Confirmed with Link: Adam Foote Named Head Coach of the Vancouver Canucks

[MS]

The organization is a complete circus from top to bottom.

This is obviously not the case despite how badly a few people on the internet want it to be true.

This is still a desirable market and a good team and this is also essentially Malhotra's home town.

Maybe he got an offer from a more stable team.

Highly doubtful considering he's still coaching in the AHL and the Canucks would not be granting him opportunities to interview until the AHL season is complete. And while teams might engage in blatant tampering involving the defending Jack Adams winner, they probably aren't for Manny Malhotra.

 

[HairyKneel]

The organization is a complete circus from top to bottom.

Maybe he got an offer from a more stable team.

Doubtful. This team had a rough year on and off the ice but the season before they were thought of as a very good team and a desirable place to play. I'm hopeful they can rebound next season.

 

[Josepho]

In a short-term results-based league, this is still probably a better job than Boston/Seattle/Pittsburgh/Chicago.

Also, Malhotra has done a good job but I think this market is probably overrating him as a candidate and the only team I think that would offer him a job is maybe Pittsburgh.

 

[rypper]

The team has better then average defense and goaltending. That'll go a long way next year. I think they'll surprise.

 

[Ernie]

The organization is a complete circus from top to bottom.

Maybe he got an offer from a more stable team.

Malhotra was signed because the organization didn't want to give Colliton an NHL out clause, so I doubt Malhotra has one.

The glass half full view of the Foote signing is that he's expendable if he doesn't work out and they can bring in Malhotra after a bit more seasoning as an AHL head coach. If a Jim Montgomery type firing comes along I could see them jumping on that as well. It's clear there aren't a lot of good options on the coaching market so you might as well hire the guy that your franchise player likes.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Why so negative when you can bike the seawall

Wake up

it’s raining all long weekend

hughes is going to leave and win the messier award as a new jersey devil then come back to vancouver for his day with the cup so he can piss on pat quinn’s statue after mailmanning american corporate beer out of the cup

 

[I am toxic]

it’s raining all long weekend

hughes is going to leave and win the messier award as a new jersey devil then come back to vancouver for his day with the cup so he can piss on pat quinn’s statue after mailmanning american corporate beer out of the cup

 

[me2]

The team has better then average defense and goaltending. That'll go a long way next year. I think they'll surprise.

Surprise is make the playoffs. Fodder if they get there. Management have a lot of work to do to get past fodder.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

This is obviously not the case despite how badly a few people on the internet want it to be true.

This is still a desirable market and a good team and this is also essentially Malhotra's home town.

You are one of the last people on the planet who thinks this.

Highly doubtful considering he's still coaching in the AHL and the Canucks would not be granting him opportunities to interview until the AHL season is complete. And while teams might engage in blatant tampering involving the defending Jack Adams winner, they probably aren't for Manny Malhotra.

Fair enough.

 

[Diablo2020]

This is obviously not the case despite how badly a few people on the internet want it to be true.

This is still a desirable market and a good team.

How can you be soooo correct on every Ep40 take you had a week ago during your posting spree, but then honestly think and believe this?

We're a clown show top to bottom. We're a more desirable living situation than Columbus types but thats it.

 

[BluesyShoes]

Put me down as someone that is pretty pleased with the shift to building from the back end. I think we see a far more consistent team, better system play with higher neutral zone pressure, and more incremental improvement over the course of the season (and year over year if we maintain our two-way blueline as a strength.) If it pans out like I think it can, coaching and management should be able to make clearer evaluations and be more successful in addressing them.

Hopefully that means less ups and downs for the fanbase, too, as fun as that rollercoaster may be lol.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Put me down as someone that is pretty pleased with the shift to building from the back end. I think we see a far more consistent team, better system play with higher neutral zone pressure, and more incremental improvement over the course of the season (and year over year if we maintain our two-way blueline as a strength.) If it pans out like I think it can, coaching and management should be able to make clearer evaluations and be more successful in addressing them.

Hopefully that means less ups and downs for the fanbase, too, as fun as that rollercoaster may be lol.

Concur.

But a great many of the freakout Freddies on this board don't exactly understand the nuances of the game.

People say that goaltending is the most important position. I think it's D by far.

D dictate how long you spend in your zone, and how quickly you move to the other zone.

As a player, there's nothing more frustrating than playing against a team with a far superior puck moving D core than yours.

I don't think it's a coincidence that our history is so bleak and that, prior to Hughes, it could be argued that we literally never had a truly elite number 1 D in our history.

Now we have Hughes and Hronek, MPetey and Myers, and then EPetey and Willander developing, as well as several prospects. Every single player on that list can (or projects to be able to) handle the puck well, while defending well. It's a serious luxury.

It's far, far, far harder to fill out a D core than it is to find a 2nd line center and a couple of top 6 wingers.

It's all contingent on how the braintrust handles the next moves they make for forwards. But there's a path back to being a good team immediately and a really good team within 2 or 3 years.

