He played behind Odelius every step of the way in his season. I have no notes on him at all, so we can assume he was maybe a late bloomer.Lack of viewing shouldn't happen in this day and age. Not picking a guy 'cause you don't see him much? In a league that had Ostlund, Lekkerimaki, Bystedt, Forsmark and then some?
Seems to be producing better than Norlinder at same level.
He played behind Odelius every step of the way in his season. I have no notes on him at all, so we can assume he was maybe a late bloomer.
By the way, I'm not bashing anybody here. As fans, there's just no way we can know everybody. I had no idea who that guy was and I like following prospects. I'm talking about pros. Employed by teams. And hearing how a lack of viewing might be the case for him falling is just a proof that while scouting is indeed, sometimes, a roll of the dice, it also means that some teams are still not serious about it for various reasons.
The guy wasn't playing in Africa. Plenty of guys are picked from J20 Nationell. He was playing on a team that had Odelius, Ohgren, Lekkerimaki and Ostlund. Not the same league. The same team. And statswise, finished with 2 points less in the reg. season and had 5 more points in the playoffs. And out of every D in this team, he played the most games. +28 for Engstrom, +3 for Odelius. Something just doesn't add up. Maybe Odelius was playing more...but Engstrom surely wasn't on a bottom 2 either.
Me too. But I just checked his age, he's only 1.5 months older than Mesar and 4.5 months older than Slafkovsky.I thought this guy was one of the 20 yr olds we drafted this year
Happy to hear the news so far
We also aren't aware whether he may or not have attended the Habs Euro combine this yearOdelius played on Sweden teams in tournaments where Engstrom didn't. So more scouts/management likely saw Odelius than Engstrom which allowed him to be ranked higher on their boards. Plus you might be more likely to rank someone higher you saw play in this situations against better competition vs. Engstrom who didn't have the same exposure/opportunity to play against other nations best players.
I mean he did go in the 3rd round with other very talented players, so its not like he was unkown by the habs staff at least. Id say its more so the scouting services that have failed and may show their lack of actual competence.By the way, I'm not bashing anybody here. As fans, there's just no way we can know everybody. I had no idea who that guy was and I like following prospects. I'm talking about pros. Employed by teams. And hearing how a lack of viewing might be the case for him falling is just a proof that while scouting is indeed, sometimes, a roll of the dice, it also means that some teams are still not serious about it for various reasons.
The guy wasn't playing in Africa. Plenty of guys are picked from J20 Nationell. He was playing on a team that had Odelius, Ohgren, Lekkerimaki and Ostlund. Not the same league. The same team. And statswise, finished with 2 points less in the reg. season and had 5 more points in the playoffs. And out of every D in this team, he played the most games. +28 for Engstrom, +3 for Odelius. Something just doesn't add up. Maybe Odelius was playing more...but Engstrom surely wasn't on a bottom 2 either.
Yeah, you may be right. There are other guys more touted that were picked later like McConnell-Barker, or even D like George and Forsmark or Lindgren.... And like @WeThreeKings said the lack of international exposure is also a good reason.I mean he did go in the 3rd round with other very talented players, so its not like he was unkown by the habs staff at least. Id say its more so the scouting services that have failed and may show their lack of actual competence.
Seems to be producing better than Norlinder at same level.
That draft was deep through 3 rounds, so Im not surprised they could find a high potential player like Engstrom with less exposure than some others. What stands out to me while watching him so far is the mobility and puck skills, kid can really moves the puck, has good size seems to use it well.Yeah, you may be right. There are other guys more touted that were picked later like McConnell-Barker, or even D like George and Forsmark or Lindgren.... And like @WeThreeKings said the lack of international exposure is also a good reason.
Ended up playing top 4 duties at the 4 nations, so absolutely, kid should crack the team with ease, what role remains to be seen, but it looks good, really good.Maybe a chance he makes team Sweden for the U-20s ?
It's such a good move for Adam to go to Rögle. Top notch organization.
What are you still doing here? Go!But I'm still in Montreal.