GDT: #48 | Red Wings at Flyers | Tuesday, January 21, 2025 | 7:00 PM | NBCSP, 93.3 FM

[Hollywood Cannon]

“b/c it's hard to rack up points if your linemates can't finish and can't pass to you.”

Hmm… feel like I’ve heard that argument dismissed before with regards to younger players falling with the Flyers but who am I?

 

[deadhead]

“b/c it's hard to rack up points if your linemates can't finish and can't pass to you.”

Hmm… feel like I’ve heard that argument dismissed before with regards to younger players falling with the Flyers but who am I?

You mean when people claimed Frost was failing b/c he didn't get good linemates then it turned out his minutes were mostly with TK, Tippett, Farabee, Atkinson, the best scoring wings on the team?

 

[Boocowski]

Why do you think people don't like John or the direction of the Flyers? Care to enumerate us with some facts or you just going continue to ignore all of that?

Read a lot of posts here from the time he was hired onwards. They are here I'm sure you've seen them.

He was supposed to be a dynamic offensive dman when the Sabres drafted him, and he's now a safe stay at home bottom pairing dman with almost zero offence to his game. The Flyers made him into a useful player, but also the exact opposite of what he was supposed to be back when he was a prospect.

I think because of his size he was supposed to be a complete D man both offensive and defensive. The offensive side is coming back out now imo. Now that he has relearned the defensive side, which is what was not developed properly in Buffalo.

You can see Buffalo doing the exact same thing with Owen Power. His offensive side is fine, but his D is atrocious.

 

[Boocowski]

Other than MIchkov, there isn't much to build off of here. Nothing that is happening under Tortorella or that happened last night is going to be a part of this team getting anywhere. Everything that is happening now is just delaying any chance they have. Playing for each other, culture is all nonsense.


Its the same thing as when Snider mandated Holmgren to fix the goaltending. He didn't tell him to sign Bryzgalov

No it isn't nonsense. It's essential.

 

[MJL66]

No it isn't nonsense. It's essential.

What's essential is building a team with elite talent with the right mix of players, with quality players development an coaching behind it. Everything else is just buzzwords and selling points that some Flyers fans have been brainwashed by.

 

[Beef Invictus]

No it isn't nonsense. It's essential.

So everyone managing the team should probably be fired since they're so horrible at building it, right? We've been trying to fix the culture for 12 straight years and the team keeps trending down while needing culture resets every year, and being so hamstrung by culture concerns that they can't make any moves to get better.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

You mean when people claimed Frost was failing b/c he didn't get good linemates then it turned out his minutes were mostly with TK, Tippett, Farabee, Atkinson, the best scoring wings on the team?

In that conversation you claimed that Frost had the best linemates of anyone on the team while you yourself directly contradicted your statement by posting the numbers which showed he did not and even then you still carried on.

I mean when these “kids” get called up and get stuck with the Deslauriers, VandeVelde, and Stewart’s of the world and get criticized for not scoring at any rate. They were dead on arrival but hey we’ve been told this is fine and good management and player development and none of it actually matters because it wouldn’t make this team a Cup Contender.

 

[CerpinTaxt]

Read a lot of posts here from the time he was hired onwards. They are here I'm sure you've seen them.


I think because of his size he was supposed to be a complete D man both offensive and defensive. The offensive side is coming back out now imo. Now that he has relearned the defensive side, which is what was not developed properly in Buffalo.

You can see Buffalo doing the exact same thing with Owen Power. His offensive side is fine, but his D is atrocious.

Have you read them? Cause it sure doesn't seem like with your lack of comprehension