HF Habs: A thread for the old fart that we are, 50 years old and counting, younger guy's feel free to chip in too

ChesterNimitz

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A lot character in game then. No helmets, goalies no mask. It was tough game
And most cars didn’t have seat belts back then. And the lack of helmets resulted in Masterson’s death on the ice and the hundreds of athletes who have now died of CTE due to concussions.

‘Tough’ hockey doesn’t mean better hockey.
 
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@50 I never in my life seen a Montreal Rebuild,(Hope never again in future) Were a re-tooll City. McDavids-Crosby's come every 20 years. Even Bedard got Injured. He's talented but a small Guy!
 

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And most cars didn’t have seat belts back then. And the lack of helmets resulted in Masterson’s death on the ice and the hundreds of athletes who have now died of CTE due to concussions.

‘Tough’ hockey doesn’t mean better hockey.
Look who it is. An impressive carrier named after you became aware not too too long ago of a pretty decent stretch of beach as well, not as nice as the adjacent Eisenhauer one but a heck of a lot easier to access than my great gramps mountain peak I can tell ya. I guess some admirals get all the glory, and some get ................?............ rock.:facepalm:
 
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ChesterNimitz

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I remember in '84 when they went 35-40.... everyone was down...
But it was a team on the cusp of being a contender with a host of young and up and coming stars Richer, Lemieux, Chelios, Corson, Roy, Naslund, Smith, etc. who were about to make their mark on the game.

Our current team doesn’t have anything close to that level of promise or young talent.
 
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ChesterNimitz

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Look who it is. An impressive carrier named after you became aware not too too long ago of a pretty decent stretch of beach as well, not as nice as the adjacent Eisenhauer one but a heck of a lot easier to access than my great gramps mountain peak I can tell ya. I guess some admirals get all the glory, and some get ................?............ rock.:facepalm:
Don't know quite what your point is, but for the record, Dwight D. Eisenhower was the 34th president of the U.S. and a five star general in the U.S. Army. In recognition of his great service to his country ,the second of ten Nimitz - class nuclear - powered aircraft carriers was named the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) which is currently still in service with the United States Navy. There may be other places named in this great man's honour.
 
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Lafleurs Guy

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@50 I never in my life seen a Montreal Rebuild,(Hope never again in future) Were a re-tooll City. McDavids-Crosby's come every 20 years. Even Bedard got Injured. He's talented but a small Guy!
I wish we saw a rebuild in the mid to late 90s... :laugh: Might've actually won a cup by now.
 

JianYang

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@50 I never in my life seen a Montreal Rebuild,(Hope never again in future) Were a re-tooll City. McDavids-Crosby's come every 20 years. Even Bedard got Injured. He's talented but a small Guy!

I think the rebuild is just unavoidable now.

Back in the sam pollock era, he could move some decent vets to secure high draft picks. Other organizations were shortsighted and desperate enough to make such moves.

I mean, the thing that never really gets talked about in the 70s is the number of first round picks that the Habs had compiled. If one didn't know any better, they would think the Habs were a perennial basement team in that decade.

Fast forward to today, organizations are holding on to their lottery picks like gold, and the cap ensures that you have a limited window to keep your guys together.

Hockey is more cyclic from a compeitive standpoint than ever before, and everyone meets that fork in the road where they will have to go through pain again. It's just the reality.
 

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And most cars didn’t have seat belts back then. And the lack of helmets resulted in Masterson’s death on the ice and the hundreds of athletes who have now died of CTE due to concussions.

‘Tough’ hockey doesn’t mean better hockey.
I liked the game better back then more than now. More character in it. No helmets etc... Guy Lafleur skating down the ice hair flowing. Great broadcasting Danny Gallivan, Foster Hewitt, etc... Every rink had its own identity. Pipe organ in Chicago, Boston Garden right over the ice.

Could build a great team. All teams had their stars. Bobby Orr, Espo in Boston. Bobby Hull, Glenn Hall in Chicago. Keon, Johnny Bower, Horton in Toronto. Rangers with Ratelle, Gilbert Park, Howe, Devecchio in Detroit. It was great teams against good teams.

