Proposal: 6 player boston/st louis deal

[Alberta_OReilly_Fan]

i hope both teams needs are getting met here and that the cap situation is respected. there could be some no trade clauses to workaround but i assume that can be worked out

the names involved

jay bouwmeister signed 3×5.4
kevin shattenkirk signed 1× 4.25
patrick berglund 1x3.7

for
david krecji signed 5x7.25
torey krug 4x5.25
joe morrow 1x.8
2nd round pick from edmonton

my logic... shattenkirk seams to want more than krug and as a rhs will soon be replaced on the depth chart. picking up krug replaces the pp production. i humbly suggest krecji is a better player than bouwmeister but that balances out due to contract and team needs

as for my bruins... our obvious weakness is top 4 dmen. shattenkirk has been a rumored target for awhile now. bouwmeister is the type of guy who would be a great mentor for brandon carlo imo.

berglund is really just to balance the caphit... morrow is kind of a throw in to give st louis a warm body. i wouldnt be shocked if both were on new teams next year

so looking forward this is mostly krecji and krug for shattenkirk and bouwmeister

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[wintersej]

Krejci probably won't waive his NMC and JayBo is very much in the downside. Still a good player, but the contract isn't good.

 

[Leafs87]

Why not just simplify it to shattenkirk for krejci

 

[axecrew]

Realistically who replaces the 2 defenseman the blues lose from their every day line up?

 

[Bluesnatic27]

I don't think Boston touches this deal.

Plus, we don't really have an internal replacement for Bouwmeester as of yet. Guys like Dunn and Walman are going to take at least a year before they're ready for the NHL.

 

[Pia8988]

Would pass from the Bruins perspective. Both Krejci and Krug beat their timetables back and Bruins fans are down on them for not being 100%.

 

[riverhawkey91]

Yeah I don't understand this from Boston's perspective.

Krejci has much more value than 1 year of Shattenkirk (we all agree that signed is about equal, but he's not signed.) At the absolute best for Bouwmeester, him and Krug are equal...realistically, Krug is more valuable given his age if you offset Krug's better offense with J-bo's better defense. As you said, Berglund would be essentially a cap balance.

The 2nd + prospect is definitely on the wrong side there.

 

[Absurdity]

i hope both teams needs are getting met here and that the cap situation is respected. there could be some no trade clauses to workaround but i assume that can be worked out

the names involved

jay bouwmeister signed 3×5.4
kevin shattenkirk signed 1× 4.25
patrick berglund 1x3.7

for
david krecji signed 5x7.25
torey krug 4x5.25
joe morrow 1x.8
2nd round pick from edmonton

my logic... shattenkirk seams to want more than krug and as a rhs will soon be replaced on the depth chart. picking up krug replaces the pp production. i humbly suggest krecji is a better player than bouwmeister but that balances out due to contract and team needs

as for my bruins... our obvious weakness is top 4 dmen. shattenkirk has been a rumored target for awhile now. bouwmeister is the type of guy who would be a great mentor for brandon carlo imo.

berglund is really just to balance the caphit... morrow is kind of a throw in to give st louis a warm body. i wouldnt be shocked if both were on new teams next year

so looking forward this is mostly krecji and krug for shattenkirk and bouwmeister

The bold is the reason why the Bruins don't do the deal. Also, Krug isn't going to get traded after the Bruins just signed him for 4 years.

 

[reffree]

Would pass from the Bruins perspective. Both Krejci and Krug beat their timetables back and Bruins fans are down on them for not being 100%.

You resume it all nicely. Fans are sad sometimes.

 

[Halla]

when shattenkirks bolts this ends up being boumeester and berglund for krug,krejci,morrow and a 2nd?

yeah thats not gonna happen.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Long-term it doesn't really help us that much salary wise, and potentially handcuffed with Krejci. We have to ensure long-term cap flexibility for Parayko and Fabbri.

 

[JRull86]

This is simply trying too hard.

Neither team touches this deal.

 

[Skobel24]

Krejci probably won't waive his NMC and JayBo is very much in the downside. Still a good player, but the contract isn't good.

I really disagree here. Bowumeester is still a serviceable top pairing dman. At 5.4m, he's arguably a steal.

 

[Glove Malfunction]

I think the Bruins politely decline. Like Hazi said, Krug isn't going anywhere after the Bs just extended him. And certainly not in a Shattenkirk deal where he's not extended. I see what OP is trying to do, by bringing in two NHL Dmen, for one and a 7th D, to shore up Boston's blueline, but I don't think it's a deal the Bruins do.

