Player Discussion Adam Fox

[TGWL]

Thanks for the information. I usually believe like the Mark Twain line about statistics. I assume you probably heard of it. With that said while I look at stats with a grain of salt when it comes to these stats I would be interested in how often a guy fails to even reach 16-18 mph. Would that be a reasonable question?

I'm not sure how you measure that when it comes to a fail. You have to think that after making a pass to clear the zone, he's not flying up the rink, or when on the PK/PP, they're more positional and less hustling down the rink or up the wing, so all those stops/starts and cruising can't be classified as fails. I'm not sure what would count as a fail other than a race to a lose puck against a forechecker.

 

[NickyFotiu]

I'm not sure how you measure that when it comes to a fail. You have to think that after making a pass to clear the zone, he's not flying up the rink, or when on the PK/PP, they're more positional and less hustling down the rink or up the wing, so all those stops/starts and cruising can't be classified as fails. I'm not sure what would count as a fail other than a race to a lose puck against a forechecker.

I do not follow those stats so I'm definitely not an expert but I would be curious are there very many 1st pairing dman that have less high MPH bursts than Fox in a somewhat equal amount of games/minutes? How does he compare to Bouchard? Hedman? McAvoy?

 

[TheDirtyH]

I do not follow those stats so I'm definitely not an expert but I would be curious are there very many 1st pairing dman that have less high MPH bursts than Fox in a somewhat equal amount of games/minutes? How does he compare to Bouchard? Hedman? McAvoy?

You can look at all of this here: NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Home

There a player comparison tool and everything.

 

[NickyFotiu]

You can look at all of this here: NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Home

There a player comparison tool and everything.

Thank you.

Wow I do not know if the data on that site is accurate but it is interesting to look at the skating and shooting speeds.

 

[wolfgaze]

the people who don't recognize Fox's defense as a strength

Is today unofficially Opposite Day?

 

[bleedblue94]

Cue all the blame someone other than fox nonsense. Fox absolutely went to the wrong player. Just brutal.

 

[Rangerboy030]

This forum is utterly insufferable sometimes with its incessant need to shit on our absolute best players for not being absolutely perfect 100 percent of the time. Saw it with prime Hank, saw it with prime Kreider, now seeing it with Fox.

Adam Fox is an elite player in all three zones and has been basically since day 1, and the idea of trading him is utter insanity. There is no debate on these points, they are facts.

 

[effen]

edit: Here's hoping he got whatever it was out of his system and comes back refocused for the playoff push

 

[RangersFan1994]

Imagine if Fox actually cared about his game to actually improve his skating. It's a shame he never cared otherwise he'd work at to improve it. Maybe he'd be a much better player. He has no one to blame but himself. I'd trade him for B.Tkachuk right now.

This forum is utterly insufferable sometimes with its incessant need to shit on our absolute best players for not being absolutely perfect 100 percent of the time. Saw it with prime Hank, saw it with prime Kreider, now seeing it with Fox.

Adam Fox is an elite player in all three zones and has been basically since day 1, and the idea of trading him is utter insanity. There is no debate on these points, they are facts.

Maybe if he cared to improve his skating, fans would feel different. He never cared to do so. why should the fans care about him since he never cared to improve his game. He's been worse since his Norris season

 

[Rangerboy030]

Maybe if he cared to improve his skating, fans would feel different. He never cared to do so. why should the fans care about him since he never cared to improve his game. He's been worse since his Norris season

No, the team has been worse since his Norris season. That's why everyone is uppity, and why they're looking for scapegoats. And in usual fashion, rather than identifying the actual problems, like how we only have 1 defenceman (guess who?) that can consistently make a breakout pass worth a shit, some people lock in on big names and superficial critiques.

Fox was slow when he won the Norris too. He's no speedster and he never will be. He is nevertheless elite. Deal with it.

 

[effen]

No, the team has been worse since his Norris season. That's why everyone is uppity, and why they're looking for scapegoats. And in usual fashion, rather than identifying the actual problems, like how we only have 1 defenceman (guess who?) that can consistently make a breakout pass worth a shit, some people lock in on big names and superficial critiques.

Fox was slow when he won the Norris too. He's no speedster and he never will be. He is nevertheless elite. Deal with it.

The team missed the playoffs his Norris season, following it up with 2 ECFs in 3 years. That's not them getting worse.

Not sure what the deal with it comment is about but the whole forum seems really aggressive and kinda mean of late without hockey. Not cool.

 

[wolfgaze]

There is no debate on these points, they are facts.

Declaring your opinions to be 'facts' and undebatable while accusing others of being 'insufferable' is an excellent example of 'the pot calling the kettle black'.

You believe Fox is an 'elite' player in the defensive zone and has been so since his rookie season - yet no one can debate this take? Okay bud.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

I think the piling on Fox this year is way way over the top, but leaving the slot wide open is signature Rangers hockey right now.

 

[Mike in Houston]

This forum is utterly insufferable sometimes with its incessant need to shit on our absolute best players for not being absolutely perfect 100 percent of the time. Saw it with prime Hank, saw it with prime Kreider, now seeing it with Fox.

Adam Fox is an elite player in all three zones and has been basically since day 1, and the idea of trading him is utter insanity. There is no debate on these points, they are facts.

Like I always say, "Nobody hates the Rangers more than Ranger fans".

 

[leetch99]

He will be a solid for 7 more seasons with the new blades he has on order . No more pushing him around or skating by him ....taller-faster ....slap some stovepipe around the ankles to protect against broken ankles.....we'll be in business !!!
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