the past 2 years.

I believe someone posted the overall record for the Leafs for his career.

 

[seanlinden]

Will Borgen

That'd be a pretty solid idea IMO... but Seattle is of course in no rush to get rid of him.

 

[seanlinden]

22 games is a pretty good sample size. Clearly he is not being moved so I believe the solution is to give him fewer minutes. Still find it funny when he is down low at the goal line when he is the only dman on the PP.

The same thing used to happen with Sundin back in the day. The Leafs record without him in the lineup was astonishing as well.

When teams lose an important piece, especially when it's "short term" -- they tend to all step up a little bit more.

edit: Factor in the circumstances around this one -- the true leader of the team, who went half the season logging huge minutes and not taking a single penalty, and only had the streak blown by what should have been somebody else's call... taking a retaliatory penalty to stand up for the team's "honour"... it a very easy rallying cry.

 

[Buds17]

It's also a little misleading.

The 22 games only cover the past 2 years.

I believe someone posted the overall record for the Leafs for his career.

It's definitely misleading. I can imagine the overall record being good without each of the top forwards as well. I'd be just as inclined to move any of them as I would Rielly (read: not very).

 

[Maple Leaf]

It's definitely misleading. I can imagine the overall record being good without each of the top forwards as well. I'd be just as inclined to move any of them as I would Rielly (read: not very).

Mover= rielly fora defenseive specialist

 

[Leaf4Life79]

If they can bring back my favourite Leaf Yushkevich, that would be sweet

Bring back Aki Berg! Oh puck yeah!!!!! 'Sarcasm'

 

[thusk]

Joel Edmundson amount player availble, leafs asset and need... i think he could be the perfect guy for a short run.

no hes not a RHD but his game bring exactly everything thing leafs need with Rielly. Hes physical, he can play on PK and all kind of defensove situation. he hit every case except hes not RH

 

[Fogelhund]

Did you forget Carrier or Dumba > Carrier

The last thing we need is a 5'11" 174 lb D man... so Carrier isn't anywhere near my list. Dumba is on the list... at the bottom.

 

[Boxscore]

Sean Walker from Philly would be a nice add. I watch him a lot and he's been a very reliable, steady, RHD and he's the perfect "fit in" team guy vet.

 

[Fogelhund]

Sean Walker from Philly would be a nice add. I watch him a lot and he's been a very reliable, steady, RHD and he's the perfect "fit in" team guy vet.

and Philly is in a playoff spot, so it seems unlikely they'd be a seller.

 

[hamzarocks]

The last thing we need is a 5'11" 174 lb D man... so Carrier isn't anywhere near my list. Dumba is on the list... at the bottom.

We need a PMD

McCabe + Benoit are our 2 physical d-man

You could use a 3rd one who can move the puck but thats hard to get.

Having a guy who can play top 4 minutes and move the puck is a valueble thing

Avs had Girard, Bolts had shattenkirk for their 1st cup.

Rielly, Lilijgren + 3rd PMD

McCabe, Benoit as physical defensive d-man

Brodie as a defensive D, who isnt physical but can move the puck up a bit

Unless we are paying a higher price for a better player aiming low at Roy or Carrier makes sense

If we want a top pairing low end 1D in hanafin (extended) or Andersson then be ready to move 1st + Cowan package

 

[Fogelhund]

We need a PMD

McCabe + Benoit are our 2 physical d-man

You could use a 3rd one who can move the puck but thats hard to get.

Having a guy who can play top 4 minutes and move the puck is a valueble thing

Avs had Girard, Bolts had shattenkirk for their 1st cup.

Rielly, Lilijgren + 3rd PMD

McCabe, Benoit as physical defensive d-man

Brodie as a defensive D, who isnt physical but can move the puck up a bit

Unless we are paying a higher price for a better player aiming low at Roy or Carrier makes sense

If we want a top pairing low end 1D in hanafin (extended) or Andersson then be ready to move 1st + Cowan package

Completely disagree... we need a partner for Mo, that's the priority. Mo's partner should not be a PMD. Neither Benoit, nor McCabe are suitable for Mo. You add Carrier, and this D core would be far smaller than any cup winner.... you need balance, and you need more size than we have.

Reilly xxx
Brodie Lilly
McCabe Benoit

 

[thusk]

Completely disagree... we need a partner for Mo, that's the priority. Mo's partner should not be a PMD. Neither Benoit, nor McCabe are suitable for Mo.

Reilly xxx
Brodie Lilly
McCabe Benoit

the most important thing is to get the best D vs price leafs can

rielly can easily play with Carrier... or you can use rielly with Benoit by exemple and mccabe with Carrier...Rielly dont need anyone to babysit him. He made look Schenn like a top pairing guy when hes nothing else than a depht D

personally i prefer pay a 3rd for a carrier or walker than waste a 1st pick + on tanev or something like that

 

[All Mod Cons]

We need a PMD

McCabe + Benoit are our 2 physical d-man

You could use a 3rd one who can move the puck but thats hard to get.

