#87 Sidney Crosby Milestone Thread - History will be made (600 goals, 1600 points)

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So many things about this are astonishing. 1 assist on a Mario goal, 1 on a Hossa goal, and all of 5 on Zucker's goals. Some of these numbers seem crazy low, given the caliber and/or length of time with Crosby. Like Zucker had 50 goals as a Penguin, total. It goes to show how obsessed the coach was with "Guentzel/Crosby/Rust" that Crosby was involved in only 10% of those.

Meanwhile long LONG forgotten ghosts of the past like Noah Welch (2), Tarnstrom (2), Chris Connor (2), Melichar (2), Nils Ekman (3), and Tomas Surovy (6?!!) are on here. Holy smokes. Not just X-gen penguins, but later guys like Michael Rupp, Steve Sullivan and Downie. And king of all the Crosby beneficiaries is Colby Armstrong, no surprise there.

This list belongs in one of those "things that shouldnt be true about hockey but are" threads. If you said Sidney Crosby contributed to more goals for MIchel Ouellet, than he did for John LeClair, Marian Hossa, Ziggy Palffy, and Mario Lemieux COMBINED, you'd be called a liar

 

[Zirakzigil]

John LeClair, Marian Hossa, Ziggy Palffy,

Kinda crazy he played with those guys though, all things considered.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

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Martin Skoula was on the penguins? I've watched Sid's whole career and for the life of me can't remember this.

 

[SomeDude]

Martin Skoula was on the penguins? I've watched Sid's whole career and for the life of me can't remember this.

The most memorable thing about Skoula was Shero throwing him in the Ponikarovsky deal for free after rejecting NJ giving a 5th round pick for him. Only for Toronto to flip him the next day to NJ for said pick.

Imagine being afraid to trade Martin Skoula within your division.

 

[red devil]

 

[blankall]

The guy can probably play another 5 years and reach top 5 in points, he only needs just a little over 200 more. So 90 points next season, 80 points, 75 points and maybe a few 60 probably doable. If he wasn't hurt he probably finishes 2nd all time.

He just passed into the top 10. I'd say he's a lock, barring a major injury, for top 5. He needs another 330 to make 2nd overall. There's still a chance at that, as his game is translating well as he ages. He could play into his early 40s.

 

[Kranix]

Look at all those wingers in there that Sid apparently liked playing with, that he only manufactured 2-3 goals total from.

 

[66-30-33]

He just passed into the top 10. I'd say he's a lock, barring a major injury, for top 5. He needs another 330 to make 2nd overall. There's still a chance at that, as his game is translating well as he ages. He could play into his early 40s.

Not bad for someone not quite as good as Prucha.

 

[Dominance]

He just passed into the top 10. I'd say he's a lock, barring a major injury, for top 5. He needs another 330 to make 2nd overall. There's still a chance at that, as his game is translating well as he ages. He could play into his early 40s.

Hovering around 80 points a season until his age 41 season gets him there. His game does not rely on speed, which makes it more realistic. I just don’t think it has much of a chance of happening in Pittsburgh - the team will be truly horrid as of next year, and having no shot at the playoffs will take a mental toll on his intensity and willingness to play it out. I desperately hope he will be traded to a contender with a functional powerplay, even as I know it will never happen.

 

[blankall]

Hovering around 80 points a season until his age 41 season gets him there. His game does not rely on speed, which makes it more realistic. I just don’t think it has much of a chance of happening in Pittsburgh - the team will be truly horrid as of next year, and having no shot at the playoffs will take a mental toll on his intensity and willingness to play it out. I desperately hope he will be traded to a contender with a functional powerplay, even as I know it will never happen.

Crosby seems to thrive when he is the main attraction. He's always played with non-star linemates, and usually plays with guys who would be tweeners on most teams. Guentzel might be more the exception to the rule.

 

[66871]

Not bad for someone not quite as good as Prucha.

I see someone else here loves the classics.

 

[66-30-33]

I see someone else here loves the classics.

Somethings you'll never forget.

Like Ryder, Halak and a 2nd.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

You can't talk about HFBoards classics without Martin Skoula > Nicklas Lidstrom (due to puck poise).

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

It legit makes me sad that Sid could have had another/one last 100+ point season this year if coaching and 85% of the Pens team wasn’t such hot, passenger-filled, garbage…

 

[orby]

It legit makes me sad that Sid could have had another/one last 100+ point season this year if coaching and 85% of the Pens team wasn’t such hot, passenger-filled, garbage…

He's still got 3 games left and he's motivated. The odds are against him, but don't rule it out...

 

[lokomotiv15]

He's still got 3 games left and he's motivated. The odds are against him, but don't rule it out...

What was that one 3 game spurt he had a few weeks ago? 9 in 3 and 13 in 5?

It could be in there, as low a probability as there is.

 

[Dessloch]

 

[Dessloch]

 

[dalewood12]

Solid company, with two games left.

 

[Mr Buckles]

You'd think he's got at least another 200 points in him.

 

[PensPlz]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sidney Crosby just tied Teemu Salanne's record for most points by a 36 year old with 94 points.

 

[WalterLundy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sidney Crosby just tied Teemu Salanne's record for most points by a 36 year old with 94 points.

Gretzky had 97 points at age 36 in 1997 but not sure if that’s the best one

 

[jigglysquishy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Sidney Crosby just tied Teemu Salanne's record for most points by a 36 year old with 94 points.

And Jean Retalle.

 

[PensPlz]

Gretzky had 97 points at age 36 in 1997 but not sure if that’s the best one

He entered the season at 35 and was 35 for most of those points in the 96-97 seasons. Salanne and Crosby entered as 36 and were 36 for all of theirs. I guess it depends on how you want to state the record.

 

[jigglysquishy]

He was 35 for most of those points in the 96-97 seasons. Salanne and Crosby was 36 for all of theirs. I guess it depends on how you want to say the record.

Age at end or beginning of season is the most reasonable.

Gretzky finishing 4th in the NHL in points at age 36 is just ridiculous.