Confirmed with Link: Adam Foote Named Head Coach of the Vancouver Canucks

[Knight53]

Tank Goodness.

McKenna
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Rooboreck

 

[Coffee]

Great post.


Will read again.

Drop the nice guy act. We know you aren’t reading that again

 

[I am toxic]

Teams blocking AHL coaches from getting NHL coaching jobs elsewhere is really not a thing.

Caleb is still with Chiefs, and another year before BU?

Tough to see Manny uprooting to another NHL team this year when he is eventually guaranteed the gig with the Canucks as long as Aquilini owns it

I could see it going either way

 

[BluesyShoes]

The best part of our team this year was our defense core, especially after the Marcus Pettersson trade. If Foote was able to finally calm down Tyler Myers game and turn him into a steady defender, I think we can give him a shot.

Curious who we are going to bring in to run the offense. That for me was the weak point of our team, which really was on Tocchet. For what Foote was in control of, it was our strengths: defense and PK. In his interview with Faber, he made it pretty clear he's going to continue running the defense and will bring someone in to run the offense, and that he has names in mind.

Looking at our depth chart and prospect pool too, I am glad that we have kept Foote around as I do think he was the best part of our coaching staff for the past couple years. I was more eager to see what Malhotra could do with the team, but Foote deserves his shot for the work he'll be able to do with our young D. Just need someone with the fresh ideas on offense that coaches more puck protection and possession into our forwards. We need to create more offense down low from the corners. Tocchet is a great head coach but I don't think he is that strong of an offensive coordinator.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Gross. That's what I get for making an optimistic post a week ago, lmao.

He has a resume for AHL head coach, not anywhere near NHL head coach. And I'm pretty sure Foote is the one who wanted to run the "talentless trees" strategy that basically ruined the season this year.

I don't think Tocchet was bad but I don't mind him moving on, outside of half a year of an insane PDO bender and two playoff rounds of last minute heroics saving the day, the team wasn't great. But replacing him with Foote feels really bad.

As for GM Quinn Hughes, I remember in the 21-22 season when everyone posted 1000x on repeat how we couldn't build this team properly or exercise patience because oh no EP wouldn't sign if we sold anyone that mattered or didn't compete immediately!!!

So we didn't operate with any patience or foresight, we sucked anyways, we sold or tried to sell every core player anyways, and in the end EP signed anyways.

And not only did 99% of the people spamming "can't use patience or EP will leave!!!" immediately turn on EP and want to trade him for a bag of pucks when he slumped.... but we'd be a million times better off now if we had used a tiny modicum of patience and built properly.

Like I said back then, you don't let players demands determine the teams strategy. For pro athletes, winning in a shit environment is better for player satisfaction and morale than losing in a "good" environment with people you like. You build to win not placate players feelings.

I don't actually think this was about Hughes, I think that is an excuse and am not a fan of how much attention that narrative is getting. I think we just picked the laziest, cheapest option for an unattractive job and are selling it with the Hughes angle. But if it was about Hughes, that's a terrible idea.

Maybe the guy with no resume and who is likely to continue with the system that wasn't working will pull miracles out of his ass, that would be great. Not going to hold my breath on it.

I cannot endorse the above post enough.

That fearmongering emboldened certain individuals to try and dunk on posters who called it right. The quick re-tool flopped. It had a low upside anyway, but management seems intent on preserving that upside with this continuity hire. If that fails, they're done.

But some of the same posters that backed management don't like the Foote hire? Isn't Hughes in danger of leaving just like EP40 once had been? Doesn't Foote provide the best shot at replicating Tocchet's system? The most stability? The same impatient, short-term thinking is at play here.

Now sure, a clean slate would have been better for EP40... That's actually the argument for people that could take or leave Tocchet, not for those that wanted him back. The clean slate was devalued to endorse bringing Tocchet back. It should be the same with Foote... but it isn't.

Unsigned EP40 wanted the quick re-tool (allegedly), so do the quick re-tool. Ok. Hughes wants the re-tool preserved, so preserve it. Ok. Foote is uniquely positioned to do exactly that, but people hate him as a hire... A similar premise, different reaction.

The plan hasn't changed. The perception of its viability has.

 

[VanJack]

I suppose sticking with Foote is something of an expression of confidence by management in the team they've built. Otherwise they'd have brought in an outsider with a mandate to shake things up.

