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A team from Florida will be competing in the Stanley Cup final for the 6th year in a row

None of that matters. it's ALL because of taxes. Your drafting? Taxes. Trade skills? Taxes. Every iota of success is bc of taxes. Even the weather in FL is tax related bc we switch the tax burden to the tourists. Even the weather is the taxes fault. Beaches? Taxes. We owe everything to taxes. It's all on auto-pilot now. Death, taxes and Florida hockey! Murica!
Trade skills? Y'all were blowing all of your 1st round picks on nonfactor players every damn year at the TDL. 1st for Chiarot sure paid off.

I guess having players waive their NMC because of taxes and weather is also a skill??
 
In what world is this a straw man? You told me a hockey player would not base a decision around money, which is HILARIOUS. Try making 10m as Marner in Toronto then be told he takes home an extra 4 million if he signed in Florida for the same salary. Sports players do not have a state pension or retirement plan. That money matters. Why do you think they have agents pushing for every dollar they can? Why are so many former players getting into coaching and broadcasting?
Tage, can you detail how you came up with the 4M? My estimate would be less than $1M. Certainly something, but no where close to what your number is.
 
Drafting core players with the 1OA and 2OA, what front office genius!!!!! Has clearly never been done before.
I gave you an answer as to how they built their core with drafted players. You didn’t like the answer. I don’t know what to say other than state income taxes not being present in Florida wasn’t a problem until Tampa and Florida started winning, so why is it a problem now?
 
Trade skills? Y'all were blowing all of your 1st round picks on nonfactor players every damn year at the TDL. 1st for Chiarot sure paid off.

I guess having players waive their NMC because of taxes and weather is also a skill??
A. he's a Lightning fan, so his team had nothing to do with Shitrot,

B. Every damn year? That was one year, Zito also brought in Giroux as the Panthers won the President's Trophy. Shitrot did nothing, Giroux was meh, but worse several guys did little and went to a strip club. That post-season, players were shipped out, other players (Tkachuk) were brought in, the coach who brought us the regular season champ trophy was fired and Maurice was brought in. The only year a first was "wasted."

Zito did nothing at the deadline the following year as guys flushed out Bruno's coaching style and embraced Mo's systems. Then went to the Finals. With Yandle's huge cap hit handcuffing Zito.

Last year, he let more guys walk, brought in other guys who fit the system, traded for Tarasenko and Oldposo at the deadline, we won a Cup.

Pretty lame dig, and like the tax bullshit, is well, full of shit.
 
I gave you an answer as to how they built their core with drafted players. You didn’t like the answer. I don’t know what to say other than state income taxes not being present in Florida wasn’t a problem until Tampa and Florida started winning, so why is it a problem now?
His info is all messed up anyway, nothing really has any substance.
 
I gave you an answer as to how they built their core with drafted players. You didn’t like the answer. I don’t know what to say other than state income taxes not being present in Florida wasn’t a problem until Tampa and Florida started winning, so why is it a problem now?
They don’t really care about any of that, they just really love telling that story.
 
None of that matters. it's ALL because of taxes. Your drafting? Taxes. Trade skills? Taxes. Every iota of success is bc of taxes. Even the weather in FL is tax related bc we switch the tax burden to the tourists. Even the weather is the taxes fault. Beaches? Taxes. We owe everything to taxes. It's all on auto-pilot now. Death, taxes and Florida hockey! Murica!
Tampa too. How do you think you got Kucherov, Stamkos, Point? Taxes was what made the McDonagh and Sergachev deals possible. Didn’t you know???
 
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the reason you write fanfictions among yourselves about barkov's leadership is to convince yourself that guys like 40 goal Selke nominee SC champions like Reinhart would re-sign for 8.6 anywhere other than a no taxed state, thus convincing yourselves this enormous tax advantage does not exist. add all these savings up and Florida easily has a 6mil + advantage to work with. Florida's an elite team, bolstered by a significantly beneficial tax situation

You’ve been proven to be hilariously wrong so many times, and you still back for more. It’s so cute, or pathetic, can’t decide which.
 
