Management A letter from Charlie Jacobs

Yeah spot on, this has always been my perspective on how the Jacobs operate. It's a good business model, but it compromises your ability to win Cups.

The current management had the runs on the board to survive one bad year. The crowds held up likely because of the past years of competitive play and the fact of New England being a comparatively wealthy, sports-obsessed and populous area. But I think one year is the limit. They suck again next season and then Sweeney and Neely are out the door, and we might even see whether the Jacobs are willing to ride out a full rebuild, or they look to sell.

Hopefully the quick re-tool works, but if it doesn't it could be a real watershed moment for the franchise.
Yep. Need early picks like Tampa and Florida for years and use them to develop or trade. Also need a GM who wins most of his deals and signs the right kind of players. Toronto and Edmonton don't have that.
 
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Since the Cap was put in place, the Bruins usually spend at the top. The BIGGER issue is on how they manage the Cap.

It got Chia fired.
Sure, how they use the cap is the issue. If you own a business, you want to make money. No owner wants to lose money. Charlie works day in and out with this front office. Some moves are his orders in regards to going for it while the old man is alive. They are now paying the price. He acknowledged it. Some moves are Neely’s orders too I would assume. Finally the rest is Sweeney’s. We all have bosses. Charlie is happy with the results. He has a consistent front office that has been steady for years. They compete and make money. Hello! Why would he f*** it up. He’s been to the finals 3x. The players and coach f***ed it up, not the front office. I might not agree with Sweeney’s decisions in drafting and especially the pro assessment of players, but it’s not all bad. Better to know your enemy than not. I see a lot of teams just suck forever and they keep firing people left and right. I assume this is it for those two. They will probably have to sign players to appease the owner. The right move is to draft again.
 
I am surprised you were surprised by Haggerty's sucking up. It is par for the course to me.
(I had trouble with the guy on this board. The Simonetti fan club nickname was a derisive response to one of my admittedly bombastic postings. I find the guy insecure and petty and well capable of shamelessly sucking up.
To his credit, he does not usually do it, but he is very capable of it.)
I realize that many here are not fans.

And at least years ago, Haggerty was not a very good writer. But I think he knows the game, and his comments are usually perceptive. I haven't noticed a great deal of boot licking.

But yesterday, wow, all three of them were a chorus of ass lick for the "Boston Bruins organization" and the sainted "Jacobs family."

I wanted to barf.

In fact, I did.

BTW What was the incident on the board you reference?

I can understand why Haggerty and others in the media prefer not to post here.

They get ripped no matter what.
 
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I realize that many here are not fans.

And at least years ago, Haggerty was not a very good writer. But I think he knows the game, and his comments are usually perceptive. I haven't noticed a great deal of boot licking.

But yesterday, wow, all three of them were a chorus of ass lick for the "Boston Bruins organization" and the sainted "Jacobs family."

I wanted to barf.

In fact, I did.

BTW What was the incident on the board you reference?

I can understand why Haggerty and others in the media prefer not to post here.

They get ripped no matter what.
Nothing really, I went on one of my foolish rants how I was a good evaluator of who is a prospect and who is a suspect once they hit the NHL for a few games.
I believe I also blasted Frank Simonetti a third pairing d, and local from back in the 80s. Next day Haggerty shows up with the screenname Simonetti Fan club
 
I realize that many here are not fans.

And at least years ago, Haggerty was not a very good writer. But I think he knows the game, and his comments are usually perceptive. I haven't noticed a great deal of boot licking.

But yesterday, wow, all three of them were a chorus of ass lick for the "Boston Bruins organization" and the sainted "Jacobs family."

I wanted to barf.

In fact, I did.

BTW What was the incident on the board you reference?

I can understand why Haggerty and others in the media prefer not to post here.

They get ripped no matter what.

Speaking only for myself I loathed the way some of them came across as arrogant, thin skinned & condescending. I won't put up with that from anyone & I'm not sorry they left.
 
Speaking only for myself I loathed the way some of them came across as arrogant, thin skinned & condescending. I won't put up with that from anyone & I'm not sorry they left.
It will surprise you to learn that most in the media are happy to pile on, but when the onus turns to them, the skin is translucent.

