spiny norman
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Sidney Crosby gets assist #1,034 to set a new Penguins franchise record.
No chance of rescinding this one.
No chance of rescinding this one.
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#87 Sidney Crosby Milestone Thread - History will be made (MOST FACEOFFS WON IN NHL HISTORY 2025-01-07))
- Thread starter Dessloch
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Greatzsky 99
Registered User
Yes! Great. Crosbys 87 should be retired in all sports over the world, let start a movement with that goal 
Beau Knows
Registered User
Much nicer assist than the one that was rescinded last night, and it's at home. Kind of nice that it worked out that way.
Zirakzigil
The Global Hangman wishes he could be
Wasn’t a secondary assist. Doesn’t count 
tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
Beating Mario in anything is a huge accomplishment.
Greatzsky 99
Registered User
Sid now 12th all time in assists
If he could get(knock on wood) 30 more this season
He would pass Dionne, Howe and Yzerman for 9th all time.
6 up to Dionne 15 to Howe and 29 to Yzerman.
God i love numbers and statistics
Will he do it?
If he could get(knock on wood) 30 more this season
He would pass Dionne, Howe and Yzerman for 9th all time.
6 up to Dionne 15 to Howe and 29 to Yzerman.
God i love numbers and statistics
Will he do it?
TheGuiminator
I’ll be damned King, I’ll be damned
As many assists as McDavid has points.
Wow
Wow
wetcoast
Registered User
Ya McDavid is killing it at 37 too already close the thread eh?
Video Nasty
Registered User
Having a ten year head start and leads as small as 350 assists and 600 points is far from impressive. As with every other milestone, McDavid will clear him 100-200 games quicker as time marches on.
orby
Registered User
At this point, I think the last major statistical milestones for Crosby to reach will be breaking into the top 10 all time in assists and top 5 all time in points. Barring disaster, he will get to assist #1050 this season to reach the top 10. However, he needs just about 1800 total points to break into the top 5 all time. He's got about two and a half seasons left - can he do it?
I don't see Sid scoring enough goals to get to 700 in his career or surpass Lemieux in that category, though I do think he will surpass Mario in total points.
I don't see Sid scoring enough goals to get to 700 in his career or surpass Lemieux in that category, though I do think he will surpass Mario in total points.
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Beljavskij
Registered User
Or McD breaks his leg next game and retires without scoring another point Who knows?
Btw, did Crosby flirt with your wife or something? Or why such an obsessive need to knock everything Sid does down?
Nfumass
Registered User
Easy to do when your prime is in the softest era of hockey ever and you don’t have to worry about being touched.
Hockey Outsider
Registered User
I think there are four major statistical milestones that Crosby has a realistic chance of attaining:
Most assists for a single franchise
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Ray Bourque[/TD]
[TD]1,111[/TD]
[TD]Bruins[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Wayne Gretzky[/TD]
[TD]1,086[/TD]
[TD]Oilers[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Steve Yzerman[/TD]
[TD]1,063[/TD]
[TD]Red Wings[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Sidney Crosby[/TD]
[TD]1,034[/TD]
[TD]Penguins[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Mario Lemieux[/TD]
[TD]1,033[/TD]
[TD]Penguins[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Gordie Howe[/TD]
[TD]1,023[/TD]
[TD]Red Wings[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Joe Sakic[/TD]
[TD]1,016[/TD]
[TD]Avalanche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Stan Mikita[/TD]
[TD]926[/TD]
[TD]Blackhawks[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Nicklas Lidstrom[/TD]
[TD]878[/TD]
[TD]Red Wings[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Bryan Trottier[/TD]
[TD]853[/TD]
[TD]Islanders[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Crosby is 77 assists from tying the all-time record. It's possible he could get there late in the 2025-26 season.
Most points for a single franchise
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[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
[TD]Gordie Howe[/TD]
[TD]1,809[/TD]
[TD]Red Wings[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD]Steve Yzerman[/TD]
[TD]1,755[/TD]
[TD]Red Wings[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Mario Lemieux[/TD]
[TD]1,723[/TD]
[TD]Penguins[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]4[/TD]
[TD]Wayne Gretzky[/TD]
[TD]1,669[/TD]
[TD]Oilers[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]5[/TD]
[TD]Joe Sakic[/TD]
[TD]1,641[/TD]
[TD]Avalanche[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]6[/TD]
[TD]Sidney Crosby[/TD]
[TD]1,636[/TD]
[TD]Penguins[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Alex Ovechkin[/TD]
[TD]1,577[/TD]
[TD]Capitals[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]8[/TD]
[TD]Ray Bourque[/TD]
[TD]1,506[/TD]
[TD]Bruins[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]9[/TD]
[TD]Stan Mikita[/TD]
[TD]1,467[/TD]
[TD]Blackhawks[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]10[/TD]
[TD]Mike Modano[/TD]
[TD]1,374[/TD]
[TD]Stars[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Barring a significant injury, Crosby will surpass Sakic and Gretzky this season. He's 173 points away from tying Mr. Hockey for the all-time record. He could get there during the 2026-27 season (assuming he doesn't leave the Pens or suffers a serious injury).
