Series Talk: [A1] Toronto Maple Leafs vs [WC1] Ottawa Senators | Part II (TOR lead 3-0)

[Korpse]

All the numbers will change game by game.

They will, every game is different.

 

[ottawagm]

Wild levels of arrogance when this rendition of your team is 1-8 in playoffs series after 1 game is hardly basic fanbase behavior. You guys have never been there and it shows.

They never learn.

 

[Evilhomer]

'MuCh betTeR teAm' they were 11 points apart lol.

Toronto is clearly a favorite but this is a wildly inaccurate take.

Okay, we'll see. It will be a short series. Ottawa will be a good team in a couple of years, but they aren't there yet. Similar to Jersey.

 

[cyris]

Goalies are part of the team yes. Is Stolarz going to be incredible every game and Ullmark terrible? I'll let you decide if thats a likely scenario.

Do I think the goaltending will be exactly the same in every game? No
But I do think Toronto has the better goaltending.
And how much of those 5 on 5 numbers are score effects?
The Leafs had at least a 2 goal lead for the majority of the game. Dont you think the Leafs have more push back if the game is close?

 

[LivingRentFree]

It’s hard to understand how a lot of leaf fans are acting in here.

You won on game in the 1st round…wtf are some of these comments acting like this series is over. Even if it was, it’s the first f***ing round…

Personally found the leafs too easy to hate but yall make it too easy for these other ppl man….

who says it’s over? It’s only one game, but it was a great start.

 

[Evilhomer]

Goalies are part of the team yes. Is Stolarz going to be incredible every game and Ullmark terrible? I'll let you decide if thats a likely scenario.

This is hyperbole. Stolarz was hardly "incredible". But will he be better than Ullmark in every game? Yeah, I think that's a relatively safe call, but I would say the same for most goalies against Ullmark in the playoffs. It's very clearly not his stage.

 

[Strangle]

Do I think the goaltending will be exactly the same in every game? No
But I do think Toronto has the better goaltending.
And how much of those 5 on 5 numbers are score effects?
The Leafs had at least a 2 goal lead for the majority of the game. Dont you think the Leafs have more push back if the game is close?

Score effects are very real

 

[Korpse]

And how much of those 5 on 5 numbers are score effects?
The Leafs had at least a 2 goal lead for the majority of the game. Do t you think the Leafs have more push back if the game is close?

Some for sure, score effects generally have a larger effect as the game goes on. Arguing score effects in the first 40 minutes isn’t a strong point.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Yeah marner didn’t loose an edge because he didn’t do the exact same thing as Greig. I don’t have the time to teach you about edges and weight distribution. He lost an edge crashing the net cause marner played it soft.

Probably helps that Marner has some of the best edge work in the game. He absolutely clowned Makar not long ago and that’s saying something.

 

[Leaf Fans]

It’s hard to understand how a lot of leaf fans are acting in here.

You won on game in the 1st round…wtf are some of these comments acting like this series is over. Even if it was, it’s the first f***ing round…

Personally found the leafs too easy to hate but yall make it too easy for these other ppl man….

It is the Leaf Fans who are the ones posting that it has only been one game.

 

[Eat The Rich]

Wild levels of arrogance when this rendition of your team is 1-8 in playoffs series after 1 game is hardly basic fanbase behavior. You guys have never been there and it shows.

This rendition of the Leafs is 1-0 in playoff games.

This rendition of the Leafs has never existed prior to this season.

Previous Leaf teams were a different story as we all know, but a compete goaltending, defense, and coaching overhaul means a new iteration.

 

[cyris]

It is the Leaf Fans whoal are the ones posting that it has only been one game.

Most Leafs fans are very aware it’s just 1 game and it will be a long series. We have been through this many times before.
It’s just kinda funny seeing so many Sens fans on the other side sounding like we used to. Blaming the refs and goaltending and claiming the numbers show they were really the better team without context.
That used to be us lol

 

[TheDoldrums]

Most Leafs fans are very aware it’s just 1 game and it will be a long series. We have been through this many times before.
It’s just kinda funny seeing so many Sens fans on the other side sounding like we used to. Blaming the refs and goaltending and claiming the numbers show they were really the better team without context.
That used to be us lol

Well, well, well. How the turntables...

 

[thusk]

Some for sure, score effects generally have a larger effect as the game goes on. Arguing score effects in the first 40 minutes isn’t a strong point.

You can see 5v5 game started to go in sens side only late in 2nd and in 3rd period

So yeah score effect had been there in that game

 

[1specter]

Just in your kitchen.