Media types are infamously thin-skinned.
 
What information? It's an opinion piece. And the opinion it gives is pretty stock-standard. Some Bruins fans want Sweeney and/or Neely fired, even if young Charlie can't imagine why. Who knew?
Charlie’s “let them eat cake” attitude is extremely off-putting. He is so far out of touch with the fans that he should be ashamed of himself.
 
Charlie’s “let them eat cake” attitude is extremely off-putting. He is so far out of touch with the fans that he should be ashamed of himself.
@Gee Wally Only Bostonians will understand this, but Charlie calls the Mass Pike I-90

Route 128 became I-95 FORTY YEARS AGO, but we still call it 128

Amtrak still calls it 128

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We noticed Tuesday night that not a single fan selected for 'Shirts Off Our Backs' lived in Boston or any of the cities that the Bruins fanbase was spawned from. What Charlie doesn't understand is the generational pull of the Bruins.

When I was a kid, the fanbase was 90% of fans who could take the old MTA or B&M Railroad to North Station. Families moved to the suburbs, but the attachment to the Bruins remained.

Charlie should remember the 2011 parade, which rivaled the 2004 Red Sox - the majority were not wearing brand new 2011 memorabilia but 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s gear.

The Jacobs family legacy in Boston is not that complicated. They gave Harry Sinden the keys for 30 years, and the first time most of us heard Papa Jacobs' voice was when he called Ordway on WEEI after the Thornton trade in 2005. Charlie convinced his father that Harry needed to be retired.

My fear is the Bruins could become the Red Wings as the Atlantic is a brutal division.
 
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@Gee Wally Only Bostonians will understand this, but Charlie calls the Mass Pike I-90

Route 128 became I-95 FORTY YEARS AGO, but we still call it 128

Amtrak still calls it 128

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We noticed Tuesday night that not a single fan selected for 'Shirts Off Our Backs' lived in Boston or any of the cities that the Bruins fanbase was spawned from. What Charlie doesn't understand is the generational pull of the Bruins.


When I was a kid, the fanbase was 90% of fans who could take the old MTA or B&M Railroad to North Station. Families moved to the suburbs, but the attachment to the Bruins remained.

Charlie should remember the 2011 parade, which rivaled the 2004 Red Sox - the majority were not wearing brand new 2011 memorabilia but 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s gear.

The Jacobs family legacy in Boston is not that complicated. They gave Harry Sinden the keys for 30 years, and the first time most of us heard Papa Jacobs' voice was when he called Ordway on WEEI after the Thornton trade in 2005. Charlie convinced his father that Harry needed to be retired.

My fear is the Bruins could become the Red Wings as the Atlantic is a brutal division.
Charlie Jacobs could learn a lot from having dinner with you or even an hour long meeting.

He just doesn’t get it.
 
@Gee Wally Only Bostonians will understand this, but Charlie calls the Mass Pike I-90

Route 128 became I-95 FORTY YEARS AGO, but we still call it 128

Amtrak still calls it 128

View attachment 1017471

We noticed Tuesday night that not a single fan selected for 'Shirts Off Our Backs' lived in Boston or any of the cities that the Bruins fanbase was spawned from. What Charlie doesn't understand is the generational pull of the Bruins.

When I was a kid, the fanbase was 90% of fans who could take the old MTA or B&M Railroad to North Station. Families moved to the suburbs, but the attachment to the Bruins remained.

Charlie should remember the 2011 parade, which rivaled the 2004 Red Sox - the majority were not wearing brand new 2011 memorabilia but 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s gear.

The Jacobs family legacy in Boston is not that complicated. They gave Harry Sinden the keys for 30 years, and the first time most of us heard Papa Jacobs' voice was when he called Ordway on WEEI after the Thornton trade in 2005. Charlie convinced his father that Harry needed to be retired.

My fear is the Bruins could become the Red Wings as the Atlantic is a brutal division.

If the shirt recipients weren't from Boston or surrounds, then where were they from? If they were all from far afield then it sounds potentially like some sort of deliberate attempt, wise or not, to spread the Bruins love to broader locales.
 
