Nice to see Lekkerimaki is “only” shooting 15.8% too. That’s probably close to a sustainable rate for someone with his skillset. He was at 19% last year in the SHL.
Abbotsford Canucks Thread | Prospects Starting to Heat Up
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ChilliBilly
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A minor note. Yo-yoing these guys as you said they actually have advantages. If I am not mistaken, these guys get a pro salary increase of about 90% so they may be doing them a favour and that they get a decent salary for a few games let me clarify, these guys go from about a $70,000 a year salary to a $850,000.salary even if it’s just for a few days that could make a serious difference to some of them.
Yah its like $1k/game to $10k/game so massive for young guys especially.
And also, while it shouldn't be done lots, at least now the farm is only 1.5 hrs away by car.
A valid point.....trying to survive on an AHL salary of $70,000 or so isn't easy or anyone any more on the Lower Mainland. Even a week-long recall can really help the bottom-line for a lot of these young guys.
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But he is competing fine physically in the AHL?
Somebody who scores 10 goals in 14 games gets the call up. It's not like the AHL is a woman's league, so there isn't some big physical difference. The AHL is a pretty rough league.
We can use a scoring winger, so you have to see if he can start scoring consistently at the NHL level now. A stretch of 4 or 5 games with the big club will not hurt his development.
Of course guys can rip up one league but not be ready for the next. We see it all the time with high-scoring CHL players when they hit the AHL.
Lekkerimaki just blatantly wasn’t ready for the NHL in terms of physicality and defensive play when he was up a few weeks ago. And that’s fine. Leave him in the AHL. Let him rip it up there and keep getting stronger.
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Ernie
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He's not ready. He looked good for a game or two but petered out quickly. He had 2 shots in his last 3 games while getting prime icetime, not good enough for a guy who's one standout quality is his shot. This is not the type of player you can shelter in your bottom six, there's no point in him playing there. He's got to be able to perform in high leverage minutes in the top six.
He also needs to build a lot of strength - this coach wants his wingers to go into the corners.
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Started good, but he lost his confidence. I forgot which game, he started awful and let in 5 goals, got pulled, then Patera got injured so he had to come back in and let in more bad goals. Since then, he has backed up Young (from the games I've watched). I think we will see Young/Silovs take over for the rest of the season over Patera and Tolopilo.
To be fair to Young, he has come in and played really well for a goaltender straight out of junior.
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Agreed. And this is perfectly normal.
There are 27 players from Lekkerimaki's draft class who have played at least one game in the NHL this season. Of those, eleven have played 15 games or more. Of those eleven, only one plays for a team currently above the playoff bar: Conor Geekie.
(Geekie went 11th overall in the draft, 4 spots ahead of J.L. He's 6'4", 207 lbs. Currently he's at 25 gp, /4/4/8.)
It's hard for players of Lekkerimaki's age to succeed in the NHL. It's normal for them to need to spend some more time in a lower league, even if they're high draft picks. Like you, I really hope that management doesn't see a stretch of ten or so good games from J.L. in the A and then bring him up again, only to have him need to go back down, and so on.
Ya it's a poor draft class but I do think Lekkerimaki is on track. A good comparison is Coronato who is an NHL player this year. I think Lekkerimaki might be the better prospect.
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Bad luck, bad drafting and bad development.
We should have got at least one player out of that bunch.
Hansen
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Gadjovich is the one player from that group, and hes not a great one
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Manitoba Moose
| # | Skater | Pos | G | A | PIM | Shots | +/- | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 | Bauer, Tyrel | D | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| 4 | Barteaux, Dawson | D | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1 | |
| 6 | Sautner, Ashton | D | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| 7 | Lundmark, Simon | D | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| 10 | Conley, Kevin | F | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | |
| 13 | Lambert, Brad | F | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| 14 | King, Ben | C | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | |
| 16 | Lucius, Chaz | C | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| 18 | Shaw, Mason | LW | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | -1 | |
| 20 | Empey, Tyson | LW | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | |
| 23 | Kuzmin, Dmitry | D | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| 25 | Ford, Parker | RW | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| 27 | Suess, C.J. | C | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| 28 | Anderson-Dolan, Jaret | F | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
| 41 | Jonsson-Fjällby, Axel | RW | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1 | |
| 45 | Toninato, Dominic | C | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | -1 | |
| 47 | Anhorn, Dylan | D | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1 | |
| 49 | Liwiski, Mark | F | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| # | Goalie | GA | Mins | SA | SVS | G | A | PIM | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 32 | Milic, Thomas | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| 34 | Kahkonen, Kaapo | 1 | 10:20 | 5 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Head Coach: Mark Morrison |
| Assistant Coach: Eric Dubois |
| Assistant Coach: Morgan Klimchuk |
| Goaltending Coach: Drew MacIntyre |
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Mike Keane isn't playing?
