GDT: #44| Sens @ Pens| Sat, Jan 11 @4:00 PM |SN-PITT, ESPN+ |PPG| Jagoff Bobble head night...."No REMORSE"

[Gurglesons]

Guess we know where Jarry gets it.

 

[Darren McCord]

Moved off Tanev and McCann who are total losers in Seattle and brought in Heinen and re-signed Rodrigues. Good work tbh.

Lol no it wasn't.

Pens went from 2nd in goals for to 11th.
From 5th in the league to 12th

Then the next offseason he "revamped" the defense
The Pens went from 5th in GA to 19th

His first offseason he tanked the offense.
His second offseason he tanked the defense.

Dubas sucks. Hextall was just as bad. Don't understand why you defend him.

 

[Ryder71]

Kyle is essentially letting this team hang itself. There isn't gonna be a calvary coming here. He'll let them stumble along make incremental adds but ultimately sell off before the trade deadline.

 

[Gurglesons]

There is a path, and he's stated as much four or five times this season. It's quite clear what the path is. You just don't want to accept it.

There is no path. Honestly can’t wait for you to realize it in 5 years when we have a bunch of 30 pt 23 year old NHLers Dubas gave away our major assets for.

Kyle is essentially letting this team hang itself. There isn't gonna be a calvary coming here. He'll let them stumble along make incremental adds but ultimately sell off before the trade deadline.

Sell off what?

 

[Ryder71]

There is no path. Honestly can’t wait for you to realize it in 5 years when we have a bunch of 30 pt 23 year old NHLers Dubas gave away our major assets for.



Sell off what?

Petts, maybe DOC possibly a couple others.

 

[Gurglesons]

Lol no it wasn't.

Pens went from 2nd in goals for to 11th.
From 5th in the league to 12th

Then the next offseason he "revamped" the defense
The Pens went from 5th in GA to 19th

His first offseason he tanked the offense.
His second offseason he tanked the defense.

Dubas sucks. Hextall was just as bad. Don't understand why you defend him.

Very different to compare the COVID year with a full 82 especially with the aged roster, but keep white knighting McCann and Tanev.

 

[Ryder71]

There is no path. Honestly can’t wait for you to realize it in 5 years when we have a bunch of 30 pt 23 year old NHLers Dubas gave away our major assets for.

Of course there is a path, again you're just ignoring it because you hold out hope for something that won't happen.

Tell me, how has the current path worked out the past six years?

 

[Gurglesons]

Petts, maybe DOC possibly a couple others.

Man can’t wait for the rebuild to continue to amass 2nd and 4th round picks.

Of course there is a path, again you're just ignoring it because you hold out hope for something that won't happen.

Tell me, how has the current path worked out the past six years?

As long as Mike Sullivan is here there is no path.

There is no development path for any young player in PIT with him as our coach.

 

[Darren McCord]

Very different to compare the COVID year with a full 82 especially with the aged roster, but keep white knighting McCann and Tanev.

Dude its not just McCann and Tanev. It was Petry and Rutta and Granlund who were all awful for this team.

He went with old players instead of youth. He went with Carter his BFF instead of trading slightly more to get Bennett. Went with Granlund instead of trading slightly more to get Chychrun.

Dude blew chunks just as bad as Dubas.

Dubas is a fraud to who is afraid to fire the coach and actually do his job.

 

[Ryder71]

Man can’t wait for the rebuild to continue to amass 2nd and 4th round picks.



As long as Mike Sullivan is here there is no path.

There is no development path for any young player in PIT with him as our coach.

Boy are you shortsighted, listen holmes by the time this team is any good again Sullivan won't be here.

I can't wait for moar picks either, why?

CROSBY hasn't won a playoff series since he was 30!!!!

So try a different way! Because with THIS core it hasn't worked in a long time!

 

[Ulf5]

I’ve never left a regular season game early but I did this time.

My last three games, 2-0 L to Carolina, 2-0 L to Rangers, 5-0 L Sens.

I’ve probably spent close to $3,000 during those games but this is the last ay one I’m going to in a long time. If they want to suck that’s fine but they need to lower the price of tickets then.

Resell tix shouldn't be that much in this day and age. Course they'll be a bit higher for a Jags bobblehead.

 

[Gurglesons]

Dude its not just McCann and Tanev. It was Petry and Rutta and Granlund who were all awful for this team.

He went with old players instead of youth. He went with Carter his BFF instead of trading slightly more to get Bennett. Went with Granlund instead of trading slightly more to get Chychrun.

Dude blew chunks just as bad as Dubas.

Dubas is a fraud to who is afraid to fire the coach and actually do his job.

We had our 1st every year Hextall was here.

We largely bounced out our picks for the future while being a more competitive team.

Pick situation is bad under Dubas, competitiveness is bad under Dubas, future is about the same under Dubas.

Team was better set for the future and the now under Dubas and didn’t have anchor contracts like Graves and Jarry.

