A shambolic league

[Kocur26]

I hate the TBL - I hate Cooper but this quote is disgraceful .

“Even the official score sheet given to the media at the game noted there were six Colorado skaters on the ice when the goal was scored (including the goalie). NHL curiously then edited the sheet to lower that number to five, according to ESPN.com”

That’s cnn like …

I don’t trust Toronto one bit with anything- who is in Toronto making calls by way behind a curtain ?

Whether it was a good winning goal or not isn’t the real issue - it’s that quote .

That’s Bettman’s NHL - where the owners work for him unlike the NFL where Goodell works for the owners .

BTW Jim Dolan has long been a target of that ratfaced pos.

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[KirkAlbuquerque]

I don't like Tampa very much but I can't stand Colorado. They get every conceivable break.

 

[Raspewtin]

I viscerally hate Colorado for no great reason (besides their shithead fans on the mainboards) and want Tampa to win, regardless of the "integrity" of it

the league has no integrity and we should stop pretending it does

 

[NCRanger]

I've said it once, I've said it a million times. Gary Bettman's first job out of law school was in the NBA Marketing Department when franchises were changing cities like parents change baby diapers, the playoffs were tape delayed, and the league had very little exposure anywhere. After the Knicks won in 1973, the league almost collapsed.

What happened? Well, at the end of 1979, you know Bird and Magic. Wasn't just that. The league has admitted that regular season games were rigged to stoke interest in vulnerable cities. Stars were given a wide berth so that 50 point games would be somewhat common to spur interest. The game was changed to be more entertainment than necessarily the sport of basketball. League decided that Boston and LA (Bird and Magic) would be the league's meal tickets.

Guess who was behind most of it - Gary Bettman.

Are things being rigged? I don't know. There just seems to be way too much to be able to be chalked up to human error and incompetence.

 

[n8]

I viscerally hate Colorado for no great reason (besides their shithead fans on the mainboards) and want Tampa to win, regardless of the "integrity" of it

the league has no integrity and we should stop pretending it does

I don't like Tampa very much but I can't stand Colorado. They get every conceivable break.

Y'all enjoy hearing "Jack Johnson, Stanley Cup champion!"

 

[bobbop]

It was a loose line change. Almost never called.

Ask Barry Trotz about Palat’s goal last year in the playoffs.

I did see a Detroit goal against Anaheim called back in 2003 but the player Federov was changing for was 20 feet from the bench.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I hate the TBL - I hate Cooper but this quote is disgraceful .

“Even the official score sheet given to the media at the game noted there were six Colorado skaters on the ice when the goal was scored (including the goalie). NHL curiously then edited the sheet to lower that number to five, according to ESPN.com”

That’s cnn like …

I don’t trust Toronto one bit with anything- who is in Toronto making calls by way behind a curtain ?

Whether it was a good winning goal or not isn’t the real issue - it’s that quote .

That’s Bettman’s NHL - where the owners work for him unlike the NFL where Goodell works for the owners .

BTW Jim Dolan has long been a target of that ratfaced pos.

Uh, I can think of another couple media outlets you can target, there . . . Sheesh.

It was a loose line change. Almost never called.

Ask Barry Trotz about Palat’s goal last year in the playoffs.

I did see a Detroit goal against Anaheim called back in 2003 but the player Federov was changing for was 20 feet from the bench.

Yep. This is regular. It's not going to get called unless it is insanely egregious.

 

[Chaels Arms]

That happens a thousand times per game and doesn't get called.

 

[Fitzy]

Are things being rigged? I don't know. There just seems to be way too much to be able to be chalked up to human error and incompetence.

I think you're wildly underestimating the ability of human beings to commit errors and be incompetent.

We watch the highest level athletes in the world make boneheaded mistakes on a near gamely basis. Is it that hard to believe the officials do too?

 

[Kocur26]

Sorry that can’t happen in the SCF …

It’s like in the neighborhood went away in mlb w replay .

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Tampa needs to stop crying, whiniest team in the league they know full well that line change had 0 to do with the goal, just a bunch of cry babies. Jon Cooper is out here trying to negotiate a call for next game, just shut up and play hockey.

 

[Turbonium]

I don't like Tampa very much but I can't stand Colorado. They get every conceivable break.

True, like Val's goal in game 3 being allowed on the super close offside call, or Landeskog against San Jose a couple years back and that goal being allowed...oh wait....

Give me a break.

 

[Chaels Arms]

I think you're wildly underestimating the ability of human beings to commit errors and be incompetent.

We watch the highest level athletes in the world make boneheaded mistakes on a near gamely basis. Is it that hard to believe the officials do too?

Yup. "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

 

[New York RKY]

Oh, Larry.

 

[NYRFAN218]

I think you're wildly underestimating the ability of human beings to commit errors and be incompetent.