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Manitoba Moose with 15 shots on goal.......easy to see why they're dead last in the AHL's Central Division.
Tolopilo with possibly the easiest shutout of his career.
Tolopilo with possibly the easiest shutout of his career.
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December 5th
Watched the entire game back. Manitoba had 7 shots in the 1st. The proceeded to only get 8 more shots the entire game. They got dominated through and through.
I thought McWard had a good game, some turnovers, but he made some good plays and was very active in the offense. There was a play where he just biffed it; it was quite comical. Maybe the Moose are just that bad, but he looked really good when he moved his feet and created a bunch of space for himself.
Pettersson had a quiet night, but you can really tell he's adjusting well on the smaller ice. His gap control was great this game, and he forced players to dump it in or go offside when entering the zone a few times. When players do skate past him, he gets his stick in the right place to tip the puck out of harm's way. If a player tries to go wide, he’ll try to level them with a hip check. There were two heavy hip checks that Pettersson laid this game. It goes to show how well he's adapting and developing, that he can be so defensively responsible at this level.
Kudryavtsev had a good game as well. He was asked to play on the right side this game, and there were some plays he made that were definitely a bit awkward because of it. If they’re trying to develop him into a player who can play the right side, I think it's fine to play him there. But it really seems like they’re putting him there because he's a better option on the right side than Brisebois. I do not think that's a good thing when you have rookies covering for veterans’ weaknesses, it shows that there are some issues on the farm. They need to find a way to move out some LHD.
Lekkerimäki didn't get on the scoresheet, but I felt like he was okay. I would definitely expect him to play better in tomorrow's game since the Moose are there for the taking, and they really should have put up more than 3 goals tonight. These are games where you really expect a player like Lekkerimäki to feast, but he didn’t. Karlsson, on the other hand, did. He was all over the ice and really deserved to be the 1st star tonight.
I think the standard for the next game has been set. They should not be dropping points to the Moose tomorrow.
I thought McWard had a good game, some turnovers, but he made some good plays and was very active in the offense. There was a play where he just biffed it; it was quite comical. Maybe the Moose are just that bad, but he looked really good when he moved his feet and created a bunch of space for himself.
Pettersson had a quiet night, but you can really tell he's adjusting well on the smaller ice. His gap control was great this game, and he forced players to dump it in or go offside when entering the zone a few times. When players do skate past him, he gets his stick in the right place to tip the puck out of harm's way. If a player tries to go wide, he’ll try to level them with a hip check. There were two heavy hip checks that Pettersson laid this game. It goes to show how well he's adapting and developing, that he can be so defensively responsible at this level.
Kudryavtsev had a good game as well. He was asked to play on the right side this game, and there were some plays he made that were definitely a bit awkward because of it. If they’re trying to develop him into a player who can play the right side, I think it's fine to play him there. But it really seems like they’re putting him there because he's a better option on the right side than Brisebois. I do not think that's a good thing when you have rookies covering for veterans’ weaknesses, it shows that there are some issues on the farm. They need to find a way to move out some LHD.
Lekkerimäki didn't get on the scoresheet, but I felt like he was okay. I would definitely expect him to play better in tomorrow's game since the Moose are there for the taking, and they really should have put up more than 3 goals tonight. These are games where you really expect a player like Lekkerimäki to feast, but he didn’t. Karlsson, on the other hand, did. He was all over the ice and really deserved to be the 1st star tonight.
I think the standard for the next game has been set. They should not be dropping points to the Moose tomorrow.
Thought Neilsen was their best player. Him or Aman.
Defense was good - one of the better games for Woo. Kudry was good and EP2 fine.
Lekkermaki played well and seems adjusted to the League. Starting to get ahead of the play at times which will allow him to use his talent better.
DiGuiseppe also looked in first game back after 16 games out. Probably should be back up soon given the play of some of the wingers in Vancouver.
Tolopilo got the shutout and made a few good saves that kept Moose from building any momentum.
Defense was good - one of the better games for Woo. Kudry was good and EP2 fine.
Lekkermaki played well and seems adjusted to the League. Starting to get ahead of the play at times which will allow him to use his talent better.
DiGuiseppe also looked in first game back after 16 games out. Probably should be back up soon given the play of some of the wingers in Vancouver.
Tolopilo got the shutout and made a few good saves that kept Moose from building any momentum.
