I only see Guhle getting better at everything...
He is already our best decision maker on the back end.
He is already our best decision maker on the back end.
You can't say that, you'll be labeled as a hater. Guhle to me seems like a Hampus Lindholm type player which is still a great player to have.He doesn’t have the upside of a number 1 either imo.
Guhle's toast, she's not even blond. Disappointed to say the least...
You just wait when Boucher makes the team!Now Habs inject Hutson, Mailloux, Reinbacher, Demidov, and possibly another top 6 F via trade in the next 2 years. You make it seem like they're the sens and don't have a really good pipeline
Nods at The Prisoner reference. Kudos.Excellent reply ! Keep on being contrarian when the unanimous narrive is going one way. We need more pple like you on this site and in society.
You're not a number, you're a free man !
But are you aware he’s the only player in the league that gets body checked regularly?I only see Guhle getting better at everything...
He is already our best decision maker on the back end.
I think Anderson can still bounce back to being a 20 goalscorer like how he has been for most of his career even if he's heavily flawed, it's not like his athleticism declined. Retaining 50% on him would put him at the same cap hit as a guy like Miles Wood who I believe is comparable. Gallagher on the other hand is cooked and will need a buyout.
I will be extremely disappointed in Hughes if he doesn't address these two next year, the roster spots they take up are more harmful than the cap hit. Being a bad team that gets 3 top 5 picks in a row and selling off vets is probably the easiest part of team building. The only thing that matters is how you build the team and add to these top picks. If he acts stingy by not wanting to buyout/retain Gally and Anderson when the team should be looking to be making a massive push, then it's a massive failure.
Finally, something we can both agree on. HahaProblem is we had a GM that had these nice contracts and a 3rd overall pick and couldn’t manage to build anything remotely resembling a contender. Heck forget contender, he couldn’t even build a team that was simply fun to watch. Even the 2023-24 Canadiens provided more on-ice excitement than those Bergevin teams.
There's little reason to doubt that Hughes can't attract some good UFA when the time is right.
Unlike our previous regime, Hughes is establishing a winning culture and making Montreal a fun place to play. There's a buzz around the organization and other players are noticing.
We won't need to blame it on taxes to defend this management group. At the very least they should be able to attract some decent players like Gainey was able to do.
Lindell has also been available over his 8 nhl seasons. Only 17 games missed in 8 full nhl seasons.He's already better than Lindell, it's insulting, yes. Lindell produced 5 more 5v5 points in 60 more games as an obvious veteran playing on a powerhouse offensive team. He's also not physical, Guhle has played harder minutes on his off-side and is obviously better defensively.
And yes Esa Lindell is a good player.
At what point do we start questioning if Hughes is too good for this team.
Let’s start winning before rewarding him GM medalsAt what point do we start questioning if Hughes is too good for this team.
This is the first year in five that Moore outproduces Suzuki. Sample size matters. Guhle has had great 5v5 production in two of two years on a bad team while playing the like 5th toughest minutes in the league, on his off-side.To those of you obsessing over 5 on 5 production, would you say that Trevor Moore and Connor Garland are better than Nick Suzuki since they outscored him 5 on 5? There's nothing wrong with saying that Guhle likely won't do much offensively, I expect him to be behind Hutson/Mailloux/Reinbacher when it comes to playing on the PP.
Hampus Lindholm was a legit top D in his prime. Guhle is already around what he is at this point.You can't say that, you'll be labeled as a hater. Guhle to me seems like a Hampus Lindholm type player which is still a great player to have.
I was talking about this year. No swing and a miss, was Trevor Moore better than Nick Suzuki this year because 5v5 points is all that matters according to you? Moreover, David Savard should be on the PP ahead of either Matheson/Guhle according to your logic.This is the first year in five that Moore outproduces Suzuki. Sample size matters. Guhle has had great 5v5 production in two of two years on a bad team while playing the like 5th toughest minutes in the league, on his off-side.
Swing and a miss.
He's not someone you win a cup with as a #1 dman.Hampus Lindholm was a legit top D in his prime. Guhle is already around what he is at this point.
If Trevor moore does it on a regular basis he will obviously be seen in a similar light/better. Also would be curious to look at both players situation and context. Can't say I'm familiar with the Kings much.I was talking about this year. No swing and a miss, was Trevor Moore better than Nick Suzuki this year because 5v5 points is all that matters according to you? Moreover, David Savard should be on the PP ahead of either Matheson/Guhle according to your logic.
He's not someone you win a cup with as a #1 dman.
Let’s start winning before rewarding him GM medals
Surely you're joking right?If Trevor moore does it on a regular basis he will obviously be seen in a similar light/better.
Yes they are the anomaly with probably the best defensive structure in the cap era.The Panthers just won the cup with Ekblad/Forsling as their 1D.
If we have two generational talents up front then yes we can live with Guhle as the #1 dman.Pittsburgh did it with Dumoulin.
With Cam Ward playing like a possessed man.Carolina did it with Kaberle/Commodore.
If we have two generational talents up front then yes we can live with Guhle as the #1 dman.
Surely you're joking right?
Yes they are the anomaly with probably the best defensive structure in the cap era.
If we have two generational talents up front then yes we can live with Guhle as the #1 dman.
With Cam Ward playing like a possessed man.
If you think I'm just making excuses, your logic should say that Ben Chiarot can also be a #1 dman on a Stanley Cup finalist given how he played the most out of all our dmen during our run.
Better yet, why not explain how the Ducks, Wings, Pens x2 (with Letang), Hawks x3, Bruins, Kings x2, Caps, Blues, Bolts x2, Avs, and Knights also won the cup in that time span with elite star dmen instead of cherry picking 3 anomalies?
You're arguing alone and creating fake arguments.Surely you're joking right?
Yes they are the anomaly with probably the best defensive structure in the cap era.
If we have two generational talents up front then yes we can live with Guhle as the #1 dman.
With Cam Ward playing like a possessed man.
If you think I'm just making excuses, your logic should say that Ben Chiarot can also be a #1 dman on a Stanley Cup finalist given how he played the most out of all our dmen during our run.
Better yet, why not explain how the Ducks, Wings, Pens x2 (with Letang), Hawks x3, Bruins, Kings x2, Caps, Blues, Bolts x2, Avs, and Knights also won the cup in that time span with elite star dmen instead of cherry picking 3 anomalies?
You absolutely cannot say that as of right now, he could be asking for a lot more than ends up costing more than what we "saved", especially at the age of 29 where he will have a more expensive follow up contract than 31. If Guhle ends up becoming a #1 dman on a cup contender, he's going to be asking for significantly more than the Sanderson-type contract, especially with a rising cap. Your point is heavily flawed, you can't predict the future.
What excuse? IF Guhle does end up being a #1 dman on a cup contender, Kent will be happy but would also regret not giving him an 8 year deal when he can easily ask for 10+million when he's 29 at the end of this deal. Seems like you're arguing about something completely irrelevant to what I'm talking about.
Which is why Hughes refused to give him that type of contract and doesn't see him as a #1 dman on a cup contender. You're proving my point by saying he doesn't have that type of potential based on what he's shown so far. So you, me, and Hughes don't see that kind of potential. Doesn't mean he won't overcome that potential. That's all I'm saying.
It's absolutely relevant, it completely undermines your "point".
Which is why I said those guys you initially listed were bad examples. As if the Avs/Bruins knew their respective players would end up being top 10 players in the league lol. I never said Guhle can't/won't surpass his contract, but it's very obvious that Hughes would have held out for 8 years for longer if he saw Guhle as that type of top line player on a cup contender.
Nobody expected him to be the player he is right now when he signed that contract, stop lying.