We watch the highest level athletes in the world make boneheaded mistakes on a near gamely basis. Is it that hard to believe the officials do too?

Yeah, people need to really back down on the conspiracy theory stuff. Refs are human, players are human, people within the league are human. Are some of them incompetent? Absolutely. Some of them bad at their job? Sure. Was it a blown call last night? I think so and it looks worse given the timing of it though something like that happens many times throughout a season and sometimes even in the same game. But I'm just tired of reading after every single bad call or call that goes against a team that the league hates the Rangers, they have a thing for Colorado and want them to win, the league loved Tampa last round but hates them now. Tampa was the beneficiary of a similar play last year and was on the wrong end of it this year. Isn't that pretty telling that maybe it's just human error at play?

If Tampa is so upset maybe next overtime they should consider playing the OT in the other teams zone instead of their own the entire period.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Weren't there also 6 Lightning players on the ice as well?

 

[NYRFAN218]

Weren't there also 6 Lightning players on the ice as well?

6 or 7 but I personally thought they were on the border of that within 5 feet of the bench threshold and they had no material impact on the play. I think it's way different than Kadri who had jumped on the ice while Mackinnon was basically in line with the goaltender in Tampa's zone who zoomed to the middle of the ice to receive the pass.

 

[huerter]

I'd love to see the people who think the league is a sham be in charge.

 

[haveandare]

It’s a change that happens a million times every season, nothing curious about it at all. And what do you have to trust Toronto about? The games are on TV lol just watch what happens with your own eyes

 

[nyrleetch]

Yeah, people need to really back down on the conspiracy theory stuff. Refs are human, players are human, people within the league are human. Are some of them incompetent? Absolutely. Some of them bad at their job? Sure. Was it a blown call last night? I think so and it looks worse given the timing of it though something like that happens many times throughout a season and sometimes even in the same game. But I'm just tired of reading after every single bad call or call that goes against a team that the league hates the Rangers, they have a thing for Colorado and want them to win, the league loved Tampa last round but hates them now. Tampa was the beneficiary of a similar play last year and was on the wrong end of it this year. Isn't that pretty telling that maybe it's just human error at play?

If Tampa is so upset maybe next overtime they should consider playing the OT in the other teams zone instead of their own the entire period.

Whole OT felt like a PowerPlay.

But yeah agreed with you, I think the whole thing was overblown, there have been way more egregious too many men calls that are missed. Like you said, Tampa benefited on a huge one last year against the Isles too.

It happens.

 

[Machinehead]

Yep. This is regular. It's not going to get called unless it is insanely egregious.

It was insanely egregious.

Kadri was on the ice a year and a day before MacKinnon got off.



Had it not been the goal-scorer jumping on the ice early I could see it, but it was.

 

[NCRanger]

I think you're wildly underestimating the ability of human beings to commit errors and be incompetent.

We watch the highest level athletes in the world make boneheaded mistakes on a near gamely basis. Is it that hard to believe the officials do too?

The only reason I bring it up is because the NBA did rig results during the early 80s with Bettman at the helm of the marketing department.

I'm not saying anything about last night's goal. I don't think it was necessarily an issue. I'm talking in general. There are too many fishy things that happen over the course of a season to be completely chalked up to incompetence.

 

[romba]

It was a loose line change. Almost never called.

Ask Barry Trotz about Palat’s goal last year in the playoffs.

I did see a Detroit goal against Anaheim called back in 2003 but the player Federov was changing for was 20 feet from the bench.

I feel like we scored a gwg that way too in the playoffs, maybe against Pitt. 6th guy goes on and gets 2-3 strides while the 5th guy makes his way off. It’s rarely called, not a big deal at all. Sure I’d be annoyed if it came against us, but knowing it goes both ways makes it palatable.

It was insanely egregious.

Kadri was on the ice a year and a day before MacKinnon got off.



Had it not been the goal-scorer jumping on the ice early I could see it, but it was.

That’s a bit rougher than I though, Kadri needed to wait another 2-3 seconds and it would be manageable, should have been too many men

 

[Machinehead]

While I think the non-call was terrible, I totally get the league editing that record and I don't think it's some "cover up" or a conspiracy. We know they edited it and they're hiding that they edited it.

The referees are union. They're not going to stand for one of their mistakes being displayed on official league record like that. The NHL would have been in a lot of trouble if they didn't edit it.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

It was insanely egregious.

Kadri was on the ice a year and a day before MacKinnon got off.



Had it not been the goal-scorer jumping on the ice early I could see it, but it was.

This is not all that egregious to me and I wouldn't even cry foul if that goal was scored on us.

I can see why Tampa fans would be complaining, but I also can't fault the refs for not calling that penalty in OT. Not egregious enough for me.

Seems like a bad call but not one to just claim the league is basically fixing games and all.