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You can just sense the confidence in this guy.
The question now becomes what do you do with Soogard?
The question now becomes what do you do with Soogard?
Prospect Info: 71st Overall Leevi Merilainen G, Fin, Karpat Jr
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Micklebot
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Not really much of a question, Sogaard continues to develop in the AHL until he either gets picked up off waivers at the start of a season, or becomes a viable player.
Forsberg is the guy we got to figure out what to do with, when Ullmark is back, who gets sent down, personally I'd waive Forsberg, but I don't think the team has lost confidence in him the way I have.
Tuna99
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Why waive him? You need 3 goalies to make the playoffs these days, let’s keep our good players. Hamonic included. Depth players make your team and Ottawa season has had huge games from by
The depth guys - Gaudette, Forsberg, Hamonic, Nerilinen, Kleven
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Forsberg has been pretty bad, .286 quality start %, 4-8-1 record, that's not helping us make the playoffs and no team keeps three goalies up.
There's a argument to send Levi down and let Forsberg ride the bench, we could even call Levi up for the back to backs, but I have zero confidence in Forsberg in our net, getting him off the team makes us better right now.
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I dunno man. Starting a rookie over a nhl vet on a back to back , that sends a message. Forsberg sees the writing on the wall
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If Levi wasn't coming off a shutout, I'd agree, but I think the shutout changes the dynamics a bit. Forsberg likely still sees the writing on the wall wrt next season, but I could see them still being ok with Forsberg as a backup that rarely plays.
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with how bad Ullmark’s injuries have been this season I think you keep him around because Sogaard is not an answer so Forsy is still a top 3 goalie. I’d start Leevi over him all day but I’d also keep him around in case Ullmark’s back gets bent
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Forsberg in net loses us games, there's no real value in keeping him,
Sun God Nika
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I guess we are seeing what the euro scouts saw.
that 2020 draft is one for the ages hopefully they get us into the playoffs soon otherwise it wont mean shit.
No, you have to take inflation into account. It's So9aard now.
They are probably friends however I'm sure Ullmark gets it if we need to move on. He will care most about winning.
Forsberg didn't play the next game after a shutout both times he had them this year.
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Sure, but the alternative option was a vezina winner who we just gave an 8 mil dollar extension to. That context makes a big difference when deciding who to start. If Forsberg had his shutouts when Ullmark was hurt, odds are much better they consider him for the back to back.
I'm not saying they think Forsberg is a great backup, they almost certainly believe that he's struggling this year, I I suspect this is his last year with the team, but just like when Ullmark started the year off struggling, I think they probably still believe he's better than he's shown.
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Can we not trade Merilainen away please. I don’t want to see him lighting it up on another team in 3 years!
Good games Levi. You have the backup job (I hope)
Good games Levi. You have the backup job (I hope)
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Leevi definitely gives this team some hope that Forsberg appears incapable of doing. The team plays like they believe he can have their backs.
I don't know if they'll waive Forsberg right away, I kind of doubt it with Ullmark's health issues, but Forsberg's only really hurt the teams chances for the most part this year, so it doesn't really matter who they put in there at this point imo.
I don't know if they'll waive Forsberg right away, I kind of doubt it with Ullmark's health issues, but Forsberg's only really hurt the teams chances for the most part this year, so it doesn't really matter who they put in there at this point imo.
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I expect that when Ullmark returns that they will send Merilainen back to Belleville, but I also expect or hope that Forsberg would be on a short leash. Unless someone comes along that needs a goalie badly with no replacement in their org I think we are stuck with Forsberg until the end of the season & his contract ending. Waiving Forsberg this season could be an option if he doesn't soon prove he can win games at the NHL level.
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I agree. I don't think he'll be kicked to the curb, but yesterday with Leevi getting back to back starts, it gave me hope the leash is very short with Forsberg.
Merilainen was great, but I'm scared that the expressing any joy will result in the hockey gods injuring him too.
Hope the team continues to play more confidently when he's in net and doesn't leave him hanging out to dry on days where he's not on his best.
Hope the team continues to play more confidently when he's in net and doesn't leave him hanging out to dry on days where he's not on his best.
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I like to see Finnish prospects succeed. Happy to see its on a team that hasn't had that many Finns. 
Why waive him? We can't afford to simply lost games because our goalie simply isn't good enough to win games. We have 40 games left. If Ullmark gets healthy, how many do you see him playing as Ullmark's back up? Give it 5 games and ullmark is good to go. That leaves 35. Maybe he starts 14? 6 or 7 of those are guaranteed losses based on how he has played since his double knee injuries. That's simply not good enough.
What are the odds he gets picked up if he's waived? I think a lot of teams would consider their 3rd and 4th goalies before picking up Forsberg.
There was probably a feeling for years that it was ottawa's defense but we've got two guys at .913 and .915 and 10.6 gsaa and one guy at .88e and -6.3 gsaa.
I was at that Buffalo game the other day and was truly awful. I hope to never see him play live again
There was probably a feeling for years that it was ottawa's defense but we've got two guys at .913 and .915 and 10.6 gsaa and one guy at .88e and -6.3 gsaa.
I was at that Buffalo game the other day and was truly awful. I hope to never see him play live again