Ottawa had more high danger scoring chances, more shots 2 more minutes of zone time at 5 on 5 and the pp's were 6 to 1. Switch the goalies and the score is flipped. Keep up the unbridled arrogance leaf fans this series is over!

Good thing the games aren't played on a spreadsheet. This sounds like the same copium Leaf fans used when they would lose to teams like Columbus and Montreal.

Also pimping chances and shots from when the game was out of reach for Ottawa isn't the flex you think it is.

 

[ashs]

Still nothing by the league regarding the cross check to the head. Unreal.

 

[Korpse]

You can see 5v5 game started to go in sens side only late in 2nd and in 3rd period

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So yeah score effect had been there in that game

Sources are going to vary. Sport Logic had it 1.74-1.13 after 40 rather than 1.27-1.12 as NST had. Sport Logic being the gold standard that public sources can't compete against. There's more to the game than numbers, aside from the penalties I liked the way Ottawa played 5v5. I can buy the argument that Toronto allowed Ottawa to play their game waiting for their chances, the two goals in the first are great examples of how Toronto can take advantage of Ottawa's OZ play. I don't think you can rely on that and the PP for offense in a 7 game series.

 

[bert]

Good thing the games aren't played on a spreadsheet. This sounds like the same copium Leaf fans used when they would lose to teams like Columbus and Montreal.

Also pimping chances and shots from when the game was out of reach for Ottawa isn't the flex you think it is.

Its 1 game lol. You cant see it. Not shocking. It's not over yet.



Leafs took advantage and won they deserved it but you're clearly not capable of actually watching what was happening in that game.

Declaring the series over is laughable.

 

[Korpse]

Still nothing by the league regarding the cross check to the head. Unreal.

Unreal. There will be nothing.

 

[Tuna99]

Leaves nation is going to forever regret saying “Brady Sucks” - he took that personally and so did the team and Torontinos going to pay for it.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Leaves nation is going to forever regret saying “Brady Sucks” - he took that personally and so did the team and Torontinos going to pay for it.

No, he said that he didn't give a $hit. That is the opposite of taking it personally.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Still nothing by the league regarding the cross check to the head. Unreal.

It was already reported there will be no league action

 

[thusk]

Sources are going to vary. Sport Logic had it 1.74-1.13 after 40 rather than 1.27-1.12 as NST had. Sport Logic being the gold standard that public sources can't compete against. There's more to the game than numbers, aside from the penalties I liked the way Ottawa played 5v5. I can buy the argument that Toronto allowed Ottawa to play their game waiting for their chances, the two goals in the first are great examples of how Toronto can take advantage of Ottawa's OZ play. I don't think you can rely on that and the PP for offense in a 7 game series.

the 1st 20 minute, Ottawa created nothing... Stolarz gave up basically their only chance by missing the puck with his stick when he tried to recover the puck...

They started strong with 2 great A scoring chance with Tkachuk breakaway and Pinto all alone in the slot and Stolarz repair his mistake from 1st...They also had 1 or 2 dangerous chance on PP and Stolarz be great. Outside those 2 scoring chance, Ottawa had not been really dangerous at 5v5.

In 3rd rhey had 2 great A scoring chance on the same play, on Greig goal outside this play... Ottawa didn't generate a lot of offensive at 5v5

The big majority of scoring chance ottawa had was in the outside or on rebound Stolarz gave up. Normally Stolarz had been pretty good with rebound but not the case last night, so maybe just anxious a little bit.

Ottawa need to generate more dangerous situation and find a way to go in dirty area because if they still play that way and stay in the outside, one thing i guarantee you is Ottawa will struggling to beat Stolarz because i don't think he will give up as much rebound next game

overall the biggest difference had been ottawa dump penalty and Stolarz made the saves than Ulmark missed... I don't think the score really showing what's happened in the game and could be easily 3-2.

 

[Korpse]

Ottawa need to generate more dangerous situation and find a way to go in dirty area because if they still play that way and stay in the outside, one thing i guarantee you is Ottawa will struggling to beat Stolarz because i don't think he will give up as much rebound next game

I agree they need to generate more, they need more traffic but 9 slot shots would indicate they did fairly well getting the middle, they will want to improve on that but 1/3 of 5v5 shots were from the slot. Toronto defended well and got sticks on pucks.

 

[Schennanigans]

Sens will need significantly better goaltending. What were the shots like 13-5 for sens and it was 2-0 at that point.