 

[andora]

I was intentionally avoiding this thread and stupid curiousity got me this morning..

For those waving the flag for whoever it was asking about the trial and his son get a grip. Such a waste of time and on the first press conference.. awesome. Gotta create that edge right.. these loser reporters with nothing original. Whoever asked it what else did he ask - anythimg actually meaningful?

Ask yourself this about needing to go at foote about that - what is the point. Knowing how it would be answered - what is the point

Foote and Myers off-season pool party.

The marketing weites itself.. fuzzy key chains - a lucky giraffe foot

I mean seriously embrace the chaos

 

[DiggerDan]

Concur.

But a great many of the freakout Freddies on this board don't exactly understand the nuances of the game.

People say that goaltending is the most important position. I think it's D by far.

D dictate how long you spend in your zone, and how quickly you move to the other zone.

As a player, there's nothing more frustrating than playing against a team with a far superior puck moving D core than yours.

I don't think it's a coincidence that our history is so bleak and that, prior to Hughes, it could be argued that we literally never had a truly elite number 1 D in our history.

Now we have Hughes and Hronek, MPetey and Myers, and then EPetey and Willander developing, as well as several prospects. Every single player on that list can (or projects to be able to) handle the puck well, while defending well. It's a serious luxury.

It's far, far, far harder to fill out a D core than it is to find a 2nd line center and a couple of top 6 wingers.

It's all contingent on how the braintrust handles the next moves they make for forwards. But there's a path back to being a good team immediately and a really good team within 2 or 3 years.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and this is of course a message board but there are some seriously bizarre opinions from a small contingent of likely young and/or inexperienced posters here as of late. Anyone who has played at a high level or coached knows how true this is - unless you have generational players, you build from the back. We have the most talented D we've had in our franchise history, with the best player in our franchise history. Top 5 goalie tandem in the league.

I'm not saying PA and JR don't have some rabbits they need to pull from their hats this off-season, but we are in a decent spot for a serious turnaround. Those that think this management group are idiots need to look in the mirror.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Concur.

But a great many of the freakout Freddies on this board don't exactly understand the nuances of the game.

Hmm....

Could this be the Dunning–Kruger effect?

People say that goaltending is the most important position. I think it's D by far.

D dictate how long you spend in your zone, and how quickly you move to the other zone.

As a player, there's nothing more frustrating than playing against a team with a far superior puck moving D core than yours.

I don't think it's a coincidence that our history is so bleak and that, prior to Hughes, it could be argued that we literally never had a truly elite number 1 D in our history.

Now we have Hughes and Hronek, MPetey and Myers, and then EPetey and Willander developing, as well as several prospects. Every single player on that list can (or projects to be able to) handle the puck well, while defending well. It's a serious luxury.

It's far, far, far harder to fill out a D core than it is to find a 2nd line center and a couple of top 6 wingers.

It's all contingent on how the braintrust handles the next moves they make for forwards. But there's a path back to being a good team immediately and a really good team within 2 or 3 years.

You can move around the pieces you have to your hearts content but if you keep making the team less talented in the process it doesn't matter one bit.

Obviously its a completely different thing if you are one of the posters here who has lowered their expectations from contending for the cup to just being a playoff team. I've stopped engaging with those posters because its impossible to find common ground when you disagree on such a fundamental aspect of team building.

 

[krutovsdonut]

This is obviously not the case despite how badly a few people on the internet want it to be true.

This is still a desirable market and a good team and this is also essentially Malhotra's home town.

if you mean it is a good team in the sense of a good organization a coach would wish to join then it is an extraordinarily unlucky one. in less than a year a 100 point star player in his prime has gone off a cliff just as we signed him to a long term 8 figure contract and we have intentionally publicly dragged his name twice through high profile trade discussions and publicly shamed him about his training like he was a rookie. our other 100 point player has also requested and received a trade. meanwhile, in the same time frames, and within a year of winning the jack adams, our well regarded coach has left to coach elsewhere when we were trying to extend him, and our starting vezina calibre goaltender has developed chronic health problems followed by the demotion of our well known and respected goaltender coach. we have also failed to sign multiple high profile trade acquisitions after trying to do so and are also losing successful free agent signings as they come up for extension. now a member of the family that owns the team has triggered a buyout of his substantial interest in the team in unfavourable economic conditions likely to impact on the teams finances. the only penny left to drop between us and complete catastrophe is a quinn hughes trade request and rumours out of new york from a prominent commentator indicated that was actually being discussed.

i mean maybe this is that scene in every star wars movie where it looks like the empire is going to win, but you have to entertain the idea this organization is dysfunctional to its core and the way tochett and miller left should make you wonder if it is also strongly disliked within the league to the point others wish it ill.

 

[krutovsdonut]

if you take a look at how this team has been dismantled since it got good last season you could even get a little paranoid that the league is orchestrating it.