Today every team all the same. Rebuild for 10 years, bad clubs, draft high. Be good for 10 years. Then do it all over again. Chicago, Tampa, LA, Pittsburgh they all built same way.
 
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I liked the game better back then more than now. More character in it. No helmets etc... Guy Lafleur skating down the ice hair flowing. Great broadcasting Danny Gallivan, Foster Hewitt, etc... Every rink had its own identity. Pipe organ in Chicago, Boston Garden right on the ice.

Could build a great team. All teams had their stars. Bobby Orr, Espo in Boston. Bobby Hull, Glenn Hall in Chicago. Keon, Johnny Bower, Horton in Toronto. Rangers with Estelle, Gilbert Park, Howe, Devecchio in Detroit. It was great teams against good teams.

Today every team all the same. Rebuild for 10 years, bad clubs, draft high. Be good for 10 years. Then do it all over again. Chicago, Tampa, LA, Pittsburgh they all built same way.
That was a fun time, to be a Habs fan..............that said, the kids now are better athletes no question.
There used to be one Sam Pollock, now everyone tries to be Sam Pollock.....

The league first and foremost, the owners second, wanted a cap and parity..............this is where we are.
The teams have all been put on a level playing field of sorts..............until we hear more about warm climates and no taxes......the agents drive that bus.

Habs are turning a corner, and we can only hope to find some success ala Chicago, Tampa, LA and Pittsburgh....
 

JianYang

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I liked the game better back then more than now. More character in it. No helmets etc... Guy Lafleur skating down the ice hair flowing. Great broadcasting Danny Gallivan, Foster Hewitt, etc... Every rink had its own identity. Pipe organ in Chicago, Boston Garden right over the ice.

Could build a great team. All teams had their stars. Bobby Orr, Espo in Boston. Bobby Hull, Glenn Hall in Chicago. Keon, Johnny Bower, Horton in Toronto. Rangers with Ratelle, Gilbert Park, Howe, Devecchio in Detroit. It was great teams against good teams.

Today every team all the same. Rebuild for 10 years, bad clubs, draft high. Be good for 10 years. Then do it all over again. Chicago, Tampa, LA, Pittsburgh they all built same way.

I grew up in the 90s where we saw alot of historic rinks come down. The Boston garden, Chicago stadium, Montreal forum, and Maple leaf gardens all went out of commission in this decade.

Even though I was only a kid, those rinks still felt different. Boston garden was a grungy sandbox, and I'll never forget the noise in Chicago, the organ, and the stairs that the players had to climb before jumping on the ice.

Ray Ferraro has always said the forum was his favourite. Unlike the other old rinks, he said the forum was a shrine, and they actually treated it like one. It was clean and tidy while the other original 6 rinks mentioned were dirty and run down.
 
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I grew up in the 90s where we saw alot of historic rinks come down. The Boston garden, Chicago stadium, Montreal forum, and Maple leaf gardens all went out of commission in this decade.

Even though I was only a kid, those rinks still felt different. Boston garden was a grungy sandbox, and I'll never forget the noise in Chicago, the organ, and the stairs that the players had to climb before jumping on the ice.

Ray Ferraro has always said the forum was his favourite. Unlike the other old rinks, he said the forum was a shrine, and they actually treated it like one. It was clean and tidy while the other original 6 rinks mentioned were dirty and run down.
I grew up in '70s. Mostly, little late '60s early '80s. Character in the game back then. I remember being on pins and needles during any of the Russian series. From '72 to '84. Even '87.
 
