Series Talk: [A1] Toronto Maple Leafs vs [WC1] Ottawa Senators | Part II (TOR lead 3-1)

[Commander Clueless]

If this guy touches the ice again this series, the Sens are confirmed trying to lose on purpose.

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"If at first you don't succeed, try it for 8 more years. Eventually it will work!"
-Brendan Shanahan, probably

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Buddy, I say this with all sincerity in the world: You should really find something else to live for.

On this board lol I forget about this shit in like 2 seconds once I am off of here don't you worry little one.

 

[DueDiligence]

Now we're playing the "heavy favourite" card just to make sure all bases are covered.

Leafs get upset, they choked.
Leafs win, they were supposed to.

Sens are a very good team, and they're only going to get better. They finished one point back of Florida, and five behind Tampa. I don't think a lot of intelligent hockey fans would be shocked if they knocked the Leafs off.

No offense but Leafs are the heavy favourites to win this series. If Ottawa wins it would be a big upset.
And if you don't believe that tell me which team would undertake major changes if they lose?

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Of course they would because that's what underdogs do. If you are the heavy favourite you usually wait to "crow" until you've won a round or two; not after the first game.

So wait...we can't even talk shit if we beat the Sens, we have to wait for another round after that? Just trying to get the rules of engagement down here.

 

[Strangle]

No one thinks this. Leafs fans have been through way too much nonsense in the playoffs to assume that this is over.

That said, there are definitely a few Sens fans in this thread acting like the Leafs losing is a foregone conclusion, so maybe check internally with your own side.

No one has to bring up how butt clenching that 4-1 score felt. And where all our minds went at 4-2

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Happy with the 1-0 but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Lots of hockey yet to be played.

Exactly. Enjoy the win and 1-0 series lead, but be humble.

Sens steal one in Toronto tomorrow and the whole series flips.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

No offense but Leafs are the heavy favourites to win this series. If Ottawa wins it would be a big upset.
And if you don't believe that tell me which team would undertake major changes if they lose?

Neither would.

Yes, Leafs are the clear favorites but they have choked year after year after year with this same core and not made changes. Why would this time be any different?

 

[leafsfan5]

No offense but Leafs are the heavy favourites to win this series. If Ottawa wins it would be a big upset.
And if you don't believe that tell me which team would undertake major changes if they lose?

Yeah I mean Toronto should win this series. This isn't like their past series vs TB or BOS where they were up against an elite team. It isn't like 2022 vs TB where they could play well and still lose because they're up against the likes of Kucherov, Vasi, Hedman etc.

If they lose this, it's because the Leafs blow it. Which is obviously possible given it's Toronto

 

[Relapsing]

On this board lol I forget about this shit in like 2 seconds once I am off of here don't you worry little one.

Whatever you say, pookums.

 

[DueDiligence]

Neither would.

Yes, Leafs are the clear favorites but they have choked year after year after year with this same core and not made changes. Why would this time be any different?

So you are saying that if the Leafs lose this series their management brings back all the core 4 plus virtually everyone else? That means signing Marner to a $12 million plus multi year deal, resigning JT ,signing Knies to a big deal, retaining all the D and keeping the goaltending tandem?

 

[All Mod Cons]

No offense but Leafs are the heavy favourites to win this series. If Ottawa wins it would be a big upset.
And if you don't believe that tell me which team would undertake major changes if they lose?

How can they be favourites when they can never win a series?

 

[1specter]

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This is fun.

 

[koyvoo]

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This is fun.

You forgot an Andrew Hammond reference

 

[Just Rude]

No offense but Leafs are the heavy favourites to win this series. If Ottawa wins it would be a big upset.
And if you don't believe that tell me which team would undertake major changes if they lose?

They are favourites for sure. -165 to -170 before the series started is not a heavy favourite.

I see what you're saying, and I guess it's just semantics. Personally, and maybe it's just me, but I think this Sens team is very capable of pulling off an upset. Favourites? 100%. "Heavy"? No way.

My opinion anyway.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

So you are saying that if the Leafs lose this series their management brings back all the core 4 plus virtually everyone else? That means signing Marner to a $12 million plus multi year deal, resigning JT ,signing Knies to a big deal, retaining all the D and keeping the goaltending tandem?

Yes.

 

[D1az]

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It's interesting how some goalies manage to drop completely like this when the playoffs starts. Thinking of Hellebuyck as well.

Does the system in from of them, on both sides, change so completely or is it all nerves?

 

[fbuford]

We won because your players played like morons. That is it. Own it and move on.

Although, most of the penalties were legitimate ...

I will say, that Matthews call was a complete dive, after watching the replay, you could see he barely touched 34 and he went diving into boards as if he was going swimming.

He can't be doing stuff like that, early in the playoffs, if we go for a deep run, refs will be aware of stuff like that.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

It's interesting how some goalies manage to drop completely like this when the playoffs starts. Thinking of Hellebuyck as well.

Does the system in from of them, on both sides, change so completely or is it all nerves?

It's all mental, can't handle the spotlight. Ullmark did the same thing playing behind literally the best regular season of all time, Bruins lost that series because Montgomery refused to stop starting Ullmark.

 

[Evilhomer]

Neither would.

Yes, Leafs are the clear favorites but they have choked year after year after year with this same core and not made changes. Why would this time be any different?

Because Ottawa is a really flawed team right now, especially in net and on special teams.

 

[Beville]

No offense but Leafs are the heavy favourites to win this series. If Ottawa wins it would be a big upset.
And if you don't believe that tell me which team would undertake major changes if they lose?

And yet you look at the season record and we went 3-0-0 against the Leafs.

There’s a hundred ways to look at this result / series.

 

[Sens9292]

Although, most of the penalties were legitimate ...

I will say, that Matthews call was a complete dive, after watching the replay, you could see he barely touched 34 and he went diving into boards as if he was going swimming.

He can't be doing stuff like that, early in the playoffs, if we go for a deep run, refs will be aware of stuff like that.

Refs are well aware that Leaf players embarrassed them last night. Won’t be getting easy calls going forward

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Refs are well aware that Leaf players embarrassed them last night. Won’t be getting easy calls going forward

Lmao sure.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Although, most of the penalties were legitimate ...

I will say, that Matthews call was a complete dive, after watching the replay, you could see he barely touched 34 and he went diving into boards as if he was going swimming.

He can't be doing stuff like that, early in the playoffs, if we go for a deep run, refs will be aware of stuff like that.

It is possible after all these years, the Leafs core is finally figuring out the reffing from the Bruins, Panthers and Lightning. Knowing what they can get away with and what they can control.

We'll see in future games if it looks that way, but phantom high sticks being called to put the Leafs down 5-3 against the Lightning, the only "pick" I've ever seen called against the Lightning, Bruins milking high sticking penalties, the Panthers being able to rough behind the play etc.

It'll be interesting to see, if the Leafs continue to get the kind of reffing those teams get, if they can actually go far at all.

 

[HogTown06]

Going through this thread and I want to make sure I understand this... Fans of a team headlined by Tim Stutzle are complaining that opposing players are diving?

Okay... Got it...

 

[Sens9292]

Lmao sure.

Yes.