-tochett to the flyers
-miller to the rangers
-zadorov and lindholm to the bruins

if hughes does go to the devils it would be as if the key northeast us tv markets in the league had divided up and scooped the team's best assets. throw in horvat to the islanders for extra conspiracy theory points.

i think going forward we should at least entertain the idea the aqualinis are truly hated by the league and are being intentionally targeted in a semi-organized fashion and/or forced to sell.

let's see what else can go wrong.

 

[andora]

if you take a look at how this team has been dismantled since it got good last season you could even get a little paranoid that the league is orchestrating it.

-tochett to the flyers
-miller to the rangers
-zadorov and lindholm to the bruins

if hughes does go to the devils it would be as if the key northeast us tv markets in the league had divided up and scooped the team's best assets. throw in horvat to the islanders for extra conspiracy theory points.

i think going forward we should at least entertain the idea the aqualinis are truly hated by the league and are being intentionally targeted in a semi-organized fashion and/or forced to sell.

let's see what else can go wrong.

Dont forget gatcomb

 

[krutovsdonut]

Dont forget gatcomb

lol

if you want support for my conspiracy theory take a look at the history of the draft lottery and which teams have moved up and how much. with the exception of the mcdavid draft, every single instance would suggest the league is run by and for the major us markets, and especially the us east cost tristate area and the blackhawks.

 

[I am toxic]

In a short-term results-based league, this is still probably a better job than Boston/Seattle/Pittsburgh/Chicago.

Also, Malhotra has done a good job but I think this market is probably overrating him as a candidate and the only team I think that would offer him a job is maybe Pittsburgh.

Disagree. In nuance

All the other markets are underrating Manny

Start here

Do your own research, then . . .

You will soon get to here

Yeah, am a bit biased, sue me

 

[Andy Dufresne]

if you want support for my conspiracy theory take a look at the history of the draft lottery

Uhhh, the league loves Edmonton?? What?
Nobody loves Edmonton that I know (including people that live there)
Seriously the whole 'draft lotteries are rigged conversation' misses a lot of important facts. As has been pointed out about this year's nba lottery.
The entire league would have to be in on it, or else it's a federal crime (In the USA)
Not sure who audits the NHL lottery, but Ernst and Young does the NBA draft, there's no way in hell an organization like that is getting involved with a rigged lottery.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Uhhh, the league loves Edmonton?? What?

what are you on about?

 

[JVH]

if you mean it is a good team in the sense of a good organization a coach would wish to join then it is an extraordinarily unlucky one. in less than a year a 100 point star player in his prime has gone off a cliff just as we signed him to a long term 8 figure contract and we have intentionally publicly dragged his name twice through high profile trade discussions and publicly shamed him about his training like he was a rookie. our other 100 point player has also requested and received a trade. meanwhile, in the same time frames, and within a year of winning the jack adams, our well regarded coach has left to coach elsewhere when we were trying to extend him, and our starting vezina calibre goaltender has developed chronic health problems followed by the demotion of our well known and respected goaltender coach. we have also failed to sign multiple high profile trade acquisitions after trying to do so and are also losing successful free agent signings as they come up for extension. now a member of the family that owns the team has triggered a buyout of his substantial interest in the team in unfavourable economic conditions likely to impact on the teams finances. the only penny left to drop between us and complete catastrophe is a quinn hughes trade request and rumours out of new york from a prominent commentator indicated that was actually being discussed.

i mean maybe this is that scene in every star wars movie where it looks like the empire is going to win, but you have to entertain the idea this organization is dysfunctional to its core and the way tochett and miller left should make you wonder if it is also strongly disliked within the league to the point others wish it ill.

How f***ing depressing.

 

[krutovsdonut]

a draft lottery conspiracy theory history examination is actually worse than i thought

all the teams that have moved up four or more places to be 1oa in the draft

nyrangers 2020 from 14th
islanders 2025 from 10th
devils 2017 from 5th
blackhawks 2007 from 5th
islanders 2000 from 5th

all the teams that under the old system before 2012 moved up the max four places without getting to 1oa

kings 1995 (7th to 3rd)
blackhawks 1999 (8th to 4th)
devils 2011 (8th to 4th)

i guess someone could calculate the odds of the new york area and blackhawks being that lucky. the kings are, of course, also a major us market team and that was the first year of the lottery.

people may say, "but mcdavid" i guess, but as i recall there was publicity about extra security on that lottery because mcdavid.

 

[VanJack]

I just hope the Canucks come back and under Foote, go back to having some fun out there on the ice.

Seemed to me at times last year, nobody seemed to be enjoying themselves. Maybe it was partly due to the locker-room drama. But part of it might be Tocchet's suffocating defensive system that times seemed to take a lot of the free-flowing joy out of the game.

At the end of the day, although these guys are pros, hockey is still a kid's sport played by men. And you're supposed to be having fun at the same time as you're earning big money.