If the shirt recipients weren't from Boston or surrounds, then where were they from? If they were all from far afield then it sounds potentially like some sort of deliberate attempt, wise or not, to spread the Bruins love to broader locales.
There were several from Maine, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and New York.

NOTHING inside 128 ( oh excuse me I-95 ). There were a few in the outer ring inside I-495.

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@Gee Wally Only Bostonians will understand this, but Charlie calls the Mass Pike I-90

Route 128 became I-95 FORTY YEARS AGO, but we still call it 128

Amtrak still calls it 128

View attachment 1017471

We noticed Tuesday night that not a single fan selected for 'Shirts Off Our Backs' lived in Boston or any of the cities that the Bruins fanbase was spawned from. What Charlie doesn't understand is the generational pull of the Bruins.

When I was a kid, the fanbase was 90% of fans who could take the old MTA or B&M Railroad to North Station. Families moved to the suburbs, but the attachment to the Bruins remained.

Charlie should remember the 2011 parade, which rivaled the 2004 Red Sox - the majority were not wearing brand new 2011 memorabilia but 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s gear.

The Jacobs family legacy in Boston is not that complicated. They gave Harry Sinden the keys for 30 years, and the first time most of us heard Papa Jacobs' voice was when he called Ordway on WEEI after the Thornton trade in 2005. Charlie convinced his father that Harry needed to be retired.

My fear is the Bruins could become the Red Wings as the Atlantic is a brutal division.
How about at the parade when the old man said with regards to Cam “He brought us a Stanley Cup; something he didn’t do when he was playing.” and the crowd groaned.

Felger lambasted him for it at the time.

It is what it is.

They were a major driving force in the lockout that resulted in a lost season.

They got their salary cap.

Now they spend to the cap.

Their prerogative is butts in seats.

The scoreboard says 1 Cup in 53 seasons, and it took cleaning house and bringing in an outsider to run the thing for that to happen.
 
If the shirt recipients weren't from Boston or surrounds, then where were they from? If they were all from far afield then it sounds potentially like some sort of deliberate attempt, wise or not, to spread the Bruins love to broader locales.
They should pick all kids for this off the back night, they are the future fan base.

I would love to know how many season ticket holders have won over the years, my guess would be not many.
 
How about at the parade when the old man said with regards to Cam “He brought us a Stanley Cup; something he didn’t do when he was playing.” and the crowd groaned.

Felger lambasted him for it at the time.

It is what it is.

They were a major driving force in the lockout that resulted in a lost season.

They got their salary cap.

Now they spend to the cap.

Their prerogative is butts in seats.

The scoreboard says 1 Cup in 53 seasons, and it took cleaning house and bringing in an outsider to run the thing for that to happen.
How the NHL has grown over the years has been tremendous, thinking Jacobs was right about the cap?

Players are making more money than they could have ever dreamed of in Hockey.

Give the guy a little credit, we have been spoiled with this team since the lock out.
 
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Charlie Jacobs could learn a lot from having dinner with you or even an hour long meeting.

He just doesn’t get it.
I don't think Cam understands the fanbase either

Look after a Bruins game, the commuter rail is packed with fans from the North Shore ( Lynn, Salem, Beverly).or the Merrimack Valley (Lowell, Lawrence, Wilmington, and Haverhill). After a Celtics game, the trains are packed with fans from Waltham, Weston, and Concord.

This is a complicated market between the Bruins and Celtics.
 
What information? It's an opinion piece. And the opinion it gives is pretty stock-standard. Some Bruins fans want Sweeney and/or Neely fired, even if young Charlie can't imagine why. Who knew?

My apologies. Should have said got his opinions here, not information.

And yes, they are stock-standard, here.

But the consensus elsewhere is quite different. Watching NHL network, Hockey Night in Canada, National Broadcasts in US and Canada, different team's broadcasts, commentators with a wider view of the game, I don't hear much other than praise for Sweeney and the Bruins organization in general. Certainly not anyone even saying he should be on the hot seat. Firing a GM after one season of missing the playoffs would be a real rarity.
 

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