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habdynasty

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The day I was born the habs beat the North stars 6-3. Cournoyer, Beliveau, Ferguson, H Richard and Provost scored.

ya I’m old.​

 
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angusyoung

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Don't know quite what your point is, but for the record, Dwight D. Eisenhower was the 34th president of the U.S. and a five star general in the U.S. Army. In recognition of his great service to his country ,the second of ten Nimitz - class nuclear - powered aircraft carriers was named the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) which is currently still in service with the United States Navy. There may be other places named in this great man's honour.
Well it's actually a little funny to me as you never know when a memory resurfaces, in some cases a scent, a song a particular taste and in this case an uncommon name. And you can chalk all that up to boredom as I set aside time to observe the TDL and reading threads and flopping all over the place and came across your name, BAM! triggered recent events. It's as simple as that. We had been to the beach not that long ago and there is also a hiway named after Nimitz BTW. We had been visiting family and friends and also discussed some historical events pertinent to the area and date at the time. Many things are named after key figures in history for their accomplishments, rightfully so. It was simply an observation seeing as my great gramps ( Admiral of the fleet and also the first governor general of the VOC ) only got the mountain, as far as we know considering all his accomplishments. We, the mrs and I feel as if we've come full-circle in a roundabout way with our union almost predestined. Anyways, enough blather and back to the boards ramblings and idiosyncrasies and see what this Montreal organization is and will be up to come Draft day and Free agency frenzy.
 

Laurentide

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I remember in '84 when they went 35-40.... everyone was down...
But then they beat Boston, Quebec, and went to the Conference Finals and won the first 2 games. Two years later, despite finishing 7th or 8th overall in a then 21 team league (i.e. middle of the pack) we managed to win a Cup with a hot goalie and a lot of luck (mostly having the teams that would have certainly beaten us get beat by other, lesser teams that we could beat)

The day I was born the habs beat the North stars 6-3. Cournoyer, Beliveau, Ferguson, H Richard and Provost scored.

ya I’m old.​

The day I was born the Leafs waltzed into the Forum and beat the Habs 6-0. Fortunately the Habs went on to win the Cup that year.
 

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Young man here , I've never seen a good habs team in my entire life , how was it?

After 93 the team was total garbage for 2 decades you didn't miss much. They went from a winning formula of size, skill and team toughness to cupcakes and small goofy wingers for some reason. People developed drinking and drug issues following this team in the 90's and upto 2015, so consider yourself lucky. The Molson family should be ashamed, took GG to give it a little life.
 

The Gr8 Dane

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After 93 the team was total garbage for 2 decades you didn't miss much. They went from a winning formula of size, skill and team toughness to cupcakes and small goofy wingers for some reason. People developed drinking and drug issues following this team in the 90's and upto 2015, so consider yourself lucky. The Molson family should be ashamed, took GG to give it a little life.
Yeah I was born in 95 so I've never seen anything impressive , aside from CP31
 

cphabs

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Things are different these days. The league is a capped profit sharing socialist scheme. Successful franchises can not use their fan base’s patronage to improve it. I find this disgusting. The league is also expanding while exhausting a limited prospect pool for every member.
 

Surfer72

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I'm 51. I grew up of stories from my grandfather of Maurice Richard and Jean Beliveau. My dad told me stories of Boom Boom, Yvan Cournoyer, later Ken Dryden and the dreaded Russians. Eventually stories and my own memories of Guy Lafleur and Larry Robinson. I am now telling my son of stories of Patrick Roy and Carey Price...along with the players of my youth.

My true childhood hockey memories starts around 1979/80 with collecting cards and putting them in that cardboard locker case. I lost many of Gretzky rookie cards gambling at recess with various games against the wall or in the spokes of my bike because he was scoring more than Lafleur.

Later came the sticker books and playing foot hockey before school, at recess, and during lunch with either a tennis ball or a flattened pop can. goalies got to use their jackets held out in front almost like a matador in a bull fight to act like goalie pads to help stop the ball or can kicked at them. Book bags made the posts and goalies screamed their favourite goalies names when making epic saves...I can still hear the calls of Mike Palmateer!! Or Mike Liut !! Or Pete Peters!!

I was lucky to see the Roy cups during my early teens and another in my early 20's.

I have seen great teams and a lot of stinkers. Some years I pay more attention than others.

This rebuild is hard but needed...I hope something comes of it.
 
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