 

[Ryder71]

Pick situation is bad under Dubas,

You could not be more wrong.

 

[Gurglesons]

Boy are you shortsighted, listen holmes by the time this team is any good again Sullivan won't be here.

I can't wait for moar picks either, why?

CROSBY hasn't won a playoff series since he was 30!!!!

So try a different way! Because with THIS core it hasn't worked in a long time!

You become successful in a rebuild by amassing 1sts.

Dubas has given 1sts away and attempted to bring in win now prospect. He lost more 1st round picks than he acquired since becoming a GM. He has no current players he is going to get a 1st for on the roster.

If you think Dubas is trying to do a tear it down rebuild you honestly aren’t following his moves or comments.

 

[Darren McCord]

We had our 1st every year Hextall was here.

We largely bounced out our picks for the future while being a more competitive team.

Thats the point. He kept the first that were 15 - 20 overall but never made the team actually more competitive. He was the most risk adverse GM ever.

Dude wouldn't pull the trigger on a big deal because he wanted to stay in the mushy middle forever.

Trade the first for Miller over a 2nd for Granlund. Do something risky. You use the Caps as an example to knock Dubas. Hextall is the same if not worse when it comes to just low risk low reward moves.

 

[Ryder71]

You become successful in a rebuild by amassing 1sts.

Dubas has given 1sts away and attempted to bring in win now prospect. He lost more 1st round picks than he acquired since becoming a GM. He has no current players he is going to get a 1st for on the roster.

If you think Dubas is trying to do a tear it down rebuild you honestly aren’t following his moves.

He gave away ONE first for EK. At the time it made sense, then this team soiled the bed so he changed course.

He won't be doing that again. It all comes down to drafting well and development.

 

[Gurglesons]

You could not be more wrong.

Dubas gave away a 1st and a 2nd and has since acquired an extra 2nd and a bunch of 3rds.

It’s honestly hilarious how dumb Penguins fans are thinking he’s doing anything right now to “set us up for the future”.

 

[Darren McCord]

You become successful in a rebuild by amassing 1sts.

Dubas has given 1sts away and attempted to bring in win now prospect. He lost more 1st round picks than he acquired since becoming a GM. He has no current players he is going to get a 1st for on the roster.

If you think Dubas is trying to do a tear it down rebuild you honestly aren’t following his moves or comments.

He lost 1 first and you act like it was 5.

Again I agree he sucks though.

 

[Gurglesons]

Thats the point. He kept the first that were 15 - 20 overall but never made the team actually more competitive. He was the most risk adverse GM ever.

Dude wouldn't pull the trigger on a big deal because he wanted to stay in the mushy middle forever.

Trade the first for Miller over a 2nd for Granlund. Do something risky. You use the Caps as an example to knock Dubas. Hextall is the same if not worse when it comes to just low risk low reward moves.

But that is my point. Hextall didn’t want to be competitive. He was trying to keep the status quo while “building up assets”. Broz, Pickering, Murashov. His short time here brought in a majority of our prospects that actually look like they could be NHL talent.

He lost 1 first and you act like it was 5

He lost a first that was traded up for what is looking like a top pairing defenseman.

He lost out on a first for Guentzel.

Imagine what the future looks like if we have Yager, Dickinson an additional 1st and were floundering this year and selling off Petry, Granlund and retaining.

It’s pretty easy to see the issues here with what Dubas is doing.

 

[Hank Plank]

This will be the final straw. Right?

 

[eXile3]

I at least liked watching the X gen teams. This is like watching my dog die of old age. I can’t figure out why I keep watching.

 

[Darren McCord]

But that is my point. Hextall didn’t want to be competitive. He was trying to keep the status quo while “building up assets”. Broz, Pickering, Murashov. His short time here brought in a majority of our prospects that actually look like they could be NHL talent.

And Dubas brought in McGroaty, Koivenen,
Ilyin, pieniniemi and Brunicke. I’m also interested in Howe and Harding from the last draft.

Let’s not pretend like hextall was building some super star prospect lineup.

“He was trying to keep the status quo“

This is literally the worst thing a GM can do and the reason people complain about Dubas.

 

[Pancakes]

I at least liked watching the X gen teams. This is like watching my dog die of old age. I can’t figure out why I keep watching.

They do just enough to give hope but then they quickly remind you who they are

 

[Ryder71]

This will be the final straw. Right?

They need to be humbled a bit more. I have faith they will be though.

They do just enough to give hope but then they quickly remind you who they are

Dubas is letting them hang themselves, and then he'll sell off.

 

[Darren McCord]

Imagine what the future looks like if we have Yager, Dickinson an additional 1st and were floundering this year and selling off Petry, Granlund and retaining.

Also imagine what the future looks like if you trade Rust and Zucker for picks and prospects to rebuild in the fly like the caps instead of bringing in more 30 year olds every chance you get.

Ughh these GMs make me miss old Jimmy and he’s wild antics.