 

[WonderTwinsUnite]

I think STL needs more than Morrow to make the deal. Maybe downgrade the pick and make Morrow Miller?

 

[bleedblue1223]

I think STL needs more than Morrow to make the deal. Maybe downgrade the pick and make Morrow Miller?

We don't really need either, we have Lindbohm who we can call up.

 

[Captain Creampuff]

Seems like a bad deal for both teams

 

[WonderTwinsUnite]

Seems like a bad deal for both teams

I disagree, I kinda like it if you swap Morrow and Miller and make the pick lower.

Krejci doesn't entice you guys? Krug?

 

[Dbrownss]

I forgot Krug had that contract. As pointless as Boumeester is in the offensive zone. He's still an excellent shutdown dman, i wouldnt want to give him up and replace him with Krug. Im not Krejci's biggest fan but I would fully support an extended Shattenkirk for Krecji trade.

 

[SirPaste]

I think both teams pass on this deal, Blues can't afford to lose JBow and Shatty this year

 

[axecrew]

We don't really need either, we have Lindbohm who we can call up.

If Lindbohm were ready he would already be there.

 

[bleedblue1223]

If Lindbohm were ready he would already be there.

No, we have 7 guys we like ahead of him and he needs minutes. It was said he was only sent down because of the numbers game. You can't carry 8 dmen.

 

[Evocable Manager]

I've had my ups and downs about Krejci. Great player, but he is 30 and signed for good term and a thick cap hit. Will he be worth the 7.25M in 3-4 years? He doesn't rely a ton of speed or physicality, uses his hockey sense mostly so I'd like to think he could at least be salvageable.

I do think the saved money from Krejci allows Boston to resign Shattenkirk and I think he'd resign there.

What I don't like about this is the Krug/Bouwmeester swap. I like Krug and he is much better in the offensive zone than Bouwmeester but Bouwmeester is still a fine defensive defenseman and that's more of a need. I'd take this part of the deal out.

We don't need Morrow, both Lindbohm and/or Schmaltz could fill Shattenkirk shoes. At least from a roster spot standpoint but maybe a little different role.

What complicates the deal is the Berglund part. I don't think the organization will deal Berglund and for good reason. He is a strong two way player, who plays with a lot of structure. Also, I don't think we could afford to take Krejci, unless Lehtera is moved. With Fabbri and Parayko due for significant raises, we need cap space to keep them around. Apparently Boston was willing to take him last deadline, but the deal fell through. I'm not sure how the fans like that, but Lehtera isn't a bad 3C.

Also, Krejci has a NMC and starting a family. Doubt he waives.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

I think it's too many pieces. Really don't like giving up Bouw and Shatty.

I think what works best is allowing Boston to work out a deal with Shatty if Krejci agrees to waive.

 

[riverhawkey91]

I've had my ups and downs about Krejci. Great player, but he is 30 and signed for good term and a thick cap hit. Will he be worth the 7.25M in 3-4 years? He doesn't rely a ton of speed or physicality, uses his hockey sense mostly so I'd like to think he could at least be salvageable.

I do think the saved money from Krejci allows Boston to resign Shattenkirk and I think he'd resign there.

What I don't like about this is the Krug/Bouwmeester swap. I like Krug and he is much better in the offensive zone than Bouwmeester but Bouwmeester is still a fine defensive defenseman and that's more of a need. I'd take this part of the deal out.

We don't need Morrow, both Lindbohm and/or Schmaltz could fill Shattenkirk shoes. At least from a roster spot standpoint but maybe a little different role.

What complicates the deal is the Berglund part. I don't think the organization will deal Berglund and for good reason. He is a strong two way player, who plays with a lot of structure. Also, I don't think we could afford to take Krejci, unless Lehtera is moved. With Fabbri and Parayko due for significant raises, we need cap space to keep them around. Apparently Boston was willing to take him last deadline, but the deal fell through. I'm not sure how the fans like that, but Lehtera isn't a bad 3C.

Also, Krejci has a NMC and starting a family. Doubt he waives.

I believe it was actually the opposite; I think the Blues trying to get Boston to take Lehtera to balance cap is where it fell through.

Given how the deal has changed, I have no idea if they'd be more open to taking him on now. The original deal (if memory serves) was basically a rental Eriksson + 29th overall for 1.25 years of Shattenkirk. Switching out Boston's entire side for Krejci might make them more open to taking a center back, but at the same time, Krejci holds more value than Eriksson + 29th and Shattenkirk is now only valued as a rental, so there would have to be a big addition on the Blues side to balance that out now (since Boston probably still won't view Lehtera as value added).