Post-Game Talk: A Pure-Laine Hat-Trick in Montreal vs the Sabres

SwiftyHab

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This is HFboards, we love picks and prospects more than anything else!
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ChesterNimitz

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whenever i'm talking about stockholm syndrome being renamed as habs syndrome this is what i'm talking about

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One of the most important talents in professional sports is availability.

In his previous 8 seasons Laine has only played two full seasons. As players age their durability, and resulting availability, lessens.

Some here are also seemingly allergic to the concept of foreseeability.
 

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One of the most important talents in professional sports is availability.

In his previous 8 seasons Laine has only played two full seasons. As players age their durability, and resulting availability, lessens.

Some here are also seemingly allergic to the concept of foreseeability.
Laine is just 26 though he is at least around 4 years away from aging having an effect on him. The main wall between him and being healthy is mental and a bit of luck if the mental is there.
 

President XD

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Imagine what Laine could garner us at the trade deadline if his production continues?

Just a thought.
How about building around him instead? He's only 26. I get that many here are obsessed with picks and prospects but at some point you need to keep some of the players that perform well and try to continue building around those players.
 
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Good to be on the right side of a blowout game once in while, loved the Laine acquisition from day one always liked the guy, always tought that he was more than a shot, hope he can get the rest of his game back.
Five more in a row just like it and we can get our differential down to -1. :sarcasm:
 
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One of the most important talents in professional sports is availability.

In his previous 8 seasons Laine has only played two full seasons. As players age their durability, and resulting availability, lessens.

Some here are also seemingly allergic to the concept of foreseeability.

True. But it is just one. Sports is also a form of entertainment, where value of things are measured how entertaining they're now. In case of PL, it is indeed just to point out and take account to his past from the perspective of 'broken commodity', but when doing that, one must also point out his resilience to overcome adversity: it's not first time for him to rise from the ash. That is important part of that 'foreseeability' too.

Then, hoping for good draft picks is OK, and natural urge, but when valuing such things and totally unseen and not yet materialized potential of a future player that high over proven players playing now, you can't see what happens now leads easily to a maelstrom of perpetual rebuilding. Picks are nice and all, but that niceness tend to get too shortsighted for purposes of real rebuilding. Instant gratification of potentially game-changing, generational pick blinds too often to actually focus to develop those pieces and assets a team already have.

Patrik is certainly valuable asset also from rebuilding purposes, but that's because he is rare talent of very small group of comparable peers. With him comes also a risk, but the risk involved is at least someway 'foreseeable' unlike in cases of potential future development of player of pick number xx of 202X.

In a goal scoring game of hockey it is foreseeable that Patrik scores goals with very high efficiency, entertainment value. Goals, you know, are the immediate objective of the game. Actual goals, not potential or hypothetical ones.

I do not disagree per se, but there are no point to promote only narratives that lead to a mind set of perpetual rebuild, and never ending draft pick ballet. I personally find that not that entertaining.
 
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I know the win was against Buffalo, but damn that was fun to watch. So many of our players stood out this game. I'm really impressed with how the boys stepped on the gas. Once the Sabres scored to make it 2-1.

Hell I'm bored and my wife said I have to be on my best behavior. So I may watch the game again. :D
 

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Really? How many of us are prepared to go to our boss and say, I'm prepared to take 10% less in compensation to buy into our business' concept. If you know such a person please let me know and I will hire him/her tomorrow.

In today's world, no player in his prime is leaving mega millions of dollars on the table for any supposed team concept or any other reason for that matter.

Let's get real. We will have to pay Laine what his market value is. And not much less.
Lots of normal people don't leave where they put down roots for 10% more pay. I sure as heck wouldn't.

Plenty of NHLers have taken less than market value because they like the direction of the team.

Montreal also has the advantage of offering an 8 year contract to a 28 year old Laine where other teams can only offer 7. Thats almost a 15% cap advantage in itself.
 

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I'm purely a Finnish homer and have warm feelings to your franchise mostly just because of Saku Koivu. Though Guy Lafleur was probably the first French name that registered in my distant childhood :) Laine is really so special, we don't abound in natural goal scorers and to my mind his outgoing and tempestuous (and quite un-Finnish) personality is very charming. He has had such an uneven career, so many injuries and dry periods, and who can tell, but god, he really is a special talent! You will undoubtedly be wise to wait and see, but I so hope that his troubles would now finally be behind him.
 

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Really? How many of us are prepared to go to our boss and say, I'm prepared to take 10% less in compensation to buy into our business' concept. If you know such a person please let me know and I will hire him/her tomorrow.

In today's world, no player in his prime is leaving mega millions of dollars on the table for any supposed team concept or any other reason for that matter.

Let's get real. We will have to pay Laine what his market value is. And not much less.

And that would be the right thing to do IF he can get the rest of his game back, i mean PL is an elite goal scorer with size he matches that with very good stickhandling and vision.

We have the chance to wait and see if he can get to where he was in his first years in Winnipeg before offering him an extension, that's a good thing.
 

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that shot though? I had to rewind a couple of times to see his first shot, on the short side, go in. Wow. I think he had 3 goals on 5 shots + a post. Wow. Been a minute since we’ve witnessed a shot like that….here.

HuGo are gamblers, I’m sure they have a number & term that would work for them, now. However, we all know if a GM makes them an offer they can’t refuse at this TDL or next, they will seriously run their numbers by PL.

Laine has had a front seat to our miserable season and yet, he still seems genuinely happy and pleased to be part of what we’re building. He’s having fun & retrospective enough to identify areas of his game he can improve. That maybe our only way to keep him, if he sees future success and a comfortable/peaceful mindset in Mtl.
 

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