Glad to see Foote get his shot as an NHL head-coach. But if things go south, then they've still got Malhotra waiting in the wings.

 

[Cancuks]

This is definitely the team signaling a rebuild is on the way. Foote just isn't head coach material. I just hope we don't trade any 1st round picks this offseason.

 

[me2]

This is definitely the team signaling a rebuild is on the way. Foote just isn't head coach material. I just hope we don't trade any 1st round picks this offseason.

I don't see it. They are just carrying. If they start selling instead of buying this off season I'll believe it. Unless your mean unintentionally.

 

[hookshott]

He's as good as gone brother.
Other teams are looking to signing him soon already (albeit those are rumours)

His wife is from Vancouver and, of course, wants to be here. Happy wife, happy life.. Plus they gave him his first head coaching job and he played for them.

 

[LordBacon]

His wife is from Vancouver and, of course, wants to be here. Happy wife, happy life.. Plus they gave him his first head coaching job and he played for them.

This is my pov

I was like they gave him his first what!?

Anyways I hope so, Manny is looking likely to be a promising head coach.

 

[hookshott]

NHL Head coaching experience: Manny -0, Foote-0
NHL Assistant coaching experience: Manny - 7 years Foote- 2.5 years
Head coaching experience : Manny 1 year (very successful), Foote- 1.5 yrs WHL (fired)

Yep, seems like a logical decision.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

I'm really surprised by the negative replies here...

Just kidding, these boards are like a misery support group who can find the dark clouds on any sunny day.

My first impression is that I would have preferred Manny Malhotra, but as @Vector noted, none of us know what's going in in the dressing room so it's all 'vibes' based takes from people who are doomers.

I think the Canucks have had simp energy towards Hughes, or at least it's been represented that way by fans and the media.

He's obviously got a brilliant hockey mind (Hughes does), so if they're leaning on that expertise that's one thing.

But if it's 'notice me senpai' energy then it just comes across as cloying and pathetic.

But again, Hughes is a brilliant hockey mind and a thoughtful person and he has said that Foote is the greatest coach he has ever had.

I don't hate this move at all. Instinctively I thought like others that he may not be the best hire to get Petey feeling more renewed, but how do we know?

We know that Tocchet was a MAGA and thought Miller was the cat's ass, but we don't know anything of the sort about Foote.

Quinn Hughes doesn't strike me as someone who's easily fooled by hockey sophistry, and we know Foote's incredible hockey resume as a player, and the incredible hockey minds he's played with.

How about we give this a chance before we have our conniptions...there I go again, it's like I forget that I'm encroaching on the doomer support group forum.

 

[Dirtyclapper]

Not sure why everyone is hating this, I personally like this a lot better than ricky T. Elite defense first coach, this gives me hope.

 

[arttk]

It’s a discussion board. Who is there to play offence for the team? If we win it’s 2-1 all day long and the Sedins are perfectly fine navigating that PP or offence if available. I don’t see a scenario no matter who coaches that we aren’t a bottom 5 scoring team in the league due to personnel.

wtf are you talking about? Yes defense is our strength but that doesn’t mean we should just not have anyone to coach offense.
It’s also May right now, nobody has any clue what the roster will look like.

 

[TruGr1t]

Most importantly, will we finally get our PP coach?

 

[Dolemite]

I’m curious as to why he was picked over Manny.

 

[JT Milker]

I'm really surprised by the negative replies here...

Just kidding, these boards are like a misery support group who can find the dark clouds on any sunny day.

My first impression is that I would have preferred Manny Malhotra, but as @Vector noted, none of us know what's going in in the dressing room so it's all 'vibes' based takes from people who are doomers.

I think the Canucks have had simp energy towards Hughes, or at least it's been represented that way by fans and the media.

He's obviously got a brilliant hockey mind (Hughes does), so if they're leaning on that expertise that's one thing.

But if it's 'notice me senpai' energy then it just comes across as cloying and pathetic.

But again, Hughes is a brilliant hockey mind and a thoughtful person and he has said that Foote is the greatest coach he has ever had.

I don't hate this move at all. Instinctively I thought like others that he may not be the best hire to get Petey feeling more renewed, but how do we know?

We know that Tocchet was a MAGA and thought Miller was the cat's ass, but we don't know anything of the sort about Foote.

