Prospect Info: #8OA, Marco Kasper

[19 for president]

Yzerman is building his hybrid of TB/ Bos and I'm here for it. Kasper is who I wanted. I'm all about strong 2 way centers. Its how you build a cap compliant team that can last more than a couple of years in the cup hunt.

 

[Perfect Human]

New draft pick Marco Kasper: I want to help Detroit Red Wings win

Detroit Red Wings 2022 first-round pick Marco Kasper, July 7, 2022 in Montreal.

www.freep.com

 

[Pavels Dog]

This is the guy I was targeting in my head for the last couple of months. Just makes so much sense. It's almost like the forward version of the Seider pick.

Really curious to watch his development next season, which hopefully is in the SHL.

 

[ShanahanMan]

I would hope not. He needs to go back to Rogle to learn how to be an offensive producer. I think a big reason Kasper is considered to have questionable offensive upside by some is because his game isn’t focused on that. It’s not so much a matter of not having the skill but not prioritizing being an offensive star. He should spend this next year focusing on the scoring side of his game. He doesn’t need to be working on that in the NHL. It’s too hard when trying to adjust to the NHL pace to begin with.

You should not be picking a forward at 8 who has questionable offensive ability.

 

[Hen Kolland]

That's not necessarily true. The Abbotts let Seider play a first pairing role. They let Wallinder earn top 4 and then later top pair ice. And in the playoffs Marco Kasper went from playing 4th line minutes to playing 14-15 minutes a game. That's an SHL team that allows its younger guys to play if and when they earn it.

Remember that unless a 17-18 year old player is an exceptional talent or on a very weak SHL team they get 4th line minutes and are often put in more defensive roles. We saw this with Raymond in Frolunda and he turned out just fine. We also saw this with Fiala and Nylander in their draft years.

Also consider that we've got Kronwall over there working with our kids directly. I would much rather have Kasper working with Kronwall in practice and off the ice than with Ben Simon.

Yeah you’re right, Berggren really struggled in Simon’s system this year lol. Listen I like what Rogle has been for our prospects, but I’d rather have Kasper stateside. Partly because I do think he’s closer to ready than most. Because I have more control over his development. I want to force reps down his throat. I want him in a more physical league. I want him to learn how to get inside North American defenses.

Just personal preference. I know he’ll get awesome development in Rogle.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Joe Veleno 2.0?

 

[Pavels Dog]

You should not be picking a forward at 8 who has questionable offensive ability.

Highest scoring playoffs of an U18 player in SHL history.

 

[Reddwit]

You should not be picking a forward at 8 who has questionable offensive ability.

Upside, not ability. How are you a hockey fan and don’t know what “upside” means?

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

11points in 46 games sounds gross to me....

Kasper could be our Copp Deluxe

Context:

 

[Al48]

I don’t claim to know anything about the kid. Hope he grows into something great for us, but it’s a bit disheartening hearing everyone say he’ll make an awesome 2nd line center when he’s picked 8th. I’m sure I’ll grow to love the kid regardless

 

[NickH8]

Joe Veleno 2.0?

Joe Veleno's intensity and physicality doesn't hold a candle to Kasper's

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Mo needs someone to Deutsche with...

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Kasper speaks German & Swedish...he's our Missing Link!

 

[RRhoads]

I don’t claim to know anything about the kid. Hope he grows into something great for us, but it’s a bit disheartening hearing everyone say he’ll make an awesome 2nd line center when he’s picked 8th. I’m sure I’ll grow to love the kid regardless

I've heard that been said of Wright as well

 

[jkutswings]

You should not be picking a forward at 8 who has questionable offensive ability.

The current front office seems to have found a niche, making good reads on guys with smaller sample sizes who scare off other teams. Let's hope that streak continues.

 

[ShanahanMan]

Upside, not ability. How are you a hockey fan and don’t know what “upside” means?

Fair comeback, I read that has ability.

 

[jkutswings]

Kasper speaks German & Swedish...he's our Missing Link!

But does he speak Swenglish like Holmstrom did?

 

[jfrank21]

I don’t claim to know anything about the kid. Hope he grows into something great for us, but it’s a bit disheartening hearing everyone say he’ll make an awesome 2nd line center when he’s picked 8th. I’m sure I’ll grow to love the kid regardless

It's not just that he's a 2nd line center...people are saying Shane Wright might just be a 2nd line center. It's going to be that he brings a style of play and tenacity that gets your team wins. He is going to be "our" 2nd line center and is going to chip in 50-60 points while being a pain in the ass to play against. He will be a fan favorite in absolutely no time, call me Johnny Bench.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I'll start compiling the articles about Kasper here.

How taking Marco Kasper at No. 8 could help the Red Wings - The Athletic


Here's the combine results. Kasper scored very well in most categories.
https://link.nhl.com/centralscoutin...44.476671850.1654342133-1271837132.1615511856

A snip from the eliteprospects draft guide.

EP Rinkside's breakdown.
https://eprinkside.com/2022/06/20/film-room-marco-kasper-is-a-menace?utm_source=eliteprospects&utm_medium=news-list&utm_campaign=player

This article does a breakdown of his game.
https://mentalversatility.com/a-conversation-with-marco-kasper-who-is-already-very-close-to-being-an-nhler/

 

[Tetsuo]

Damn Kasper really is getting the low upside label. We practically sprinted up to the podium to get him... should say all that needs to be said.

Love the physicality and ability to play in all three zones. He had a lowered point total because he played in the SHL, which is a much stiffer level of competition. Give the kid a year and he might make some noise for us sooner than later.

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

Had to change the name.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Had to change the name.

Yeah it’s a good one and probably should have retired this one before you stepped in

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

It's not just that he's a 2nd line center...people are saying Shane Wright might just be a 2nd line center. It's going to be that he brings a style of play and tenacity that gets your team wins. He is going to be "our" 2nd line center and is going to chip in 50-60 points while being a pain in the ass to play against. He will be a fan favorite in absolutely no time, call me Johnny Bench.

The fans bitching about Kasper are the fans that would have bitched about Detroit picking Lundell. That's the kind of center prospect we're getting. Solid, two way play that will make the lives of his wingers easier.

 

[DoMakc]

Kasper was ranked 7th by Black Book. They had his competitiveness rated at 9/9, skating and hockey sense at 8/9

 

[Tetsuo]

The fans bitching about Kasper are the fans that would have bitched about Detroit picking Lundell. That's the kind of center prospect we're getting. Solid, two way play that will make the lives of his wingers easier.

The likes of Soderblom and Berggren will really appreciate him.

 

[Steve Yzerlland]

Joe Veleno's intensity and physicality doesn't hold a candle to Kasper's

No one was saying this in 2018. Draft night promise has everyone blind. I hope he works out but it looks like better C's were available.