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You’ve been proven to be hilariously wrong so many times, and you still back for more. It’s so cute, or pathetic, can’t decide which.
you think a 40 goal scoring 1st line 4n playing SC winning Selke nominee re-signs for 8.6 in Toronto in 2025?
 
It’s really sad you’ve been given facts and evidence, yet you still come back got take more beatings from everyone. Don’t you have some arithmetic to work on? Or some coloring books to finish?
you think a 40 goal scoring 1st line 4n playing SC winning Selke nominee re-signs for 8.6 in Toronto in 2025?
 
Sucks for Canada I guess. Maybe work on government reform or something to lower taxes. Not many NYR, Bruins, and CA teams complaining despite being in onerous tax states as well. Must be cultural.
 
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If every fan in the NHL had Florida's "passion" for the sport, the league would be going under next season for practically giving their tickets away.
That’s an interesting perspective. You can argue the only reason teams such as the Panthers exist in the first place is due to being subsidized by northern markets. The flaw with NHL’s and Bettman’s growth system is that he assumes those markets will somehow catch up to the Northern and Canadians ones by winning, when it will never happen. Imagine how much more views would the final get if it was Edmonton vs Toronto. Triple the amounts.
 
Trade skills? Y'all were blowing all of your 1st round picks on nonfactor players every damn year at the TDL. 1st for Chiarot sure paid off.

I guess having players waive their NMC because of taxes and weather is also a skill??
My bad
 

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Reinhart?
He signed right after winning the Cup with them. Its also feasible to sign to try and keep your core together. He's also paid $11 Million this past year and $10 Million the next year. Later on in the contract he took a lesser salary bonus to bring down the AAV. I am sorry that your team attracts "Player First" type of players instead of team first players... but that shouldnt be a knock on Florida.
 
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Sucks for Canada I guess. Maybe work on government reform or something to lower taxes. Not many NYR, Bruins, and CA teams complaining despite being in onerous tax states as well. Must be cultural.
Yeah, Americans definitely never complain about anything. No whining in that culture at all lol.
 
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That’s an interesting perspective. You can argue the only reason teams such as the Panthers exist in the first place is due to being subsidized by northern markets. The flaw with NHL’s and Bettman’s growth system is that he assumes those markets will somehow catch up to the Northern and Canadians ones by winning, when it will never happen. Imagine how much more views would the final get if it was Edmonton vs Toronto. Triple the amounts.
Then win if you're so great and we can verify that.
 
Drafting core players with the 1OA and 2OA, what front office genius!!!!! Has clearly never been done before.
Exactly, they're not doing anything special. What we are saying is we do not get why you think they are. Its not drastically better than the dominant franchises that just came before. Teams rebuild hard, add great draft talent and if they build enough 4-5 star talent through that, good trades, rarely but maybe a key ufa, they then become repetitive contenders for around 5 years, 7-12 years after that key draft.

They're not so different from Edmonton, what did they do, draft franchise players 1st and 3rd overall 7-12ish years ago and now built depth around them.

6 years of Florida teams in a final... but in the 2010s we had Chicago-Boston-California teams 7 straight years. Some high market taxes there. Boston is one of the rare teams built not cored around multiple top 3 picks. Usually, also 1 of those picks isn't a hit, the good teams trade them before they loose value. Chi-tampa-Florida-Pittsburgh all traded a 2nd or 3rd overall who wasn't up to snuff to help their later cup runs. (Idk if the Stall trade tree was fruitful for Pitt actually)

The Flordia teams will crash when their stars age out. They won't stay supreme teams by adding a bunch of players for cheap because of tax breaks. Is that what you fear will happen? It sounds so from your, how many years will it take claim.
 
I hope so. Believe me, getting the Southern and Western markets turning out hockey talent would be a sea change in the relationship between US and Canadian men's hockey. If the nontraditional hocket markets get bit by the bug and start drawing talent away from the football and basketball teams, US men's hockey could become an international force for a very long time.
Then let's hope they stick to football and basketball 😏
 
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