Having a guy who can play top 4 minutes and move the puck is a valueble thing

Avs had Girard, Bolts had shattenkirk for their 1st cup.

Rielly, Lilijgren + 3rd PMD

McCabe, Benoit as physical defensive d-man

Brodie as a defensive D, who isnt physical but can move the puck up a bit

Unless we are paying a higher price for a better player aiming low at Roy or Carrier makes sense

If we want a top pairing low end 1D in hanafin (extended) or Andersson then be ready to move 1st + Cowan package

With the personnel currently on our backend, I think we should stay away from a PMD. We need a guy to sit next to Morgan.

 

[Puckstuff]

Needs to be a RD for Rielly. Best to worst options:

Tanev
Larsson
Schenn
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Savard
Parayko
Peeke
Lyubushkin
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Carrier
Brogen
Rutta
Mayfield

 

[Puckstuff]

the most important thing is to get the best D vs price leafs can

rielly can easily play with Carrier... or you can use rielly with Benoit by exemple and mccabe with Carrier...Rielly dont need anyone to babysit him. He made look Schenn like a top pairing guy when hes nothing else than a depht D

personally i prefer pay a 3rd for a carrier or walker than waste a 1st pick + on tanev or something like that

IMO this is the best leafs team in 40 years. They should pay the 1st round pick for Tanev, or Larsson. Or maybe bring back Schenn. Letting Schenn go was a mistake. Rielly-Schenn were great together and they fit perfectly.

 

[PanniniClaus]

IMO this is the best leafs team in 40 years. They should pay the 1st round pick for Tanev, or Larsson. Or maybe bring back Schenn. Letting Schenn go was a mistake. Rielly-Schenn were great together and they fit perfectly.

It's Schenn for me.. Should be cheap and it's a proven pairing... That's if he wants to come back.

 

[Puckstuff]

It's Schenn for me.. Should be cheap and it's a proven pairing... That's if he wants to come back.

Would Nashville trade him? What would we have to give up?

 

[PanniniClaus]

Would Nashville trade him? What would we have to give up?

Well.. the next 10 days may tell the tale. They are in a playoff spot right now which seemed unlikely for most of the year.

 

[Fogelhund]

Schenn... three years at $2.75 mil.... Yikes...

 

[Puckstuff]

Well.. the next 10 days may tell the tale. They are in a playoff spot right now which seemed unlikely for most of the year.

I think our best bet is hoping that Calgary and Seattle can slide down the standings and we can grab one of Tanev or Larsson.

Failing that we could be looking at a rather underwhelming addition I.e Lybushkin. Savard or Peeke might work though.

 

[Mr_Fun]

I know I'm not answering the question, but I'd leave the D as is.
Brodie-Lilegren
Reilly-Lagesson
Benoit-McCabe
Giordano, Timmins the depth in case of injury.

Right now, honestly I would not even dream of changing what's working. And clearly this entire team is working right now.

Secondly, if another D-man is brought in you just know Sheldon is going to use that as an excuse to tinker with the pairings for the rest of the season and probably into the playoffs. He has too, it's like some kind of OCD/fetish of his. So please, I beg of you Mr. Treliving, don't give him any reason to tinker. Oh, and lastly if we're talking a top 4 guy like Tanev it's too late, simply not enough time to adjust to a new team. If anything depth, like 7th or 8th level.

I agree. Unless there's a cant miss type D-man out there, then I think we're better off just going with what we know has been working, rather than start to mess around with chemistry this late in the season. That said, I'm not opposed to picking up another depth type D-man.

 

[Puckstuff]

I agree. Unless there's a cant miss type D-man out there, then I think we're better off just going with what we know has been working, rather than start to mess around with chemistry this late in the season. That said, I'm not opposed to picking up another depth type D-man.

Getting a right handed d-man to play with Rielly won't mess up the chemistry of Brodie-Liljegren or McCabe-Benoit.

 

[Mr_Fun]

Getting a right handed d-man to play with Rielly won't mess up the chemistry of Brodie-Liljegren or McCabe-Benoit.

True, as long as Keefe doesn't galaxy brain, or we're forced by injury or something to change up the combos.

My own personal thought is, I'm not a big fan of picking up older players as this strategy has never really worked out for us. In fact, too many time we've got some old guy who either gets injured, or, uselessly tries to play through an injury.

I see you've mentioned Schenn and one thing I will say about that is Reilly and Schenn have played together at least and have played well. If the price is like last year, I wouldn't be opposed to it.

 

[PanniniClaus]

I think our best bet is hoping that Calgary and Seattle can slide down the standings and we can grab one of Tanev or Larsson.

Failing that we could be looking at a rather underwhelming addition I.e Lybushkin. Savard or Peeke might work though.

I feel both will cost a first and I don't think TREE will go that far. That pick will either be used to draft/develop cheap talent or used for an off season move.

3rd and a younger C + prospect would be preferable.