GDT: #52 ⋅ MTL @ ANA ⋅ 1:00 PM PST

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After two periods...

Special teams: Montreal = 2 goals
Even Strength: Ducks = 2 goals

I won't blame Cronin for Special teams. That's why Verbeek hired Clune (PP) and Thompson (PK) so that Cronin can focus on ES. We're still an inconsistent team at ES, but Dostal (and Gibby) have been great to not let the games get out of hand more often than not.

First to three goals win! C'mon, Ducks, get to three first and our chances with a win skyrocket.
 
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The 4 players I mentioned (Perreault/Tracey/Gaucher/Myatovic) were all top 34 picks and all look like complete busts.

That’s objectively bad drafting to not get 1 roster player out of those 4 which looks possible at this juncture

If Pastujov or Sidorov don’t pan out it’s not bad drafting.

That’s my point. We’re now relying on the 3rd/4th rounders to pull off a miracle and pan out because we went 0/4 on the late 1sts we acquired

The 4 players I mentioned (Perreault/Tracey/Gaucher/Myatovic) were all top 34 picks and all look like complete busts.

That’s objectively bad drafting to not get 1 roster player out of those 4 which looks possible at this juncture

If Pastujov or Sidorov don’t pan out it’s not bad drafting.

That’s my point. We’re now relying on the 3rd/4th rounders to pull off a miracle and pan out because we went 0/4 on the late 1sts we acquired

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I guess. To me the lower you go past top ten the more you're kind of crap shooting it. Kids in the 20-35 range may be better than most of the 240 or so selected but their potential to reach regular NHL roster player is still far more questionable than guys taken top 15. To me it's a distinction where all these kids you mentioned not panning out is just not good drafting but I don't know that it's bad drafting. They didn't have what it took to continue progressing once they got to the AHL level. Happens with kids picked in that range all the time. Getting useful players in that range is more of a win than an expectation. I guess that's the best way I can frame it. There's always like 2-8 or so kids in the second round who end up NHL regulars and can be very good ones at that, but it's not like there's teams out there that consistently hit on those players. It happens that they pan out every now and then for just about everyone. A lot needs to go right in development.
 
Tale of Two Periods

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The Shot metric was worst after the 1st period. It was all Habs. The High Danger Shots was Habs 6 and Ducks 0 after the 1st period. Now, the Ducks fought back.

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The 4 players I mentioned (Perreault/Tracey/Gaucher/Myatovic) were all top 34 picks and all look like complete busts.

That’s objectively bad drafting to not get 1 roster player out of those 4 which looks possible at this juncture

If Pastujov or Sidorov don’t pan out it’s not bad drafting.

That’s my point. We’re now relying on the 3rd/4th rounders to pull off a miracle and pan out because we went 0/4 on the late 1sts we acquired

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Conveniently leaving off of top 40 picks in that same timeframe.

LaCombe / Colangelo / Zelly / plus still solberg and Pettersson.
 
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I guess. To me the lower you go past top ten the more you're kind of crap shooting it. Kids in the 20-35 range may be better than most of the 240 or so selected but their potential to reach regular NHL roster player is still far more questionable than guys taken top 15. To me it's a distinction where all these kids you mentioned not panning out is just not good drafting but I don't know that it's bad drafting. They didn't have what it took to continue progressing once they got to the AHL level. Happens with kids picked in that range all the time. Getting useful players in that range is more of a win than an expectation.
What, in your opinion, should be the success rate (I.e.: a capable roster player) when drafting in the 20-35 range? 25%? 30%? 40%?

The answer is certainly not 0%, so therefore going 0/4 is by definition ‘bad’

Agree to disagree here

Conveniently leaving off of top 40 picks in that same timeframe.

LaCombe / Colangelo / Zelly / plus still solberg and Pettersson.
Half of those guys haven’t even panned out yet and my point was about forward depth, so I didn’t leave them out at all
 
We need a guy that can just sit by the goal and cash in reboundss.
Aren’t gaucher and Myatovic supposedly net front dudes on the PP ?


 
What, in your opinion, should be the success rate (I.e.: a capable roster player) when drafting in the 20-35 range? 25%? 30%? 40%?

The answer is certainly not 0%, so therefore going 0/4 is by definition ‘bad’

Agree to disagree here


Half of those guys haven’t even panned out yet and my point was about forward depth, so I didn’t leave them out at all
Ahhh forward depth makes sense.

I’m a Myatovic truther, and still believe gaucher will be a solid NHL player.
 
After two periods...t how

Special teams: Montreal = 2 goals
Even Strength: Ducks = 2 goals

I won't blame Cronin for Special teams. That's why Verbeek hired Clune (PP) and Thompson (PK) so that Cronin can focus on ES. We're still an inconsistent team at ES, but Dostal (and Gibby) have been great to not let the games get out of hand more often than not.

First to three goals win! C'mon, Ducks, get to three first and our chances with a win skyrocket.
Ya 5 v 5 play has been pretty close (without looking id say favoring ducks slightly)..... but man were never going to go back to being a good team if we cant start winning the special teams battles.

31st on PP (12.9%)- League average is 21.4, so 8+% under league average
27th on PK (74.1%) - league average is 78.6, so 4.5% under league average

aint going to do much for us... take into account how many 1 goal games(pre empty net) and your looking at the difference of being a playoff team and not being a playoff team.
 

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