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I don't think Larsson has underperformed at all. I think this is just what he is.
He's a very average, mid-tier defenseman
He's a very average, mid-tier defenseman
Guys like Jones, Bear, Bouchard, Laggeson, Day (if we sign him) and Samorukov will be chomping at the bit to get some NHL reps. The hope is that if we improve our forward offense that we can hang into more games if our GA goes up due to a Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera or Nurse injury. These ELC defensemen also allow us more cap to add forwards up front. All of these D with the exception on Laggeson bring much needed puck moving ability from the blueline.
I mean this couple of years of struggle (and probably failure) has really fractured the anger around the team, it would almost be funny if wasn't so frustrating and depressing.He's an OBC hack.
I think that’s ridiculous. He’s been a very good player on multiple clubs. This is not close to that player. This is far and away the worst he’s ever played in the NHL.I don't think Larsson has underperformed at all. I think this is just what he is.
He's a very average, mid-tier defenseman
Adam Larson is the best right shot defensemen in our entire system by a wide margin.
Not much else you can say really. Can he be better sure. Does he need help? Absolutely.
I think that’s ridiculous. He’s been a very good player on multiple clubs. This is not close to that player. This is far and away the worst he’s ever played in the NHL.
That says more about the state of our D than Larsson.
Adam Larson is the best right shot defensemen in our entire system by a wide margin.
Not much else you can say really. Can he be better sure. Does he need help? Absolutely.
Larsson on a good day is a #2. On a bad day he's a #5.Yippie he shoots right but it's not really even that important seeing as how he brings little to no offence with that right shot.
He's really not any better than Sekera or Russell.
How did Larsson end up like +23 and klefbom a +7 if he was carried?He was a "top pairing" defenseman on a terrible NJ team. The same arguments people use to discredit our ex-players (Hall/Eberle) apparently does not apply to Larsson's time in NJ.
Larsson's the definition of average, he got carried by Klefbom two years ago when Klef was playing out of his mind. Larsson got a nice goal + lucky bounce against the Ducks so his boxscore looks nice. But it's not a coincidence that Larsson's level of play has dropped while Klefbom struggled.
Larsson isn't playing below his contract, it's much more that Klef is playing waaaaaaay above his. Their cap hits are 77th and 79th among defensemen in the entire league, which would make them mid tier #3s based on contract. Klef is playing as a top end #2 bordering on a #1, but saying Larsson is an average #3 is bang on for this year.The problem is Larsson is playing BELOW his contract this season.
Klefbom is about evenly paid and Larsson << Klefbom.
Larsson on a good day is a #2. On a bad day he's a #5.
Sekera is a #4 most of the time. On a good day a #3 and on a bad day is a #6.
Russell is a #5 that's being asking to play like a #4. At best he's a #4 and on a bad day he's a #6.
Not comparable
Larsson isn't playing below his contract, it's much more that Klef is playing waaaaaaay above his. Their cap hits are 77th and 79th among defensemen in the entire league, which would make them mid tier #3s based on contract. Klef is playing as a top end #2 bordering on a #1, but saying Larsson is an average #3 is bang on for this year.
Larsson on a good day is a #2. On a bad day he's a #5.
Sekera is a #4 most of the time. On a good day a #3 and on a bad day is a #6.
Russell is a #5 that's being asking to play like a #4. At best he's a #4 and on a bad day he's a #6.
Not comparable
Playoffs Larsson playing 45mins was an okay #2D don't you think. We've seen how good he can be. Maybe this isn't his season.I feel our D corps have been so bad that some of you don't even know what a good #2D looks like.
Playoffs Larsson playing 45mins was an okay #2D don't you think. We've seen how good he can be. Maybe this isn't his season.
I think that’s ridiculous. He’s been a very good player on multiple clubs. This is not close to that player. This is far and away the worst he’s ever played in the NHL.
I'd love to see a list of ~75 defensemen better than Klefbom and 100-110 better than Larsson to justify that.Absolutely not for this season. In 2016-2017 sure, but this year Klef's like an average #3 and Larsson's like a #4.
On a contending team, Larsson's like the prototypical 4D. Give him ~17 EV minutes per game against the opponents secondary threats, and with heavy PK minutes as well. He can't play PP. Right now he is being tasked with 22 minutes per game and he is struggling with it.
I'd love to see a list of ~75 defensemen better than Klefbom and 100-110 better than Larsson to justify that.
So any D who has more points than Klef and Larsson are automatically better than them, okay
sorted a table by points= better defenseman
Lmao list all the D better than klefbom, he’s playing like a high end #2 this yearAbsolutely not for this season. In 2016-2017 sure, but this year Klef's like an average #3 and Larsson's like a #4.
On a contending team, Larsson's like the prototypical 4D. Give him ~17 EV minutes per game against the opponents secondary threats, and with heavy PK minutes as well. He can't play PP. Right now he is being tasked with 22 minutes per game and he is struggling with it.
Yikes, that’s embarrassing, not too surprised as you cry about Kassian being on the top line every game when all he’s been doing is scoring goals.