Quinn Hughes doesn't strike me as someone who's easily fooled by hockey sophistry, and we know Foote's incredible hockey resume as a player, and the incredible hockey minds he's played with.

How about we give this a chance before we have our conniptions...there I go again, it's like I forget that I'm encroaching on the doomer support group forum.

It’s mainly people cosplaying hockey savants and stroking each other’s ego on an online messaging board.

There are some people with a track record of being right that have expressed concern that the inmates are running the asylum though, and that’s reasonable.

 

[Bgav]

Most losses in the nhl since 1970, no cups, constant awful decisions, and some fans be like "WhY sO NeGaTive"

 

[lawrence]

We will probably be 30th on the PP and top 5 PK in the league next year and goaltending will play a huge part. I’m complex towards people advocating towards offence when we don’t have the players to play that way.

we will have to see, what he does. He was a student of Patt Quinn, Hitchcock, Quenville in the past. Lets see how he does.

whose avaliable?

according to rumors the had at least 7 names including Marco sturm that’s all we know for now.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Most losses in the nhl since 1970, no cups, constant awful decisions, and some fans be like "WhY sO NeGaTive"

But the vibes!

Team apparently had good vibes with Green in the 2020 bubble.

Bruce Boudreau brought good vibes too!

It's important to keep the good vibes from Tocchet. The same vibes that yeeted him to Philly!

Vibes!!!!

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Because this city is full of a bunch of miserable people who are mortgaged up to the eyeballs, overweight, stuck in traffic in a city of 4 million with two lanes from Horseshoe Bay to Hope, listejing to meat puppets like Sekeres and JPat, eating entirely too many Big Macs, the hockey team sucks and we have a beer league soccer team playing with a beer league football team in an eyesore of a dump of a dome and a transit system that was outdated in 1986.

gonna dig out the ipod and fire up some meat puppets on my earbuds while taking my extremely convenient 25 minute bus ride to work and think about the pre-olympics days when you’d have to wait for any north-south bus for up to 45 minutes with no assurance that it would ever come and when it did it would mock you with three of the same bus all coming at once

#feelingblessed

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

gonna dig out the ipod and fire up some meat puppets on my earbuds while taking my extremely convenient 25 minute bus ride to work and think about the pre-olympics days when you’d have to wait for any north-south bus for up to 45 minutes with no assurance that it would ever come and when it did it would mock you with three of the same bus all coming at once

#feelingblessed

Great song/band/record. For basically the entirety of 2011 I was absolutely f***ing flying on speed/acid/shrooms/booze/pot and had the first five MP albums on loop the whole time lmfao. Great times.

 

[Jerry the great]

I voted for Malhotra in that poll but I can sort of see why they ended up going with Foote here, particularly considering the time sensitivity. If he leaves to join Tocchet in Philly and Manny leaves for Pittsburgh, Boston or Chicago, we have a big problem.

A lot of people have decide to ignore his time with the Canucks and dredge up his short stint in the WHL where the Rockets weren't very good and were due to host the 2020 Memorial Cup. That's a pretty tough first coaching gig IMO. His son was also on that team, which probably didn't make it less weird. people generally learn a lot from their failures...so fingers crossed?!

His body of work with the defense over the last 2.5 seasons is undeniably positive.
Hughes gives him a lot of credit for elevating his game
He's extracted more from Tyler Myers than anyone thought was possible
New faces have been mostly well integrated (VD being the exception).
Young organizational talent is extremely back end heavy (so lets develop them!)

We have a limited amount of runway to get this bird back in the air on a course that convinces Hughes to extend. People recognized this and lots of the same folks who hate this move were all aboard the "lets trade for Josh Norris" train...for the same reason, despite the material cap and blow up risk.

I do think it's possible that we could end up with a best of both worlds here if Foote handles defensive schemes/concepts and they bring in someone new to run the PP and different/new offensive concepts. it'll be interesting to see who they go with and whether Foote gets to pick any/all of his own staff.

 

[Attack Vector]

Manny not being selected could be as simple as he's not ready to make the jump, he's only 44 years old and probably wants a couple seasons under him as a head coach.

 

[4th line culture]

Manny not being selected could be as simple as he's not ready to make the jump, he's only 44 years old and probably wants a couple seasons under him as a head coach.

But the guy with less experience is more ready?