Most primary points
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[TR]
[TD]
1
[/TD][TD]Wayne Gretzky[/TD]
[TD]2,218[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
2
[/TD][TD]Gordie Howe[/TD]
[TD]1,547[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
3
[/TD][TD]Jaromir Jagr[/TD]
[TD]1,450[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
4
[/TD][TD]Mark Messier[/TD]
[TD]1,445[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
5
[/TD][TD]Marcel Dionne[/TD]
[TD]1,393[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
6
[/TD][TD]Ron Francis[/TD]
[TD]1,346[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
7
[/TD][TD]Mario Lemieux[/TD]
[TD]1,344[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
8
[/TD][TD]Steve Yzerman[/TD]
[TD]1,342[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
9
[/TD][TD]Alex Ovechkin[/TD]
[TD]1,301[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
10
[/TD][TD]Phil Esposito[/TD]
[TD]1,273[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
11
[/TD][TD]Sidney Crosby[/TD]
[TD]1,241[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
12
[/TD][TD]Joe Sakic[/TD]
[TD]1,202[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
Crosby is currently 11th all-time with 1,241 primary points (goals plus primary assists). At some point next year, he'll likely become only the 10th player in NHL history to reach 1,300 primary points. It's conceivable he could end up as high as 4th place (but it also depends on how Ovechkin does - he's currently ahead by 60).
Most even-strength points
[TABLE=collapse]
[TR]
[TD]
1
[/TD][TD]Wayne Gretzky[/TD]
[TD]1,818[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
2
[/TD][TD]Jaromir Jagr[/TD]
[TD]1,296[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
3
[/TD][TD]Gordie Howe[/TD]
[TD]1,250[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
4
[/TD][TD]Mark Messier[/TD]
[TD]1,162[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
5
[/TD][TD]Marcel Dionne[/TD]
[TD]1,098[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
6
[/TD][TD]Steve Yzerman[/TD]
[TD]1,077[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
7
[/TD][TD]Sidney Crosby[/TD]
[TD]1,053[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
8
[/TD][TD]Ron Francis[/TD]
[TD]1,040[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
9
[/TD][TD]Phil Esposito[/TD]
[TD]1,006[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
10
[/TD][TD]Stan Mikita[/TD]
[TD]
987
[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]
I don't think that people realize how strong Crosby's offensive production has been. He's already 7th (and would jump ahead of Messier, Dionne and Yzerman with any reasonable adjustment for the scoring environment). He'll almost certainly reach 1,100 ES points, which would rank 5th all-time.
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Luigi Lemieux
Registered User
It's a soft offensive era. And McDavid is great, too bad he's stuck on an incompetent franchise. Btw your obsession with Crosby is truly bizarre.
spiny norman
Administrator
With his 4th faceoff win tonight, Sidney Crosby surpasses Patrice Bergeron to become the all-time leader in career faceoff wins with 15,183 since they were tracked starting in 1997-98.
He was already #1 in total faceoffs and faceoff losses.
He was already #1 in total faceoffs and faceoff losses.
Gunnersaurus Rex
Registered User
Why spoil that he also has lost most faceoffs spiny norman?
Also holds the record for most faceoff losses....
Dessloch
DOPS keeping NHL players unsafe like its their job
Why spoil that he also has lost most faceoffs spiny norman?
Sid circa 2007: "I think I'm gonna work on faceoffs..."
Dessloch
DOPS keeping NHL players unsafe like its their job
Yeah, we should have his faceoff percentage compared to after he said that in a fancy graph
1989
Registered User
That's some Luigi/Bowser mentality if I've ever seen it.
tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
Do I even want to know how that applies to this scenario?
Rodgerwilco
Entertainment boards w/ some Hockey mixed in.
two insane (secondary) assists by Sid so far tonight. This is why stat watchers have no business discussing Crosby.
You could easily look at the stat sheet and say “well they’re both secondary assists, did he even affect the play?”
When anyone actually watching can see the top-tier plays he’s making. He’ll end this game no lower than 46 points in 43 games, and it’s only the 1st.
You could easily look at the stat sheet and say “well they’re both secondary assists, did he even affect the play?”
When anyone actually watching can see the top-tier plays he’s making. He’ll end this game no lower than 46 points in 43 games, and it’s only the 1st.
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