GDT: #43 - 01/13/18 | islanders @ RANGERS | 1:00 - MSG

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You actually think Steve ****ing Kampfer is a top pair dman?


I don’t see how that’s what you’re getting from this conversation. Saying Shattenkirk isn’t a top pairing D doesn’t mean whoever AV plugs across from McD is. It means we don’t have that player on our roster. McD was a #1/2. When he’s on he’s still a top pair guy. When he struggles, less so. Skjei has potential but lacks consistency and is going to have growing pains. Shattenkirk is a 3/4 top PP guy. Everyone else is a 5/6/7 and that’s what we have on D. We don’t have a true #1 and when McD is off, we don’t have a top pair caliber player.
 
I’m not on the sell train, but I certainly would be okay with dumping Shattenkirk for a pick.

Guy is becoming Wade Redden.
and whats sad is it was known Wade Redden wasn't gonna be the right before sather gave him the huge horrible contract. We heard all the rumblings about him from ottawa. Shatty on the other hand, dreamed about playing here.
 
I'm just going to forget all about this game the team should as well thank God we're right back at it tomorrow
 
How about we just make the easier switch to a zone d instead of cleaning house? If they all still suck at d in a zone system then clean house.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that most d seem to play better after leaving or seem to get worse once all of their old tendacies are beaten out of them and they truly try and play AVs d.
 
Any chance Hank gets pissed if enough at the lack of effort and coaching that demands a trade so he can win a cup? We could bring in quite the haul. Poor guys not winning here. He deserves a shot.
 
This quote that you are all defending implies that playing Shattenkirk over Kampfer or Holden is “absolute craziness”
Some are even arguing that he needs to be on the top pairing with McD.
It's absolute craziness lol

How is that not implying that those two are better than Shattenkirk?
 
At least Shatty doesn't have an albatross horrific contract for 8 years. In this day and age, another 3 years at that cap hit with a rising cap, is a very moveable contract. I'd be surprised if he even finished out the contract here.
That is the silver lining. I didn't want Shattenkirk here but for three more years or less, I can deal with it.
 
Wow today is not our day. I wonder if some of our guys may be sick. Their faces did not look right even to start the game.
 
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No one is talking about it but miller and Zucc have been horrible now for weeks. Everyone giving shattenkirk shit is oblivious to skjei being very bad the last month. So has mac btw
 
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Steven Kampfer is on our #1 pairing. What? How does this happen?

Well, you see, looking at this lineup, and through out analysis we do, I just think that the way this looks is if I were a betting man, *chuckles*, I think we need some grit and some strength along the walls, on the ice, and in our lineup tonight, and someone that we know what we can expect everything from tonight so that's why we're moving some players around even though I thought Smitty played real well but I think we need a bit of a different look tonight on the right side so the coaches and I have talked and we think that Steven can step in here and give us some real good minutes by my estimation and we're going to put Marc and Nick together as a pairing because we have a real scientific look at this and felt they had some real chemistry together so that's what we're doing tonight so we're putting Steve with Mac for some minutes but I like to think of it as *chuckle* Steven stepping up for us at a real important time *chuckle*, we played well last game and had some real good looks and I think with a few changes, to our lineup, we're a better team for it.
 
Very true if this team is within 3-5 points of a playoff spot come the feb deadline than there is no way the Garden Management will waive the while flag and clean house entirely. Business first

That is the damn infuriating part of this. Dolan should notice if the Yankees can get away with and do that, then so should we. Plus with the amazing access we have to this team and the front office, well probably never know truly how JG feels about the team. I believe he has the guts and actually wants to go the route that many on here want. As we have both said, Dolan isn't gonna let that happen. Apparently playing in 2-3 home playoff games this year actually will make them more money in the long run smh.
 
Any chance Hank gets pissed if enough at the lack of effort and coaching that demands a trade so he can win a cup? We could bring in quite the haul. Poor guys not winning here. He deserves a shot.

He’s never requesting a trade and is staying in New York. He’s said it a million times. He either wins it here, or doesn’t win it at all.
 
I guess we are truly stuck with DD in the lineup.
There is no one with balls to put someone on the ice. No hitting nothing. just clean thru the ice. I would rather have Tanner Glass on this team than DD
 
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